Talk:Discrimination against autistic people

rename
How about changing the article name to Discrimination against people with autism? Editor2020 (talk) 00:54, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Autistic people prefer identity-first language. Sophyphreak (talk) 05:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't think that all autistic people prefer the IDF. They also may prefer to use PFL, or don't care about it.
 * In official language, the PFL is preferred. 109.65.238.15 (talk) 10:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Autistic people have made it very clear that most Autistic people prefer identity-first language. https://autisticadvocacy.org/about-asan/identity-first-language/ https://www.autismontario.com/sites/default/files/2022-12/Autism%20Ontario%20Language%20Statement-EN-FINAL-Sep2022.pdf https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2019/07/identity-first-vs-person-first-language-is-an-important-distinction/ (I'm sure I could find other links to this without much difficulty) The CBC has recently changed how it describes Autistic people for just this reason https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/pride-2023-saskatchewan-accessibility-1.6860787
 * As an Autistic person myself I find the 'official language' used to describe Autistic people discriminatory and have been working to get it changed from 'person with autism' to 'Autistic'.
 * Tydoni (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

This doesn't seem possible. I think a word is missing
"people with disabilities are victims of violent crime three times as often as people with disabilities." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.133.134.174 (talk) 20:19, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

also the next sentence, the word "not" should probably be "note" or better yet the whole thing thrown out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.133.134.174 (talk) 20:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Extend
What about the Autistic meme? That seems pretty racist,Annoymous 12:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.78.58 (talk)

Additional countries' immigration policies
As the NYT reported, Australia and New Zealand routinely reject autistic migrants:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/30/world/asia/migrant-disability-australia-new-zealand.html

This should be added to the "Immigration" section. ZoraSilv (talk) 12:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)


 * It doesn't appear the discrimination is specific to autism though - the countries also discriminate against intellectually disabled immigrants
 * To quote the article: "Australia and New Zealand have long sought to exclude migrants with disabilities. New Zealand’s 19th-century immigration policies explicitly barred people with a variety of disabilities, including those who were blind or deaf. And in legislation introduced around the turn of the 20th century, both Australia and New Zealand barred anyone deemed to have mental problems, as well as 'any person suffering from a contagious disease.'" seems like regular ableism, I'm not sure how notable the autism component is Feralcateater000 (talk) 18:06, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree. I think this section is heavily filled with misinformation. Framing it as autistic specific discrimination when the country will absolutely allow autistic people to immigrate as long as they don't cost the country over a certain amount of money. People can call it abliesm, but it's actually there as a rule to protect the countries' own disabled people. Both Australia and New Zealand already have their money spread thin in healthcare. Accepting immigration from people who need more help that they can not provide would be a bad decision. So I think putting it under autistic discrimination needs to be either removed, or clarified more clearly. 131.217.255.100 (talk) 01:30, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * flagged the sources in that section as user generated. I don't think I understand immigration policy well enough to determine if the information belongs in this article but regardless a listicle shouldn't be where the info comes from Feralcateater000 (talk) 13:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

NPOV in section on Immigration
Specifically the paragraph on Australia. Australia's "health criteria" are in scare quotes and the last sentence is not phrased neutrally. 293CD (talk) 14:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Removed scare quotes and editorializing in the last sentence Feralcateater000 (talk) 15:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

school
I think this article should have something about the abuse against autistic students in school.

here are links to reports of this.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/lawsuit-alleges-abuse-of-student-with-autism-baltimore/41138598#

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/school-staff-broke-leg-of-boy-with-autism-lawsuit-says/3415029/

also the practice of restraining autistic student is often overused by school staff this video explains it well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWhAZ7CJY5E Snowman680 (talk) 21:53, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Disability, Communication and Visual Culture
— Assignment last updated by Elizguffey (talk) 18:44, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Misleading
New Zealand does not effectively ban immigration with an autism diagnosis. The linked article for this claim is also misleading,lacks balance and is out of date. Immigration NZ will flag diagnosis that are deemed "serious and severe" and has a healthcare burden of $NZ81,000/5yr. Most if not all functioning adults and children looking to immigrate to NZ will not meet those criteria and many can and do immigrate to NZ every year without issue. This article does not reflect that reality and I fear that this section is based on the one linked article. 2407:7000:8DB6:C000:C8CF:758E:2CB8:D812 (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC)