Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones

Project notes
I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. Jdorje 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Tropical Storm Debby (2006)
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash; Tropical Storm Debby (2006)&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please follow the (Discuss) link at the top of the article to participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Flux55

Merger discussion for Hurricane Joyce (2000)
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash; Hurricane Joyce (2000)&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please follow the (Discuss) link at the top of the article to participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Flux55

Current storm information, and the resulting external links involved
Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents - please see the ongoing discussion here. There’s a bit of an edit war in the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season about this section. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

TfD for current storm templates
Following the abovementioned ANI discussion, Template:Infobox weather event/Current, Template:Infobox weather event/live, Template:HurricaneWarningsTable, Template:IMDWarningsTable, and Template:TyphoonWarningsTable have been nominated for deletion, citing concerns with MOS:CURRENT and WP:NOTNEWS. Editors are invited to participate in the discussion at Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 19. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 05:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Village Pump discussion on information pertaining to current storms
I have posted a discussion at Village Pump (Policy) as a followup to the ANI thread on how to handle information on current tropical cyclones. It can be found at Village pump (policy). TornadoLGS (talk) 23:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Units again
My proposal is to use metric units first in infoboxes and meteorological history sections in Atlantic and Pacific hurricane articles. This is because countries affected by these hurricanes include number of countries using entirely or almost entirely metric units. Only impacts in the United States would use imperial units first. For example, storms impacting both Mexico and US would use metric first in section of impacts in Mexico and imperial first in section of impacts in US. And possibly Belize and Bahamas would use imperial units too. This is example of metric units first in article of Hurricane Otis:

Hurricane Otis was a compact but very powerful tropical cyclone which made a devastating landfall in October 2023 near Acapulco as a Category 5 hurricane. Otis was the first Pacific hurricane to make landfall at Category 5 intensity and surpassed Hurricane Patricia as the strongest landfalling Pacific hurricane on record. The resulting damage made Otis the costliest tropical cyclone to strike Mexico on record. The fifteenth tropical storm, tenth hurricane, eighth major hurricane, and second Category 5 hurricane of the 2023 Pacific hurricane season, Otis originated from a disturbance several hundred kilometers south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec. Initially forecast to stay offshore and to only be a weak tropical storm at peak intensity, Otis instead underwent explosive intensification to reach peak winds of 270 km/h and weakened only slightly before making landfall as a powerful Category 5 hurricane. Once inland, the hurricane quickly weakened before dissipating the following day.[...] Light to moderate southeasterly wind shear displaced convection northwest of Otis's surface circulation during the overnight hours of October 22–23. The lack of vertical alignment and dry mid-level air delayed potential intensification despite an otherwise favorable environment consisting of high sea surface temperatures and abundant atmospheric moisture. Sea surface temperatures ahead of the system averaged 30 –, above average for this time of year. The high temperatures resulted from a combination of a record-warm September for Mexico, an ongoing El Niño, and the influence of global warming. The system's motion shifted from due north to north-northwest during this time, remaining around 6 –. A convective band developed halfway around the storm by the afternoon of October 23, and the surface circulation and thunderstorm activity moved closer together. During the overnight of October 23–24, the storm moved into a region of more favorable conditions, with higher sea surface temperatures and weaker vertical wind shear. Microwave satellite imagery depicted a low-level ring structure, often a precursor to rapid intensification, despite the overall sheared appearance of the system. The storm's forward motion also increased during this time, potentially offsetting the negative impacts of southeasterly wind shear. As a result, upper-level outflow expanded noticeably and the system's core became centered in the convection. This led to Otis beginning an intensification phase that would continue until landfall. As the morning of October 24 progressed, outflow continued to expand in all directions atop Otis and many banding features circulated the storm. The improvement in outflow was accentuated by a powerful jet streak—a wind maxima within the jet stream—which accelerated the rate of latent heat dispersal and fostered convective development. Otis commenced explosive intensification and became a hurricane by 12:00 UTC (07:00 CDT) on October 24. [...] --40bus (talk) 07:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. Right now, this is a factor of the Infobox weather event displaying the units for a basin, I believe. Hurricane Juan, an Atlantic hurricane affecting Canada, should absolutely have the metric units first. I believe it could be easy to change the programming for Infobox weather event to be something like: unit = metric. Especially since that infobox is now used worldwide. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * why not just display metric first globally since it would be confusing to do it for a few specific countries. Most TCs affect more than one country anyways. Noah, BSBATalk 20:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yea, make metric the default, and maybe just have a coding switch if it's primarily affecting the US? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What Im saying is just use metric first regardless of country which would harmonize things globally. Every country except the US uses metric within the NHC AORs. I don't see a need to use customary units first in any article since it would make things disorderly within a set of season articles. Better to just make them all the same. Noah, BSBATalk 00:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree if the US used the metric system, that would harmonize things globally for sure! Unfortunately the US abandoned their efforts to metricate in the 1990s. Also, the NHC uses imperial units as the default, which could be enough justification for keeping Atlantic hurricane season articles as using imperial units first, even if some seasons might feature more systems impacting metric-using countries. Also, this being the English Wikipedia, the US accounts for majority of the views. So, in an ideal world, yea, we'd use metric system first, but I think there should be an exception for US storms and the AHS. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Can someone confirm if this image is Hurricane Floyd or Hurricane Fran?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_in_the_1990s.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_off_the_east_coast_sometime_in_the_1990s.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_off_the_east_coast_in_the_1990s.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_off_the_east_coast_in_the_90s_2.png CurlyHeadCel (talk) 00:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Well where did you get those images? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 02:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * NOAA/NASA CurlyHeadCel (talk) 00:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yea, like what website? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * some NOAA archive website I forgot the name of CurlyHeadCel (talk) 01:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It will probably get deleted if you can't remember the name of the website. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * https://earthdata.nasa.gov/ CurlyHeadCel (talk) 02:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit confused. These are all images of Hurricane Humberto (2019) with weird filters applied to make it look like they were old images. I'm not sure if they fall in the scope of either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. — TheAustinMan (Talk ⬩ Edits) 01:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you confirm it's not Floyd? CurlyHeadCel (talk) 01:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * yes, I am 100% certain that is not Floyd, and 100% certain that Humberto is the hurricane depicted. — TheAustinMan (Talk ⬩ Edits) 02:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Why do you 100% think it's not Floyd but some other hurricane CurlyHeadCel (talk) 02:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As I stated elsewhere, a lot of these photographs have 1960s and 1970s quality, not late-1990s as you claim. You are misrepresenting these images at the very least. Im quite convinced TAM is correct given the similarities I have seen between the Humberto images and the ones you have posted. The resemblance is almost uncanny. Noah, BSBATalk 02:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide me the images that uncannily resemble the edited images then bhai? I got them from the link pasted saar CurlyHeadCel (talk) 02:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Image 3 is almost the exact same as the first image on Hurricane Humberto (2019). ✶Qux  yz  ✶  02:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Is it the cloud formations, cloud size, eye area? CurlyHeadCel (talk) 02:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Did you edit the images? That’s the real question here. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 02:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Here is the source of all four images. ✶Qux  yz  ✶  02:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * yeah the person had some creepy PFP as well CurlyHeadCel (talk) 02:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * no. I actually found them on discord and I was told they were from a NASA archive from the person who posted them CurlyHeadCel (talk) 02:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move for Hurricane Alley
Hello! I've requested for Hurricane Alley to be moved to Main Development Region, with the associated move discussion located on the talk page. Your input would be welcome! ArkHyena (talk) 02:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)