Talk:Effects of Hurricane Sandy in New York

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DELETE
There is no need for a separate article on this. An article on Hurricane Sandy is more than enough.203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The scale of this event in New York clearly warrant an article on its own. The creation of this article is to limit the size of the main article on the hurricane to make it more accessible to users. This is common practice across Wikipedia, especially with major events. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 05:31, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I wish the editors would TOTALLY MOVE all NY and NJ to their respective separate pages and JUST leave a link on the main Hurricane Sandy to those pages. It's too confusing on where to put IMPACT the way it is now with TWO IMPACT area for the same states. Do you agree? I am for the separate pages, but I'm jaded since I'm a New Yorker...:)

Kennvido (talk) 06:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Staten Island tanker
Can someone supply a picture of the grounded tanker on Staten Island? Or the flooded subway stations? -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 10:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

I will be in Manhattan today, stay tuned.--Woogie10w (talk) 13:01, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I spent four hours in lower Manhattan on foot, Chinatown was without power and the shops shuttered, crews were pumping out flood water from the office towers on Water and Wall Streets. Traffic was light and there was hardly anything worth note to photograph except the South Ferry Subway Station October 31,2012   --Woogie10w (talk) 13:02, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your efforts -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 08:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Tense
A lot of the article is in the past participle or present tense. Everything needs to be in the simple past tense.

Where/what/when designated are "zone A," "Zone B," etc.?
See subject. The term, here and in the main article, is tossed around as if everyone knows what and where it is. I nor heard of it before, and I found out I live in it.

I'm actually quite interest in it, if it's a post-9/11 thing.

__Also__, someone who knows should mention that emergency text messages--full pop-up graphic screens, actually--appeared automatically periodically on cell phones. Bannered text with "Seek shelter immediately," Do not drive," etc. came on with an alarm sound and vibration. Some people with cells didn't get them, however.

As I say, I live in lower east side across the street from the Con Ed plant that blew up.

The message said, I think, "in this area," so perhaps it was cued to location.

Must be post 9/11; cop I spoke to said he had only seen it used in a police-wide (I think) test.

Note that on 9/11 the famous Emergency Broadcast System was not used.

I think this is an extraordinarily interesting and novel event in NYC. Shlishke (talk) 16:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant
In the article for hurricane Sandy, under the "Impact" - "New York" section, it states the following: One of the units at Indian Point nuclear power plant (Unit #3) was shut down around 10:45 p.m. October 29, because of external electrical grid issues according to plant operator Entergy. It links to this page as the main article, so I came here to read more about this. But this article has nothing about the power plant. 80.202.75.220 (talk) 05:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC) (Nick)


 * As often happens for major news, the event's Wikipedia page has become a large, sloppy, unwieldy Root page. Efforts to split off a large national section into a large separate article has failed, as have efforts to move minor matters to smaller articles such as this one. If some editors have time to deal with the resulting edit conflicts and other difficulties, they should move minor or peripheral matters like this one. Then we can decide whether to keep, expand, or delete them.  Jim.henderson (talk) 13:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Coverage of Hard Hit Area's outside Manhattan
The article seems to primarily be focused on Manhattan with little to no mention of the absolute devastation in the outer boroughs. Specifically Sheepshead Bay, Gerritsen Beach, Brighton Beach, Coney Island & Sea Gate, The Rockaways & Breezy Point. There is tons of documentation out there of the destruction. The majority of it is ignored by the big news media and has been covered by smaller blogs and tumblr's and twitterers. Perhaps someone would like to scour the net for these accounts and add them. 69.122.44.171 (talk) 23:15, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, thse are seldom WP:RELIABLE sources. I visited South Beach, Staten Island yesterday and got some pictures and will perhaps find time Tuesday for Coney Island and vicinity. Anyway Wikipedia, whatever its merits, is not organized to do news well. We're not even Wikinews. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:40, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sheepshead Bites should be considered WP:RELIABLE. It's an established/award winning news blog. 69.122.44.171 (talk) 23:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Great time lapse video of sandy if anyone wants to import it
- i'd use firefogg, the firefox extension to import it.Victor Grigas (talk) 07:23, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Political Effects in NY is needed
Cuomo used the funds that were intended for the eletrical bills of residents hit by the storm to advertise for himself. This was very controversial and I will be making a section unless anyone objects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youngdrake (talk • contribs) 10:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I added the section yet I cannot seem to get the refrence templates to work. This is just copied from Cuomo's page and uses the same refrences if anyone could do that it would be greatly appreciated.--Youngdrake (talk) 11:29, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Highly Disorganized.
This is one of the most disorganized and semi-incoherent articles that I've read on Wikipedia. It seems to move from one immaterial fact to another with little purpose. I sought to find out what effects the storm had on utility services delivery in Manhattan, in hopes of being prepared for future storms. Yet I could find nothing about whether cooking gas was disrupted or where. Neither could I find what areas of Manhattan had been deprived of electricity.50.108.243.154 (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.108.243.154 (talk) 16:21, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

10/27/2016 Edits
In intro:

//Citation added for damage costs.

Under Immediate Aftermath:

//Consolidation of micro paragraphs into more cohesive arrangements, removal of an uncited statement. Relinked a broken citation to a new source that mentions the public health emergency declaration.

//Sentence deleted due to citation leading to a 404 Error and not being able to find a replacement.

Under Venue Closures:

//Sentence waived below stating that a full list of parks closed could be found on the citation at the end of the paragraph.

Under Transportation:

//Everything said here gets explained further down. Removed for redundancy.

Under Ground:

//A picture depicting a flooded subway tunnel entrance was removed due to this section already being very dense with pictures and a similar picture already existing.

//Deleted sentence here as a result of not seeing how it related to overall theme of the paragraph.

Under Events:

//Deleted section about events that progressed as planned. The hurricane did not effect these events, so I see no reason for them to be included in an article about the Effects of Hurricane Sandy. Cancelled and Rescheduled events subsections combined due to lacking enough substance to stand alone.

Under Evacuations and Rescues During Storm:

//Sentence removed due to being information later listed under Fires.

Under Damage:

//Fatalities section lacked content, and was thus removed and information was added to here.

Under Fires:

//Sentence here was uncited and not relevant to fires. Paragraph below editted to include more information from the source in addition to reading more coherently.

Under Political:

//Unnecessary quote removed and citations added, as well as cleaning up the section regarding the ad campaign to read better. Removed from Events subsection and given its own header.

Hopefully this improves the article a bit in legibility. Also, previous talk page user had accidentally posted the same message three times by accident, so I deleted the first two which had been posted with weird formatting and left the third one. Falgaia (talk) 00:28, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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Intensity
Was this cyclone even a hurricane when it hit the N.J.-NYC area? Only reason it's called super is that it had the effrontery to hit new York. If it had hit Florida, it would be a minor storm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:346:580:1FD0:9D5F:EC92:B815:EE79 (talk) 17:35, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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