Talk:Columbia River Treaty

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Could someone give me some advice on adding pictures to this article? I have a number of great pictures that would significantly improve the presentation, but need some guidance on the process to follow. Thanks.

Depends on where the pictures are from. If they're your own, no problem; if they're from another source, depends on what the source is and the copyright situation attached to it. (post was by User:DAR56, id added by User:Skookum1


 * Here's the code to use to put in a picture:


 * [[Image:xxx.jpg|thumb|300px|right|This is the caption]]
 * Wikipedia formatting prefers PNG and certain other formats; JPGs are common but apparently there's a patent issue like there is/was with GIFs; PNGs are better for certain things like maps, also. Anyway, copy-paste that code into the article, putting in whatever your image filename is in place of "xxx.jpg", and save the page; then on the left below the go-search window you'll see "Upload file"; click on that and follow the directions; the best copyright tag to use (they're in a drawbar on the page that opens up) is the one that says "I created this work and release it into the public domain" - that's if it's your own, though.Skookum1 16:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to edit the first sentence, it needs clarification. The treaty does in fact stipulate the terms of construction and operation of dams in the Upper Columbia basin, but production of the Canadian entitlement occurs in the lower Columbia basin, so it is not accurate to characterize the treaty as involving the upper Columbia basin. I'll kick around some ways to phrase this clearly, and post the edit to the main page in the next couple of days, barring any objections. Comments appreciated. Smithe26 03:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm. I'll have to study up on this, as I haven't examined the treaty in detail; is it in WikiSource or otherwise online? The Canadian treaty dams are clearly in the upper Columbia (Mica, High Arrow, Duncan) and AFAIK are the result of WAC Bennett's insistence on the "Two Rivers Policy" (which meant that the Columbia and Kootenay Rivers would remain separate, rather than one big lake.  I think what you're referring to are the "Downstream Benefits" which he secured during his stonewalling for a better deal for BC (Ottawa was prepared to sell us down the river, quite literally....), but I thought that referred to the production of power from Mica, High Arrow (Keenlyside) and Duncan, but I guess, given your comments, also involve American-side production facilities.  Bennett's vision was that when the treaty "matured" the downstream benefits, meaning a certain reserve of power, could be used to develop advanced industry in BC; the treaty matured during the NDP era of the 1990s and the NDP sold off the benefits rather than used them for development in BC, i.e. the power continued to be sold south instead of being applied to develop an industrial economy in BC (i.e. more than resource sector, which was Bennett's intention); not blaming this on the NDP; the Miniwac Socreds and the current Campbell regime would have done the same; only Gordon Wilson objected.  I'll be back; my library free-time is about to expire and if I don't save this it'll be zipped.  Please cite the relevant passages and if it's not the downstream benefits that you're meaning, please explain further.  Recommend Paddy Sherman's book Bennett, if you can find a copy, which gets into the Socred finagling/stonewalling on the treaty.....Skookum1 15:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Category question
Shouldn't this have the Dams in Canada category? Or not, because it's not about any one dam in particular?Skookum1 17:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum
Please see RE BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum re: Talk:List of United States military history events. If you think maybe I should also move some or copy some of my other stuff from NW history and BC history pages let me know; I never mean to blog, but I'm voluble and to me everything's interconnected; never meaning to dominate a page so have made this area to post my historical rambles on. Thoughts?Skookum1 03:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

HIST 396 Columbia River Team Outline For Proposed Changes
Introduction: Adding basic information such as: What is the river? Where is it? what are the dams? when was the treaty passed?

Background: Looking into the motivations of why BC and the US wanted to sign a treaty.

Treaty Provision: (This one is going to be left as is, but we wanted to add "Canadian Entitlement" into this section)

Implications (previously labeled "Controversy"): Social Impacts: Regionally (effects of relocation/ varying attitudes towards the dams) and Provincially (economic and political impacts) Environmental Impacts: Specifically looking at how the river was altered and ultimately how that changed salmon runs, spawning grounds, and health of the fish.

Cayleym (talk) 03:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)cayleym


 * Yes, please do rename that "Controversy" section to something more descriptive. The introductory section should summarize the entire article; everything that is in that introductory section should be supported someplace else in the article. maclean (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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new material on upcoming renegotiations
This was in The Tyee in today's edition, contains more information about the Treaty and also upcoming renegotiations; just dropped this here for use as a cite for later expansion.Skookum1 (talk) 02:37, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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