Talk:Classe préparatoire aux grandes écoles

Untitled
This article is only about scientific classes préparatoires. There are also litterary ones, medical/veterinary, etc.Hektor 21:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Grandes Écoles Merger
In an articel about French higher education, a summary on Grandes Écoles is certainly warranted on its on merit. Rotovia (talk) 00:56, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Restructuring this page
Hi all,

As a former student in CPGE, I was interested in how the CPGE are detailed in the English speaking world. Since I am new to Wikipedia as an author, I'll try to modifiy as well as I can, so any feedback is welcome !

My modifications
The "Life in a CPGE" contains too much information and not all of it actually really relates to CPGE life. Therefore I added a new section "Organization", mainly based on the work done for the French article, and move in some information from the "life" section. I also tried to distinguish the information that is specific to a kind of CPGE to those who apply to all of them.

I also added some minor corrections :

1. added " commonly called classes prépas or prépas," : most of the French refers to CPGE as "Classes préparatoires", "Classes prépas" or simply "Prépas"

2. removed "mostly in the scientific sections" : the repeating of the 2nd year is maybe more frequent in humanities CPGE than scientific ones.

3. added some statistics about the demography of students in a year (source : Ecole Polytechnique webpage)

4. removed " A known joke among those students is that they are becoming monks for two years. Sometimes three.". Need to replace it further by a better explanation of "taupe"

Proposition of future work
1. Next thing that may be interestiong to do is to add a "History" and "Place in higer education" (or "CPGE, University and Globalization") to give the reader a better understanding of why the CPGE exist in their form today as a unique education system, and how they may face new challenges.

2. We may also add a specific section about all the folks and nicknames found in CPGE.

My questions
Is the section about "Recruitement of teachers" really relevant, especially compared to the level of description in other sections ? Maybe we should add it later, when the page will contain more information ? ChoLeChu (talk) 03:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Some deletions on 03-31-2012
Hi, I am a contributor on fr.wiki. I deleted today some remarks which were not supported by any reference in the introduction and in the main course of the article. English readers have to know that the french system of CPGE is a controversial one, usually described as "bourgeois" by sociologists like Pierre Bourdieu. But it has widely evolved for some decades, and the material I deleted is objectively very outdated. The discussion on the criticism about CPGE, and on the remarks I deleted, is interesting and should be done in this article. I am sorry that I can't take part due to my very poor level in english. And I apologize for all the barbarisms in the few lines above. Gouffy (talk) 19:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

"workload is one of the highest in the world"
The above statement seems to be written by a student from the French classes préparatoires, which is embarrassingly naive and ignorant. There are several academic and professional education programs around the world that are comparable to or higher than these so-called classes préparatoires in terms of intensity and difficulty. "...between 29 and 45 contact hours a week, plus usually between 4 and 6 hours of written exams, plus between 2 and 4 hours of oral exams a week and homework filling all the remaining free time" is not unique to classes préparatoires - for example, high school students in China often deal with longer work hours both in and out of class. Indigoplummet (talk) 04:05, 7 November 2018 (UTC)