Talk:Elizabeth Warren/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Binksternet (talk · contribs) 19:00, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Review

 * Barack Obama should be wikilinked at Obama's first appearance, not just the unlinked surname Obama. Subsequently, the unlinked surname Obama should be used, without the title President.
 * Wikilink U.S. president at its first appearance, not later.
 * The contraction "didn't" should be expanded to two words in the phrase, "she didn't have the required education courses".
 * There's a dead link to an AP story entitled "Consumer advocate Elizabeth Warren launches US Senate campaign with tour of Massachusetts". Google has a cache of the story here, and another here. The dead link cite should be augmented with an archive link.
 * Bare URL references ought to be fixed sometime soon, though this step is not required by WP:WIAGA. A good tool for doing so quickly can be found here. After the page loads, hit the top button "Fix bare references".


 * I am continuing this review a little later. It looks like there will be many other concerns to address. Feel free to apply corrections to the above-listed points. I will strike through any points I see fixed. Binksternet (talk) 19:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The lead section is clunky, a patchwork of voices, with CFPB turning up three times under a confused chronology. It would be smoother to first say she is a candidate for Senate as well as a law professor, then work backwards to her previously advocating for CFPB and then being chosen by Obama to develop it, then continuing back in time with her as chair of TARP and being called the "new sheriff".
 * The bit about Cordray needs to be removed from the lead section as there is nothing about him in the article. The bit makes it seem that Warren was not suited to the position. Or see below...
 * Following the TARP section, a new section must be added to the article about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau describing Warren's advocacy of such a group, then about Obama's selection of Warren to develop the group.
 * The cquote template must be changed to the quote template in every case. Cquotes are for very short pull quotes, not extended quotes.
 * The Recognition section is staccato, seemingly in list form. The little sentences should be tied together in some cohesive paragraphs.
 * I think "became popular on the internet" is misleading. A video that is viewed many times is not necessarily popular.
 * The "Popular works" section does not need ISBN entries for Warren's books. They appear later in a list.
 * The phrase "because 75% of those who fit that description" is redundant. "Of those" is sufficient, and "who fit that description" is sufficient. Both are not needed.
 * Expand the contraction "she'd" in "she'd begun dating".
 * The sentence "They later divorced in 1979" is redundant. In context, 1979 is understood as being later. Delete "later". Also, many sources say she divorced in 1978.
 * Semicolon, not a comma, following "born Elizabeth Herring in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma".
 * Comma after "NASA engineer in Houston".
 * Rutgers Law Review should be italicized.
 * "Her Juris Doctor" law degree.
 * The paragraph about being married to Bruce Mann is misleading in that Mann is followed by mentions of Warren's daughter and son who were not fathered by Mann but by Jim Warren.
 * The fact that she is a grandmother should be mentioned. Two granddaughters in Los Angeles, according to the Bloomberg source in November 2009. Three grandchildren, according to EMILY's List a month ago.
 * Jim Warren moved his wife to New Jersey after a few years in Houston.
 * Vogue said in December 2010 that Warren had been married to Bruce Mann "for 30 years". And U.S. News confirms the year. The article should say she married Mann in 1980.
 * Some more up-to-date articles should be read and cited, including the current Vanity Fair article and last month's Washington Post article.
 * The Warren quote with en dashes should have non-breaking spaces in front of each en dash. The easiest way is to use Template:Ndash: –.

I am putting this review on hold. It has major problems with a) failure to address the main aspects and b) prose that is not clear and concise. These problems are not insurmountable but they would normally cause a GAN to be failed. Instead, I will hold the GAN open to see if contributors wish to bring the article up to speed. Binksternet (talk) 00:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Striking through addressed points. Binksternet (talk) 00:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Provide a wikilink and full name to FDIC. The committee Warren is a member of is the FDIC Advisory Committee on Economic Inclusion, not the FDIC Committee on Economic Inclusion.
 * Separate more clearly the memberships in the FDIC and the National Bankruptcy Conference. These groups are completely different.
 * This source, and this one, too, says Warren was the Commission Reporter/Consultant for the National Bankruptcy Review Commission, not the Chief Adviser. Warren "was responsible for coordinating the Commission's analysis of issues and organizing the Commission meetings...[and] drafting proposals and memoranda for the Commissioners...[and] the preparation of the Commission's Report." The paragraph needs a cite.
 * The article gives both 1978 and 1979 as the divorce year. The cited source following 1979 says 1978!
 * The bit about Cordray being chosen to head CFPB needs a cite. Here's one that might help. Other sources explain in more detail that Warren would very likely not have been confirmed in the position by Republican opponents if she had been put forward by Obama as CFPB chief.
 * The sentence describing the scholarly paper by Warren and Himmelstein cannot have the word claim in it. Per WP:SAY, the word calls the paper's credibility into question. Replace claim with a neutral word.
 * Delete the sentence, "All reports and videos are available at cop.senate.gov." Turn the URL into a reference for the preceding sentence.
 * The sentence about the December 2009 Newsweek interview does not need so much detail about the date, the article title and the publication. The question that was asked of Warren is not important; her answer can stand alone. The first sentence of her answer is enough.
 * Warren's "departing address" to TARP was really an email message, not an address spoken aloud. In the middle of the address, the words "Warren wrote" should be replaced with three dots, for instance: "the economic security of the middle class... I leave this agency"
 * Describing the closeness of Warren and Brown's Senate race, the phrase "within five points" should be "within five points of each other".
 * The honor of being named one of the 40 most influential American attorneys in the decade 2000–2009 should be in the article.
 * The fact should be mentioned that Warren's bid for Senate is being supported by EMILY's List, and that the ActBlue website shows Warren as its top recipient.

Striking through addressed points. More added. Binksternet (talk) 07:50, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Please leave the strikethrough text to me. I rewrote the 40 Most Influential bit and I formatted the cite. Binksternet (talk) 15:10, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Striking through addressed points. Binksternet (talk) 05:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Explain the relevance of this sentence, or delete it: "At that time, most scholarships were athletic scholarships for men, and there were few women on the debate team."

One remaining issue still needs attention: explaining to the reader why Cordray and not Warren was named to lead CFPB. Take a look at the Richard Cordray article to see if some of its references and cited facts can be brought here. More Cordray analysis and possibly useful quotes from people such as Barney Frank and Warren herself: CFPB Spotlight, "Obama Sidesteps Elizabeth Warren, Picks Richard Cordray to Lead Consumer Financial Protection Bureau" ABC News, "President Obama Spurns Elizabeth Warren, But Confirming Richard Cordray Will Likely Be No Easier" HuffPo, "Obama will nominate Cordray to head new consumer protection bureau" CNN Politics, "Former Ohio Attorney General to Head New Consumer Agency" NYT. Binksternet (talk) 17:17, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

✅ All points addressed, article passes GAN! Congratulations to all who helped. Binksternet (talk) 01:16, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the excellent review. Designate (talk) 01:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)