Talk:Coastal Athletic Association

School type/religious affiliation
The religious affiliation or designation as "non-sectarian" is not so clear cut. For example, Duke University describes its ties with Methodism as "formal, on-going, and symbolic" while Wake Forest University maintains "a dedication to the values rooted in its Baptist heritage". Both schools can be considered "non-sectarian" in that they are no longer under the direct auspices of their founding religious organizations. Likewise, Boston College maintains its Jesuit identity in spite of the fact that it severed its formal ties with the Jesuit Order (and thereby the Catholic Church) in the 1960s when it was independently incorporated under a lay board of trustees. Unlike the Catholic University of America, which is under the direct auspices of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, or the University of Notre Dame, which is governed by "fellows" who must be priests of the Congregation of Holy Cross, The Trustees of Boston College (BC's governing body) operate independent of any religious jurisdiction. This arrangement is probably similar to that at Duke or Wake Forest, except that the BC trustees have voluntarily chosen to elect members of the founding religious organization to the presidency (though they are not required to do so). In fact, similar arrangements exist at other Jesuit colleges and universities, where both women and non-clerics have been elected to presidency (most recently at Georgetown University). All of this is to say that I think the nature of a school's religious affiliation is beyond the scope of this article, and that "public" or "private" suffice in the context of the members table. --24.63.125.78 10:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * 24.63.125.78 has coppied and pasted this on almost every college conference discussion board. Please refer to Talk:Atlantic Coast Conference so we can keep all the discussion in one place.  Thanks. -- Masonpatriot

Thanks to whomever has contributed to this entry! It contained all the information I was looking for and more. A great job. -- Sometimes 16:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Logos
There is a discussion to clarify our policy/guideline on the use of sports team logos. Please see Wikipedia_talk:Logos if you wish to participate in the discussion. Johntex\talk 16:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

National Map of CAA
The map highlighting where different schools are located contains an error - NJ should not be highlighted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.46.49.99 (talk) 02:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

There's another error I just found. Virginia is highlighted but the portion of the state on the Delmarva peninsula is not highlighted. I dont know how to fix this, can someone do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:445:437F:3A40:E4DE:AEC3:72D7:C968 (talk) 04:49, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Pinging you since you created File:Colonial Athletic Association Map.svg and File:CAA Football Map.jpg. GoingBatty (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

March 2008 redo?
Is there a re-do underway? Seems like it's halfway done as of now. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Stop adding "University" to VA Commonwealth
Some idiot keeps typing in "university" next to Virginia Commonwealth. All of these schools are universities, it goes without saying. Why would you add university to VA Commonwealth and not the others? It looks unparallel and stupid. I'm the one who created the championship games table and I do not want "university" written on there. Whoever it is, KNOCK IT OFF! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deconomou (talk • contribs) 16:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Georgia State/Georgia Dome
The capacity of the Georgia Dome is 70,000. The capacity doesn't change because of the availability of tickets. The building doesn't shrink because you only offer 20,000. Ever go into a club, theater, or restuarant and there is a sign somewhere in the building from the fire marshal announcing the capacity? It never changes, regardless of if you allow them all in or only sell half the tickets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.226.51 (talk) 20:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed Split of Men's Tourney
AGAINST If anything, the women's tourney should be moved to this site. The CAA is not a big conference and it makes no sense to have a different page for each sport. All sports should be on the one page.

Agreed. I added it. For some reason the tables do not look correct. Strange.

Men's Basketball - Regular Season Champs - Tournament Champs
I think we should eliminate the Tournament Champs column next to the Regular Season Champs because it is already displayed below in the History of the Tournament Finals. Why have it there twice?

Men's and Women's Basketball has been updated
You're welcome.

Why the parenthetical reference to men's basketball
in the table for George Mason and ODU? I don't want to remove it if it means something, but I'm not catching the meaning.Sphilbrick (talk) 17:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Glad I'm not the only one who's wondered this. I think it was just someone's misguided attempt to direct people to the men's basketball pages for these teams. I'm going to remove it and if someone comes up with a good reason why it's there and why only for 2 of the 12, it can be added back. Superman7515 (talk) 18:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Membership timeline graph help
I made the membership history timeline, but as you can see, it says "Invalid image map generated by EasyTimeline". I'm not sure what to do to fix it -- I've checked and re-checked the entire coding and have no idea what to do. If someone with more knowledge and know-how of EasyTimeline could help I'd be very grateful. Thanks. Jrcla2 talk 07:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, got it. Jrcla2 talk 21:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Conference Alignment
Has anyone heard/read anything about the conferences being realigned? I haven't found anything but the South Division will obviously be overloaded 8-6 once Old Dominion and Georgia State begin play. The northern most team in the South Division is Villanova, but they have a long running rivalry with Delaware, the second most northern team in the South, and they have a long standing deal that they play the final game with each other every year. Doubt they'd want to give that up. So the next would be Towson. Anything? Superman7515 (talk)
 * I haven't heard anything official, but my guess is that Delaware will move to the North Division. They'll probably still schedule Villanova every season, but that will limit their non-conference schedule by one game. It's an awkward situation, but I'm pretty sure that's what the CAA will end up doing. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Georgia State will be in North Division
There was an article stating that Georgia State football will be moved to the North Division. The CAA said that they're the new team and don't fit in, so that's where they have to play. The reason behind this is that Georgia State was admitted in 2005 without the knowledge they wanted to play football and the league is basically stuck with them and the fact that every home game against Georgia State will require a team to charter a flight to Atlanta at a CAA predicted cost of $60k-$80k depending on the team. It also messes with the scheduling because the league will allow the GSU to play a modified CAA schedule - four games against each division. The remainder of the league will begin playing a five-and-three mix on a rotating basis in 2012. What this eventually means is that there will come a point when a school like ODU will find itself in a two-year loop playing a schedule without one of its natural rivals - William and Mary, for example - because it's forced to make room for Georgia State. An interesting part of the article states that to solve this the CAA is actually looking into adding 2 more teams, Fordham and Stony Brook in NY. Fordham has announced it will start giving scholarships for football, which is not allowed in the Patriot League where they currently are, and they may be forced out for breaking the conference by-laws/regulations. Stony Brook is playing in the Big South and has said it is a financial problem for them due to travel costs. The conference alignment would then be divided by New York City. Fordham and Stony Brook along with Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Northeastern, Maine, New Hampshire and Hofstra in the North Division. The CAA South with James Madison, Richmond, William and Mary, Old Dominion, Towson, Villanova, Delaware and Georgia State. The league isn't concerned with the playoff implications because they're already sending 5 teams to the 16 team playoff and with the playoff expanding to 20 games, by the time Georgia State gets there in 2012, it shouldn't matter and they'll be able to send 6-7 teams to the 20. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Teams reportedly leaving CAA?
In this edit, it claims that URI is reportedly leaving the CAA. Other articles have rumors that various teams are considering moving to an FBS conference. My feeling is that only official statements about teams leaving/joining the conference should be included in this article, not rumors. However, I don't know enough about the URI situation to feel comfortable reverting it. What do others think? GoingBatty (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

2010–11 Colonial Athletic Association men's basketball season
There are three NCAA contestants and no 2010–11 Colonial Athletic Association men's basketball season article. Please consider creating one.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Delaware Stadium Capacity
Delaware Stadium recently underwent a minor renovation which included adding handrails for ADA compliance. This reportedly reduced the seating to around 21,000 from the 22,000 listed, however, I'm unable to find a definitive number if anyone can find a reference. Superman7515 (talk) 04:11, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Change name of History of Tournament finals section
I think we should change the name of the History of Tournament Finals to Tournament Finals Results. --InformationContributor11 (talk) 19:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to make timelines more consistent
I noticed that conferences in List of NCAA conferences have articles, usually including a membership timeline. While some of the decisions made for each conference make some sense, there is a wide variety of styles for the various timelines, particularly involving color choices, but also other matters of style that could be more consistent.

