Talk:Elizabeth Haigh

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Statement by Sharon Wee regarding the withdrawal of Makan by Elizabeth Haigh: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUrwpENpCAv

Side-by-side comparison of Makan with other sources:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUykKg-haqD/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU1YE8RhEA-/

2A01:388:33B:112:0:0:1:5 (talk) 23:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * This is still original research. We do not examine the pages ourselves, but must wait for an independent, reliable and secondary source to examine the pages and report on their findings, which means the person making the accusation, Sharon Wee, cannot be used to cite the claim.


 * Per Wikipedia's policy on self-published sources, we do not cite claims by random people on Instagram either. If the allegations are true, it will be duly reported upon by news media and Bloomsbury, of which the information can then be added.Seloloving (talk) 23:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for taking the time to write this explanation. It feels a bit frustrating because the side-by-side comparisons presented in Daryl Lim Wei Jie's Instagram posts (if true) seem so damning, although I fully appreciate the need for independent verification. It's not clear that Bloomsbury will issue a statement, having already removed the book from their website. The Daily Mail has published an article here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10078307/MasterChef-cook-praised-Nigella-Lawson-accused-poaching-recipes-fellow-writer.html, but The Daily Mail is not recognised as a reliable source by Wikipedia. I just feel strongly about plagiarism, especially when it is egregious. But thanks again for your comment. 2A01:388:33B:112:0:0:1:5 (talk) 00:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * will this article on DailyMail will make a difference? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10078307/MasterChef-cook-praised-Nigella-Lawson-accused-poaching-recipes-fellow-writer.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pl8on (talk • contribs) 08:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * , Daily Mail is considered as a generally unreliable source and is generally prohibited from use by the Wikipedia community. So you got to find another source. – robertsky (talk) 08:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * So, how about the Guardian? https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/oct/11/former-masterchef-contestants-book-pulled-amid-plagiarism-accusations 86.0.204.19 (talk) 16:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * If you have noticed, in the article there is already a statement of the book being withdrawn due to the allegations of plagarism which is backed by two references. There's no need to bomb that sentence with too many references, without adding any more infomration than it is already there. – robertsky (talk) 16:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2021
I like to suggest the following changes. This is a real news published on two news websites now

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10078307/amp/MasterChef-cook-praised-Nigella-Lawson-accused-poaching-recipes-fellow-writer.html

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/ex-masterchef-elizabeth-haigh-accused-plagiarising-singaporean-sharon-wee-080618286.html

Her cookbook “Makan” was withdrawn by the publisher Bloomsbury in October 2021 after Haigh was accused of plagiarising recipes and other content from Singaporean author Sharon Wee's 2021 book Growing up in a Nonya Kitchen. 2A01:4C8:1043:F1B4:ADAD:398F:377F:431F (talk) 09:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Finally. The yahoo source works. Can't use Daily Mail as a source. – robertsky (talk) 09:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * See also: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/elizabeth-haigh-makan-plagiarism-bloomsbury-b1936002.html


 * The text should make clear that Haigh was accused of plagiarising personal anecdotes as well. 5.151.46.78 (talk) 10:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The Times and The Guardian have picked up the story too:
 * https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/masterchef-contestant-elizabeth-haigh-accused-of-cookbook-plagiarism-s7wvcxckc
 * https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/oct/11/former-masterchef-contestants-book-pulled-amid-plagiarism-accusations
 * 2A01:388:33B:112:0:0:1:5 (talk) 16:33, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * uh... thanks. but there's no need to bomb that sentence with too many references, without adding any more information than it is already there. – robertsky (talk) 16:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC)