Talk:Cologne War

Map
are you going to do the map in layers? If so, perhaps the basic one could just be the boundaries, and the adjoining territories, to give the lay of the land. So we'd need Brabant (Spanish Netherlands), Liege, Limburg, Gelderland, etc, as on the outline map from the book I sent you. The territory of the electorate should show Bonn, Bruehl, the imperial cities of cologne and Neuss, Vest Recklinghausen.Auntieruth55 (talk) 22:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Latest map
Just uploaded the first version of my map. I plan on adding the western-most outline of Westphalia to the map, and probably changing the background color from white to the more-standard cream color. I tried to include every town that is mentioned in the article, but I may have missed a few. I also added other nearby major cities (e.g. Dortmund) to give readers some reference points.

I would like to create a larger geo-political map as well.

What changes would you like to see regarding this map? MapMaster (talk) 17:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * it's a terrific map so far. I think the color changes will enhance it. Limz am Rhein is spelled wrong (it's Linz).  Probably Rhein ought to be in English: Rhine.  Eventually need to place Nijmegen on the map too, and Rheinberg.  Those were the last battles.  When you do the geopolitical map, it will have the other states on it?  Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * looking at it again. As I read the description of the electorate, Werl is part of the County of Westphalia. You're showing it as separate.  ??  I realize that old map is difficult.  Auntieruth55 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded a new map, adding the cream-coloured background as well as the outline of the western edge of Westphalia and Nijmegen. I would like to keep the river spelled Rhein since there are two other placenames spelled Rhein: Rheinberg and Linz am Rhein.
 * Regarding Westphalia, I understand that although it was a fief of the Elector, it was not part of the Electorate. For example, no maps of the Electorate show Westphalia.
 * As you may have noticed, I ensured that Cologne was not shown as part of the Electorate.
 * How's that?? MapMaster (talk) 12:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I did notice that, but perhaps the city could be a different color, so it's clearer that it is not part of the electorate? As for the fief, perhaps it could be outlined, but not colored  the same way?  Auntieruth55 (talk) 15:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! Thanks very much.  Auntieruth55 (talk) 18:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

translation credit in Cologne War
This is not in the history, because it wasn't done on the article page. It was done in one of the review pages, and I cut and pasted it into the article, with the translator's permission. Consequently, it should remain sourced to the user, because citations and sourcing takes precedence. Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. So, it's cited now. I mean, it's in the history of the page, just like any other credits and citations. Since it's an accessible thing that is verifiable, there's no reason it can only be translated by one editor. Further, the vpp consensus is very clear on translation credits. I'd suggest it go up to VPP if you disagree. tedder (talk) 05:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Auntieruth55 has reverted (so the translation credit was removed). Here's a followup thread on VPP. I tried to capture some of the threads going on there. tedder (talk) 01:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I had a message from j saying it was okay to remove, so I did. In terms of not following up with you, I did what I said I would do, and what I was asked to do. Did you doubt that I would? Auntieruth55 (talk) 02:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Unclear points
I found the lead unclear. Reading the whole article solved the puzzles, but I think basic points should be in the lead.

The lead says that Gebhard converted and the Catholic faction appointed another archbishop, but this is confusing as no first archbishop has been mentioned. It should be stated that Gebhard was Catholic archbishop as well as prince-elector, and so not allowed to marry, which would explain the significance of his marriage.

Who won the war is a basic point which whould be in the lead and the infobox, but you have to read through to the end of the article to find out that the Catholics won.

Another point is that in 'Gebhard's conversion', second paragraph, it says that rumours of his conversion caused consternation in England and France. Why as they were then protestant? Dudley Miles (talk) 20:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars distinguish tag
The article currently starts with this clarification:
 * This article is about the 16th century conflict. For the series of battles in the Star Wars fictional universe, see Clone Wars (Star Wars).

This is a joke, right? I mean, it is quite funny. It's like the old version of the guano article, which began, "Bat shit redirects here. For information on mental illness, see mental illness."

But, kidding aside, are Star Wars fans looking for info about the Clone Wars really going to wind up on the Cologne War page? It isn't like you'd accidentally type an extra "o" and "g" in the fortuitous spots. Or you'd hear the characters talk about cloning an army and somehow think they said they were "cologne-ing an army".

It seems clear that this tag helps nobody, and wastes a little of each reader's time. I'm going to take it out. If anybody decides it is needed, please add an explanation here. TypoBoy (talk) 02:06, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, it's resolved: while I was writing the long-winded passage above, somebody fixed it. And now I see in the history where it was added, and the tongue-in-cheek check-in comment shows that, yes, it was a joke. And, yes, I'm slow on the uptake. So, as Emily Litella would say, "Never mind." TypoBoy (talk) 02:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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