Talk:Displaced persons camps in post–World War II Europe

Pictures
Hi there,

Is there anybody to write a few words concerning the pictures? If not, we should remove them from the text. cu --Telegraph 18:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Errors
There are several errors in this article, for example: "Groups that had fought or worked on behalf of Nazi Germany and could be considered traitors", such groups or persons were excluded from treatment as Displace Persons. " Groups that had fled persecution in their countries to begin with" = there were no such groups in war-time Nazi Germany. These references have been deleted and replaced with corrected sentences. Syrenab 17:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Braunau am Inn belonged and belongs to Austria, not Germany. Its enumeration among the German camps in the US zone is not correct. 217.67.100.131 (talk) 10:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Additions
What about the French sector displaced persons camps in Austria? For info, see displaced persons camps.

In the British group of camps in Italy there was one set up in Eboli - people predominantly from all parts of Yugoslavia. It was there for an extended period of time. Some people in Eboli still remember it and there is one last remaining rusted Nissan hut still in evidence buried under shrubbery. A couple of photos of  buildings and tents, one from the "Archivio fotografico eboli" as well as personal photos which clearly show the township of Eboli in the background - easily distinguishable. Another British camp in Germany was Großenbode on a, then, recently abandoned (minor) airfield. This come from oral history from several people, still alive, who spent time there. Have been unable to find other documentation but do not doubt the veracity of material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruztr (talk • contribs) 05:29, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was move per request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:34, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Displaced Persons camp → Displaced persons camp — Relisted. fuzzy510 (talk) 07:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC) Requesting move to avoid unnecessary capitalisation. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Cordless Larry (talk) 17:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: The original move was based on this discussion, so this proposed move should be the subject of a proper talk page discussion. – ukexpat (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This has now been done. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * A search of Google Books suggests that lower case is the most common format, unless the reference is to the name of a specific camp, in which case all three words are capitalised (e.g. "Belsen Displaced Persons Camp"). Cordless Larry (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Displaced persons is not a proper noun (not even a proper collective noun!), and so capitalisation is inappropriate.  As Cordless Larry points out, the exception would be if it were used as part of the name of a specific camp.  Skinsmoke (talk) 15:23, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The US Jewish Holocaust Memorial Museum says only 137,450 Jewish DP's
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007094

This article which is cited by the US Jewish Holocaust Memorial Museum (as reputable as you'll get for American Jewish resources). This says that 137,450 Jewish DP's were admitted into the US between 1941 and 1952 (most of the years when Jewish DP's relocated). As the museum notes, most went to Israel. The US was not a high receiving country for Jewish DP's or DP's in general. Despite having a much larger population, they still took less than Australia and Canada. The primary reason for this was because of the Immigration Act of 1924 which was in full effect until 1965. That is why few immigrants from the eastern hemisphere arrived to the US over the course of those 4 decades. This number has to be illustrated in this section and I will keep putting it back if deleted without an expalanation and a credible counter resource. Otherwise, it will mislead non-Americans about the Jewish American population. Since it says most DP's were Jewish, it will give people the thought that most of the 600,000 (proclaimed by this Wikipedia article with no citation) were Jewish. However, the foreign born percentage of Jewish Americans is low and even those who are came from Russia and Israel within the last couple decades. The number I read showed an admittance to 400,000 DP's from Eastern Europe (of all backgrounds). Until citation is provided, the 600,000 figure should not be there. Lastly, the Holocaust Museum notes that by the time US immigration policies loosened for DP's (although still not quite loose compared to other countries), most Jews had opted to go to Israel after the state were created in 1948. Prior to the early-1950's, it notes that 80,000 of the 400,000 admitted, were Jewish. Tom97.106.179.55 (talk) 21:44, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Change of name of Sh'erit ha-Pletah page, and link on this page
The Sh'erit ha-Pletah page contains excellent information on the history of Jewish Displaced Persons, but is misleadingly named. "Sh'erit ha-Pletah" (a transliteration of a Hebrew term which can be spelled in a variety of ways) is a general term for Holocaust survivors originating in Israeli Hebrew, not specific to DPs. However, the existing page under that title only has to do with DPs. The information included there may be too detailed to include directly on this page. But I would like to suggest renaming that page "Jewish Displaced Persons" (a term widely used in many articles about the topic) and linking to it in a paragraph on this page. Sarah Ponichtera (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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German Expellees who were Displaced Persons
From the section "DP camps following World War II - Establishing a system for resolving displacement": "(Estimates for displaced persons do not typically include several million ethnic Germans in Europe (Poland, the Netherlands etc.) who were expelled and repatriated in Germany. See Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–1950).)"

Although these populations certainly deserve their own pages with greater detail, as do all of the other populations who were displaced at the end of World War II, why would they not be included at all on this page except for this one referring link?? Many millions of ethnic Germans - 15 million? 16 million? - officially became Displaced Persons, carried DP paperwork and were housed and processed at DP camps throughout the Allied zones from 1944 through the 1950s. They are by definition part of the subject of this page.

My Mom, grandmother and Aunt, who were Silesian and lived near Breslau (which was given to Poland and 'resettled' by eastern refugees after (or really during) ethnic cleansing of ethnic Germans), remained there under brutal Soviet occupation, doing forced labor, from 1945 to 1947 (Mom was 5 to 7 years old) and then were forced on to cattle cars one day and sent to the Hann.-Munden camp in the British Sector, where they lived in the cattle cars for the first two months they were there. They got a room to share in an apartment with 7 occupants after that, and were eventually able to emigrate to the US in 1950. They were in the Hann.-Munden DP camp for three years. This all happened through official auspices.

My reference is your own page that is linked here which acknowledges that many millions of ethnic Germans were in the displaced persons system that this page is about. Why would ethnic Germans be excluded from this page? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sblanchard56 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

DPs to USSR?
There is nothing in this article about whether any DPs were taken in by the Soviet union, or if the Soviet union restricted entry. Is this because none, or insignificant numbers, attempted to go there, or is it a gap in the article that needs to be filled? BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

== "The difficulties of repatriation": removal of uncited, questionable text. ==

A paragraph in the "the difficulties of repatriation" section begins:

"Jewish survivors of the death camps and various work camps refused to return to their countries of origin, starting instead an extensive underground movement to migrate to the British Mandate of Palestine."

The paragraph is cited to pages 580 and 581 of Marilyn J. Harran's "Holocaust Chronicle", which may be found here.

The first sentence cannot be related to anything in the source. In addition, it is untrue, as some Jewish DPs (eg. Primo Levi) did return to their countries of origin. For those reasons, I deleted the setence.

   ←   ZScarpia  13:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)