Talk:Colombian necktie

The link to the lyrics of Big Black's "Colombian Necktie" was incorrect. It's now linked to another site displaying the lyrics. Radiodog 03:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Article notability
Do we really need this article? I think it lacks notability and is trivial. Camilo Sanchez (talk) 08:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Pablo Escobar
This gentleman did not "invent" this method of murder. The authors may want to consider rephrasing this to indicate that he was famous for using this tactic and is associated with it's aforementioned name "Colombian Necktie". While that phrase may originate from Mr. Escobar's use of this procedure, he certainly did not first perform this act.

"reputed"
Is it really necessary to refer to Escobar as a "reputed" drug kingpin? I would think this has been established beyond any reasonable doubt.


 * Agreed. I took it out.  His wikipedia page is all about how he definitely WAS a drug kingpin.  FilmFemme 17:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

the term is used in you tube comedy about the indie rock marketing guru clell tickle
can someone add that in ... the link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD6bI7ziGPk

the term is used in you tube comedy about the indie rock marketing guru clell tickle... can someone add that in ... the link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD6bI7ziGPk


 * ''This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Viacom International Inc.

'' Well that's that. Ball of pain 00:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Why quote the Megadeth song?
Apparently several bands have whole songs about the Colombian Necktie, so why quote a verse from Megadeth rather than any of the others? The verse doesn't seem especially notable, just standard metal lyrics. (In fact, I dare say nothing Megadeth does in 2007 or beyond is ever gonna be considered "notable", snort, chortle, but that's neither here nor there!)

Aside from whether or not to quote, there's also the question of how. That whole grey-box/typewriter-font thing is ugly as fuck, IMO, and I mean for ANY purpose. That thing should just be banished from Wikipedia. --63.25.104.56 21:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * If I can throw in my two cents, I think a quote from a song is valid under a "Popular References" section. I'm not familiar with any lyrics, or I would edit the article myself. I think one quote is sufficient, with mention of a couple of the other song titles in the text. I also think it should be the most notable song or group, whether that's Megadeath or someone else. Boneyard90 (talk) 18:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Picture?
How about a picture of the finished product (Colombian Necktie)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.218.85.175 (talk) 05:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f166/46095d1240336408-throat-slashed-open-columbian-necktie-tongue1.jpg Et voila. Now, who's got the pelotas to up it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.7.234.45 (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Nice job. But we can't upload from a website. That's a violation of copyright. That's why there's not many crime or injury type photos on Wikipedia, which is not censored, but does have to comply with copyright laws.Boneyard90 (talk) 21:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

It's an Urban Legend
The subject of this article is an urban legend based on a wildly mistaken idea of the physiology of the human tongue. We need to make that clear. Please don't assume that the article is argumentative simply because it points out that the phenomenon is mythical. Since it IS fictional, there's no way to have an article about it that doesn't say that.


 * Where is your reliable source that states this is an urban legend? Also, this is NOT about looking at "any anatomy book". I have taken actual anatomy course, and worked on an actual cadaver, so please do not derive conclusions based on drawings, or demand readers do the same. That is Original Research. Also, please sign your comments by typing four tildes. - Boneyard90 (talk) 00:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You seem to be new here, so before you revert the article you should be aware of the WP:3RR rule. You may not revert a page three times in a 24-hour period. - Boneyard90 (talk) 00:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * "El corte corbata" (that's the actual name in Colombian Spanish, meaning the necktie cut) is NOT an urban legend. It was a method of post-mortem mutilation originated during the period of political violence known as La Violencia as a mean of psychological warfare. The cut would be made under the chin (instead of the neck) to extract the whole tongue, similarly to the way a cow's tongue is extracted for culinary purposes. This has been fully documented in multiple researches. The publication below includes multiple references:

http://res.uniandes.edu.co/view.php/638/view.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.198 (talk) 21:42, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but a human tongue cannot be stretched, post mortem, far enough to protrude beneath the chin in the way this article has described for the last year and a half. NONE of the references in the link you cite actually give evidence of the Columbian Necktie. They ALL simply assume that it exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.218.82 (talk) 05:01, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Self-contradictory introduction
Currently the intro says that the Colombian necktie "is" a post-mortem mutilation, then says it is anatomically impossible, then discusses the real-world origin location. I'm not qualified to determine which side is right, but the "legend" side doesn't cite any sources. So I'd be inclined to delete the claim that it's a legend. Miraculouschaos (talk) 03:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Corte franela (t-shirt cut) Corte florero (vase cut) and corte corbata (necktie cut)
These are three different forms of post mortem mutilation used in Colombia during the period known as "La Violencia." In the t-shirt cut, the head and limbs would be cut as to form a t-shirt with the trunk. In the the vase cut, the arms would be introduced were the head used to be, like putting flowers in a vase. The necktie cut is the one described in this article.