Talk:David John Douglass

David John Douglass- life summary
David John Douglass- coal miner- author- historian-revolutionary- Life summary

(based upon interview with Rony Robinson of Radio Sheffield and broadcast live at the end of 2008 – slightly updated)

I was born into the Tyneside Irish community,(not telling you when) my Ma being Irish, and at the same time The archetypal Tyneside of Geordie Shipyard and Coal mine, my Dad being third generation Coal miner and often shipyard worker too. My Ma came from a family, which included Irish rebels as well as a member of the British Army, though the persecutions by the black and tans made most lean toward active sympathy for the IRA and in some cases membership. My Dad on the other hand Was a moderate, though passionate trade unionist. His formative years had been in the Twenties, and he had struggled through 1921 and the lock-out and by 18 was again locked out in 1926 and part of the general strike. These turning points in the family history and the history of our class I was fully aware at a very early year. They always say That in pit communities you don’t get bed time stories about Goldilocks and the Three bears but rather Churchill and the 26 strike.

The pit was an ever-looming presence, and not always a foreboding one, the pit tip was A ski run and toboggan run with or without snow, a picnic spot, and a battlefield. The pit pond a bottomless ocean of newts, frogs, and wonder.

Memories of me Dad tramping home through the streets in his black, along with an Army of beaming, laughing, and often singing pitmen. It’s a cliché of 1950s film But it’s absolutely true and true until the early 60s at our pit.

I don’t consider the internment that was school an education, battered and caned every day at school, told daily how stupid we were, the only thing I learned and learned well was hatred of authority and injustice. Yes and often too the futility of appeal to reason, the big man with the stick sees no need for Reason. My real education started independent and in many ways in spite of school. I had a fascination with the unknown, legendary creatures, big foot, Abominable snowman, loch ness’s beastie, and flying saucers. I was in the sea cadets and had a love for all things navel & maritime. Had the entire British and German battle fleets in airfix models, read incessantly, knew navel history from Nelson to world war two and could have quoted you the vital statistics of most British and Famous German world war two battleships at the drop of a hat, including each and every one built on the Tyne. But this wasn’t allowed, I borrowed these books from the adult section of the library, when I was caught with them I was frequently caned for it, or given a public showing up. Me being a thicko Ina C class and yet reading and having books was seen as some sort of challenge to the school and more particularly its teachers. I began also, through extension of my interest In nations, and history and warfare an interest in politics, sides, issues, causes. In a way, it led me to an almost evangelical obsession with the anti-bomb struggle and CND. This was especially so after I discovered work which suggested the high rise in nuclear radiation fall-out and the subsequent rise in leukaemia around the world was due to the two WW2 atomic bombs on Japan and the numerous H and A bomb tests in the atmosphere and on remote islands round the world in The 50s and early 60s. My sister had died inexplicably of leukaemia when she was 18, by the time I was 12 I had put these two things together.

I left school, thankfully and joyfully two months before I was 15, the very best part of the school system in those days. Unemployed for a time, already a member of the Young Communist League, my emerging political understanding ensured that my long standing dream of going to sea and becoming a navel officer were knocked on the head. I had sought to join up as soon as I left school, as a boy bugler with the Royal Marines attached to a navel ship. You could do that before you were 15 in those days, I had been in the cadets for years and literally knew the ropes, I had been and actually passed the entrance exams, but the big issue of war and Politics, and the monarchy and class struggle fell on my boyhood aspirations like a Blanket of Calvinism at a drunken party. I often hated this consciousness, which developed quite independently in my brain and often outwith my control. So I had a go at being a baker and more particularly a confectioner, had an apprenticeship and day release classes and everything, but 60 plus hours a week and £1-50 wages Just killed all the thrill I had first had at having a job and learning a skill. I soon joined me da at the pit, and was straight onto coalfaces as a lines lad, though not yet filler. It was magic, the thin seams of the Tyneside coalfield were heroic endeavour for me, and I basked in the class pride of being a pitlad among the rapidly development left and intellectual scene of Newcastle in the 60s. It wasn’t to last, me and my girlfriend, an art student, eloped, loped over the border and got wed, came back to hell fire from our parents, and in need of a house. The pit was in the sites of Wilson’s massive pit closure programme during his famous White Hot Heat Of Modern Technology vision, when he deemed to get rid of those cramped little pits and men working in the black and wet, because we had a shiny new nuclear future, because Harold thought uranium grew on trees, didn’t know the poor Namibian uranium miners worked in conditions ten times worse than ours. As his axe swung toward Wardley I took up the offer of a transfer to Hatfield, and the promise of a pit house. My Maureen got a place at Hull college of Art so we were set. Buy by God, Hatfield wasn’t like Wardley, there was no glamour here this was massive no nonesence industry. Now I had to be down the pit by 6am and not crawling along any narrow coal seams, but pushing my balls off on the pit bottom moving tubs of coal. It was a scene straight from the 30s because the pit bottom and its system of tubs hadn’t changed since the 30s. Socially we were ostracised at first, we were toonies, city kids, not village folk, we dressed in the garb of the beatniks, kids shouted Gypsy at us in the street, at first it was alien and hard beyond description. But you know ? We were where it was at; we were something, which was starting to break out even in remote pit villages, that 60s something, which was in the air, that rebellion which was sweeping the world in politics, revolution and music. We were soon establishing a revolutionary and social nucleus at Hatfield and Doncaster, something which the existing and established Communist Party and Labour and union establishment liked no more than the management. But as someone observed at the time. The Times they were a changing.

