Talk:Elizabethan collar

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images
I think the images should be in gallery form, so I have reverted. If anyone feels differently, please let me know. - Ta bu shi da yu 22:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * As per comments on Ta bu shi da yu's talk page, I do feel differently, hence my previous edit that Ta bu shi da yu reverted. The article is about the dog collar and should be illustrated prominently with a picture of a dog collar.  A picture fo QE1 is a useful reference but should not be the most prominent illustration.  Gallery images are too small.  If two images mean one is redundant, then Otto's picture should stay as his was there first and "he" wrote the article.--A  Y  Arktos 23:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * He does not own the article, I think you need to get this straight first of all. Secondly, if you wish to revert, I don't have an issue with it. I do have an issue with the page layout now, however. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Three animal pictures are enough, hence I have reverted the latest addition to the gallery - did not add anything--A Y Arktos\talk 09:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Otto: love yr work. Steev 13:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Gallery images
When you use a gallery you are welcoming people to add to it. Do not try to stop its growing, after all, galleries are used just for that. It's not the same case as inline images on articles, which should never become too numerous or the readability of the article will suffer. Placing galleries on the end of articles will let them grow without affecting the article itself as I have done in the Boxer article. Now users can upload pictures and the article itself remain clean and readable. Loudenvier 16:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I would suggest the addtion of at least one image of a soft elizabethian collar (which is semi-rigid). I have been using them with my cats for a few years now and they very good for younger animals and for those who become severely stressed when wearing a rigid collar.  It's an option that readers should be able to view.LiPollis 10:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Is the rightmost picture's caption acceptable? Whoever added this image mentioned their dog's name. The image also does not clearly demonstrate what the caption describes; that is, the fact that the dog is refusing to move (this is probably not easily acheived using a still). I am NOT recommending the deletion of this image; merely its recaptioning. If the owner of this image wishes to describe the image, (s)he may wish to do so on the image's description. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.33.223.145 (talk) 05:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I think the gallery images really detract from the article - it's like I'm on gawker or something - the photos just seem like pure spectacle and humor - I can't see the encyclopedic value in having so many photos of animals in collars. Put another way, this gallery of images seems out of place on Wikipedia and most articles I read don't have similar depictions. It seems like we have so many depictions in this case because people want to share images of animals in collars, and that doesn't seem to me like what Wikipedia is for? Input welcome - I suggest we have only 1-3 images in the article and no more than one of any given animal species. Also, the photos themselves are very low quality, so propose to remove the low quality photos. Stevemidgley (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Alternatives to the Elizabethan Collar
There are a lot of alternatives to the Elizabethan Collar out there. I encourage submission of such to expand the useful nature of the web-site for pet owners. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.7.143 (talk) 06:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Added image of inflatable e-collar alternative. --AslanEntropy (talk) 14:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Cone of shame
I think we should have cone of shame redirect hereOttawa4ever (talk) 15:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree because it is a significant pop culture reference to the article's subject and am pleased to see that it is already redirected appropriately. Daniel McMullen (talk) 03:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What pop culture references are there to this? I know of only one; but I often find "popular culture" parts of articles quite interesting and informative.


 * The one I can think of is in a children's book by Enid Blyton: In Five on a Secret Trail, no. 15 of her Famous Five series, the dog belonging to one of the central characters, Timmy, has to wear such a collar after an injury, and George, Timmy's mistress, can't bear people laughing at his appearance, mocking his "Elizabethan ruffs", so the two leave home and camp in the common up the road until Timmy can recover. Her friends join her there, and this gives rise to the whole adventure which the book is about.
 * Published 1956, which throws the assertion in the article that it was invented in the early 1960s by a particular vet into doubt.146.162.241.241 (talk) 09:02, 6 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Still, I'm not sure if a mention of things like this is appropriate for the article, and I don't really know how I'd go about introducing it in an appropriate way. M.J.E. (talk) 05:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

My family and everyone I know has been using cone of shame for decades. Up used a british term, they didn't invent it. 82.9.105.183 (talk) 19:07, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

General Content
This page could use a lot of work on the general content. It could use some organization. Also I propose that in the sentence that includes "biting or licking at its body or scratching at its head or neck while wounds or injuries heal." should not referenced by the patent that is referenced. That patent is a specific variation on the Elizabethan Collar and not a good reference for the topic as a whole. Daniel McMullen (talk) 03:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

More images
I think there should be a few more images of different types of E-Collars. My dog recently had surgery and she was sent home with a rigid plastic one, and I know there are even more types than just that out there. Connor557 (talk) 13:23, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

cone
is cone -- Tautomers (T C) 04:31, 5 September 2022 (UTC)