for example, a school with a yellow bar means:
 * An associate member in one sport (if part of the BE)
 * A former member of the conference (in the SEC)
 * A future member of the conference (in the SEC and Big West)
 * A football only member (in the Sun Belt)
 * A team that has moved to another conference (in the WAC, NEC)
 * A full member of the Big Sky

Some graphs have captions, some do not, and none are centered. To see the variety of styles, review Current conference timelines

I think it would be worth discussing how best to provide some measure of consistency, recognizing that there may be legitimate reasons for some differences from a standard presentation (for example, some conferences show the name of the new conference for former members. In some cases, this makes sense, in other, it may not.)

I've produced a draft of how the timelines would look with some consistency added. Please see Draft proposal of conference timelines.

I propose a discussion to see if there is consensus on improving the consistency.

Because it would not be practical to have this discussion on each and every conference talk page, I suggest centralizing this discussion at the Talk page of Project College football SPhilbrick  (Talk)  01:39, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Standardize facility sections
See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College baseball.

Discussion about overview maps for US collegiate athletic conferences
A discussion on the Project College Football talk page has been created to discuss the proper format of the overview maps that are used for the US collegiate athletic conference pages.

If you're interested, please join the discussion here: Athletic conference overview maps and their lack of consistency. Mdak06 (talk) 23:50, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Football Associates
There are no football associates in the CAA. The CAA all sports conference is separate from CAA Football, they have separate by laws and are incorporated separately. Here is a link to the CAA by-laws... Colonial Athletic Association By-Laws See section 4.03 when it talks about sports where championships are conducted, that says "[NOTE: Football competes as a separate corporate entity]." Also note that the state of Virginia lists two separate non-profit legal entities in Richmond, one as Colonial Athletic Association Football Inc. and the other as Colonial Athletic Association. Finally note that the Colonial Athletic Association and Colonial Athletic Association Football Inc. file separate Form 990's with the IRS, thus the federal government views them as two different corporations. Here is the link to the CAA 990... Colonial Athletic Association - Form 990 And here is a link to the CAA Football 990... Colonial Athletic Association Football - 990. If anything, these two should be split like the Missouri Valley Conference and Missouri Valley Football Conference, but the fact remains that there are no associate members of CAA Football because it is a separate conference. Superman7515 (talk) 14:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention that both Form 990's are from the same year, thus showing that both were filed for the same time period and that both exist and existed as separate incorporations. Superman7515 (talk) 14:50, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info Superman. I see your evidence.  The only problem I see is that the Missouri Valley Football Conference does have a separate website with separate copright, where the Colonial Athletic Association does have the separate 990's, but it looks like it's paper only, because the web site lists football members as associate members.....Mind if I ratchet this up a bit to get some other eyes on this?....Pvmoutside (talk) 18:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I just know that they are separate because when the expansion talks were underway there were newspaper articles saying that the schools commonly referred to as football associates had voting rights on new teams because CAA Football is separate and they are all full members of the football conference. That is why the CAA and CAA Football have separate logos and why when you go to the CAA website, Football is not listed under Championships because CAA does not have a football champion, CAA Football does, so you have to click on CAA Football to get to the championship information, among other minor supporting details. Superman7515 (talk) 18:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Additional information, when going to the CAA website for the conference handbook... CAA Conference Handbook... you will see that all of the sports offered by the conference are listed together in the handbook. For football, it says see below and takes you to the CAA Football Conference Handbook which says in the very beginning: "ARTICLE I NAME 1.01 The name of this organization shall be "Colonial Athletic Association Football" ("CAA Football" or the "Conference"). ARTICLE II MEMBERSHIP 2.01 The members of CAA Football are: University of Delaware, James Madison University, Georgia State University (to begin play in 2012-13), University of Maine, University of Massachusetts (resigning 6/30/12), University of New Hampshire, Old Dominion University, University of Rhode Island (resigning 6/30/13), University of Richmond, Towson University, Villanova University and College of William & Mary." It is very clear that the conference considers them to be separate and that the conference does not see the members of CAA Football as associates. Superman7515 (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional supporting evidence. I've written up something on  Dispute resolution noticeboard.  Feel free to add additional comments there.  The CAA looks like they handle things a little differently than the Missouri Valley Conference.  The CAA looks like they only use the two organizations as separate legal entities according to the evidence you sent here.  The marketing end (including the web site), lists the football only members as associates.  The Missouri Valley looks like they separate both the legal and marketing end.  Be interesting if any collective Wikipedia sports/legal minds  have any input in addition to us.....Pvmoutside (talk) 18:26, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I read your comments at dispute resolution about keeping all the teams on one page. The CAA website does list the football only teams and other single sports teams as associate members.  Other conferences (see Big East, Conference USA, Atlantic 10, MAC, Patriot League) list their associate members on their respective timelines.  The CAA should follow suit.  I'm glad you keep an eye on the CAA Wikipedia page.  Truthfully I spend most of my time on other pages, I do keep an eye here and update occassionally because of my UMass connection. Mind if I change back the page now to add back the football members?.......Pvmoutside (talk) 19:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like the football conference members to be on the timeline as well, but would prefer they were labeled as such and not associates since, as I have provided numerous sources from the CAA's own publications, they are full members of CAA Football which is legally separate. If one of the color coded sections was changed from the Assoc Member football only label to CAA Football members or Football only members or something to that effect, I'm all for it, which I hope you will consider a reasonable compromise. But if there is an insistence about calling them associates members, I whole-heartedly disagree for all the reasons & documentation I have provided. On a side note, I'm a Blue Hens season ticket holder and will miss the trips to McGuirk and will be cheering for UMass to make some noise in the MAC. Superman7515 (talk) 20:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to miss our rivalry too! I graduated from UMass in 1982 and they were one of the few teams I saw when I was in school (1980 I believe).  I caught the Delaware game a couple years ago when you killed us at McGuirk.  You know, I've been hearing rumors of you also heading to the MAC one of these years (the league needs an even number).  Regarding compromise, normally I try to accomodate, the problem is there is not a code set up at any other conference page for "football only members".  Take a look at the CAA web page and scroll to the bottom of the page.  The CAA itself refers to the football only members as associates.  Also, if editors see a category that differs from the other pages (like football member vs. associate), you're probably going to revert a lot since people don't usually like nonconformity.  Trust me, I think we'll be better off with calling the football members as assocites. If you give on this one, I promise I'll compromise with you on something else later........Pvmoutside (talk) 20:43, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you for your work on this article. Besides the great football, UMass was the only CAA team that brought a great band to Delaware Stadium.  Go Hens and go UMass!  GoingBatty (talk) 22:04, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Reluctantly restored. On that same note, shouldn't Richmond be a different color? The football team has been a member since the conference started in 2007, but the women's golf is also a member and has been an associate since 2004. Should it be changed to the Assoc Member (list sports) bar with notations of both football & golf? Superman7515 (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * thanks superman7515 for agreeing to the restore. You are right about Richmond.   They did add womans golf in 2003, so the bar can be changed to an associate member for list sports after 2003. Also, since the CAA didnt have football from 1991 to 2007, Old Dominion can be changed to a full member during that span.....again my bad.......Pvmoutside (talk) 23:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

College basketball team navboxes
Please join discussion at the College Basketball Wikiproject for forming a consensus on the creation of a basic navbox for college basketball teams. CrazyPaco (talk) 06:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Invalid image map generated by EasyTimeline
The timeline in the football section states. This message also appeared on the timeline before today's edits. What are the correct steps to take to fix this issue? Thanks!
 * I've been trying to figure this out myself. I've looked at the timeline several times, leaving and coming back later in case I missed something, and I can't seem to find the error that is causing it.Superman7515 (talk) 18:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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UConn Women's Rowing
I was updating the Big East Conference article regarding UConn's move from the AAC, and saw that they announced last month that their women's rowing team would be joining the CAA. Here's a link if editors want to include this on the membership table/timeline.-- Patrick, o Ѻ ∞ 17:22, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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