I was heart and soul a trade unionist on the far left of the movement, one of the Militants and the reds the papers were so engaged about at the time. I was part of That dry tinder of frustrated young miners upon which the sparks of militancy Being kindled in the mid 60s and would blow into flame by the 1969 unofficial Miners strike movement, and a firestorm by 1972 and 4.

I meantime earned a place to Ruskin College, Oxford, and studied under the Vastly intelligent and talented though hugely eccentric Raph Samuels and his History Workshop. It resulted in some of my work, in the form of histories of The Durham miners, being printed and published quite a coup, for an allegedly thicky from a secondary modern.

I came back to the pit as I had pledged to do, in time for the clash of titans With the fall of the Heath government, counter-insurgency, revolutionary Movements and by now the birth of my daughter Emma.

A little later I got to study at Strathclyde University, business administration and In particular took a BA in Industrial Relations and Law. I returned again to the Pit having worked every holiday and end of term back on the coalface and Back on the front rip. This time I was elected NUM Branch delegate, an Unmatched achievement, which made by parents as proud as if Id been Elected Prime Minister. In the course of the next few years I would have another Book published A Miners Life, and be elected onto the Yorkshire Area Executive Committee.

By the time of the great strike, I was something of the defacto media spokesman for the Union which didn’t always please everyone, as my hard left views were not everyone’s. As the strike broke the Doncaster miners elected my their picket planner and for almost six months of that strike I was something of the Army Council of the Doncaster pickets, playing cat and mouse with the police, their road blocks, phone taps and surveillance.

We know the fate of the strike, but in fact Arthur isnt completely crazy when he says We won, we didn’t actually win but we didn’t loose either, not then. Which is why they came back again in 92/3 to finish the job and exterminate the industry and the Union.

what moments in my life am I most proud of?

Being elected Branch Delegate of the Hatfield Main miners and then Area Executive member of the Yorkshire Area. Gaining first my BA and then my MA Having my work published.

Who are the people who I most admire/who have influenced me?

My Dad, though I wouldn’t have thought that when I was 15, and we were at war. It wasn’t until I was 17 and went to the pit and seen him in his muck doon the pit that it dawned on me, this was one of those workers I waxed so lyrical about. I never up Until That point saw him as ‘a fellow worker and comrade’. His knowledge of history and belief in the miners union was deeper than  the coal seams.

Arthur Scargill of course, though its no hero-worship with me, we have fought each other without quarter at times, it’s somewhat of a love hate relationship. For a moment we seemed to be singing off the same hymn sheet, went down to the anti-coal climate camp to try to talk to the greens about ‘clean coal/ green coal’. Spoke on joint platforms with the anarcho’s and primitives about carbon capture and the need for a powerful miners union, even though I realised we have never actually been in the same chapel. I had to recently stand on the side of the Union against Arthur in a court case he brought against us for Breach Of Rules, so I guess were ‘off’ again.

I think the people of the Irish republican communities in Ulster, like the coal Mining communities here are the bedrock of resistance to tyranny. Those 150,000 miners and their wives and kids, who stuck out for 12 months giving, everything flesh, and blood and even their lives to the cause of saving our dignity, our union and our vision for the future. It is something of the inspiration I gained earlier from the Vietnamese people, heroic beyond compare fighting for dear life against impossible odds for justice against a vastly superior power. These things will never leave me.

Aside from the day job... What other interests and hobbies do I have? Well I actually took early retirement (from being a Union Organiser for the Transport Workers Union) June 2008, so I don’t have a ‘paid’ day job anymore. Truth is I’ve not had a minute yet Trying to promote my books, and bring out the third and last one in the series. Speaking up and down the country on the miners and the class struggle. What with demonstrations and counter-demonstrations, organising conferences and getting my books into the light of day and hopefully into the shops. I am a student of Karate, Shukokai and am now a 3rd Dan in that form, under the tuition of Sensei Alan Rushby a legendary Doncaster martial artist and former international Master. (Recently deceased sadly)

I moved back to Tyneside a couple of years ago and have now started to study Aikido started right back at the beginning and have now got my orange belt, but it’s a bit like old dogs and new tricks never, though I’m trying. It requires quite athletic and nimble rolls and landings. I tend to land like a sack O spuds.

