Talk:David Ivon Jones

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Regarding this edit: the criterion isn't whether the cause of death had personal significance to the subject, it's whether it's significant to their notability, and there's no evidence of that here. As noted in the article this was a quite common ailment at the time. Regarding the grandfather, if you believe he is independently notable, suggest writing an article about him to be linked. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Alright that makes sense for his cause of death. But according to all the articles who mention him, David's grandfather was a highly influential political and religious activist in Aberystwyth. I would love to make an article about him but I've been nursing the David Ivon Jones page for a few days now and I need a break. Surely the research I cited that states him to have been a notable figure should be enough without having to create an entirely new wiki page? BulgeUwU (talk) 01:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked at the research that you have so it's difficult for me to assess, but being called "notable" in the real world doesn't automatically mean that the person meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Do you believe that he does? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:51, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not well versed in religious history but the experts in the book and research article I cited both say that he had a considerable impact on the religious and political life of Aberystwyth. I looked into it more closely and I believe I found that he already has a wiki page, just under a slightly differently arranged name - John Jones (Ivon) - a quick google search shows most historians call him John Jones and don't use his middle name, but I'm fairly confident he fits into wiki's notability guidelines. BulgeUwU (talk) 01:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * My bad, the sources I cited don't say he (the grandfather) is notable, but looking into his background shows he was the secretary of the National Eisteddfod, winner of an award, published author, considerable media coverage. Yeah he's notable enough for wiki. I'll add some better quality citations and a sentence about his notability to tomorrow. BulgeUwU (talk) 02:04, 12 April 2021 (UTC)