•	Likes:		What do I like/dislike in life

The whole god damn political system; and its getting worse things are getting worse not better. The compliance of the press. The government foreign and domestic propaganda and hysteria and Paranoia has driven the press and most of the British population mad. Half the country lives in fear of perverts, Arabs and teenagers, no news programme is complete or daily edition of the newspaper ready until some fearful or puerile story around paedophiles, knife crime or Muslims can be found, stolen or made up.

I hate the loss of class identity, pride in being working class, pride in roots. I hate the fashion speech, the rising invective that is learned off soap stars, the Americanisation of everything from chips being fries, to forest fires being wildfires and women who previously only had friends now have found ‘girlfriends’.

I hate the way US gangster black culture which had no roots and no relevance here has been imported to bred and born London, and Manchester kids, on the importation of everything else American, school systems, health care, laws, foreign policy the lot.

I hate the middle class PC take over of every thing we do, and everything we are supposed to think, speak, and act. That whole agenda of what’s allowed and what’s offensive and what you can play, smoke, drink, go, gather or whatever. The whole attack on secularism, and enforcement of religious notions and myths.

•	Likes, the way many working class folk are still working class, still talk to each other, still struggle to keep communities alive still make their own minds up and don’t be led through the nose by Government and media agendas of what is right and wrong. I like the fact folk in Barnsley still speak Barnsley, and folk in Dearne Valley still speak like pit folk always have. Like the way they all defy attempts to constrain and criminalise and anti socialise them and still go out at the weekend to good booze up and rip roaring rant round the town.

My Family? Just me sister surviving and of course my daughter and my Granddaughter. My granddaughter like my daughter before her comes all over with me. Like my early years, she too has developed a great interest in folk myths Legends and religion. We often go to various holy places and discuss the rights and wrongs of ancient beliefs, or museums where we Interrogate the various Gods and their statutes as to their validity or otherwise. She’s eight and the best swimmer I have ever seen, quite scary. My son in law and implacable atheist thinks I’m going soft on God in my old age but I doubt I have moved far to agnosticism except on certain matters of reincarnation, I mean I have had three reincarnations in this life and perhaps time travel.

Little-known facts about yourself / memorable experiences:

Narrowly survived death in the pit three times.

Worked for a time in a children’s nursery and in particular in the baby room where I learned just how intelligent babies are, & how totally unique and precious. A microcosm of the whole universe.

Once dug a scabs garden in Nottingham. Had sex with a fascist (I didn’t know that of either of them, at the time I did it, honest, swear to God) Worked building houses in Cuba. Studied in Moscow and Bulgaria. Led a delegation of British miners to Russia Wrote a book for the National Coal Mining Museum Addressed a symposium on Dust diseases at the DRI (Doncaster Royal Infirmary) Argued with a cabinet minister live on TV (Hesseltine) Hit a prime minister with a tomato (bad enough except it was still in the tin) Lord Home. Told Lady Diana’s butler Paul Burrell he was an a….kisser live on TV Fell out with Fidel Castro’s brother and called him something Id better not repeat in case I want to go back there. Faced court injunctions of millions of £ for ‘illegally stopping coal mines’ appeared in a reality TV show, living with a Tory aristocratic Lord, (Living with the enemy) Was quoted by Fayyad (owner of Harrods) on a TV news programme Lectured at Harvard, Yale, Cambridge, and Wellesley College USA Had my own radio series on Radio Sheffield ‘A Miners Life’ Discovered I had Pneumoconiosis, the lads at the pit say its from singing about pit work as I spent all my time in the union office. When I seen it on the X-Ray I thought, ‘behold thy future executioner’

Any remaining ambitions?

I spent most of this year (2009) in Vietnam, a mark of respect and reflection on a great peoples who heavily influenced my life and the life of a generation around the world especially here and the USA. I fell in love with the country and people, and discovered things about them I hadn’t previously known.

Id like to train with the Shao Lin monks in Northern china the year after next but I have to keep an eye on my own mortality, I get knackered after an hour’s intense training in Donie, ner mind after smashing bricks on your head and doing summersaults over bacon slickers all day. I might need to reconsider this one.

I intend to spend in depth time in other parts of the world and soak up the culture of people without the rush and loss that being a package tourist involves.

After my book, all three parts comes out, Stardust and Coaldust hope it can be produced for radio broadcast or even TV as a sort of modern When The Boat Comes In. Then I intend to write a history of the Northumbrian Jacobites. I also want to maybe do a PhD in a Mining Engineering research field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.139.58 (talk) 07:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Notable?
Not to disparage Mr Douglass or his personal and local achievements, but is he really notable enough for Wikipedia? Is he even known in the UK outside his own region? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.163.236.249 (talk) 16:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)


 * He's definitely not notable at all. 2A02:C7C:9B36:7D00:38DC:DB59:FE30:E6A5 (talk) 17:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)