Talk:Ergonomic keyboard

Topre
I am not aware of any Topre ergonomic keyboards. The only Topre keyboards I am aware of are the Real Force and HHKB, which I would not classify as Ergonomic. Even if certain Real force keyboards do have "ergonomically" weighted keys, I am more inclined to believe that this is just a marketing strategy. I own one of these keyboards, and its "ergonomic" feats are greatly shadowed by a real ergonomic keyboard such as the Microsoft Natural 4000 Keyboard (which I also own). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.67.136 (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Bill Clinton became President in 1993, and hence could not have passed a bill in 1990 as claimed in section "Keyboard Types". Please fix! 95.208.106.107 (talk) 18:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Why are there no mentions of Kinesis and Maltron keyboards? They are as ergonomic as a keyboard with keys can be. Mentioning Datahand products would also be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.77.71.48 (talk) 16:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, TrulyErgonomic, http://www.trulyergonomic.com/ seems to fit the description very well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.77.71.48 (talk) 19:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Maltron added. Proword (talk) 07:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Considerations entry
I would suggest to rewrite that section. It is full of "may" / "may not" statements that are not backed by any data. A dubious writeup by Jess Johnson is used to back up some claims, even though that writeup doesn't quote any scientific.

Statements like "Ergonomic keyboards may take practice to get used to, and may permanently reduce typing speed." should not be there, as
 * 1) virtually any keyboard may take practice to get used to (try to use a different laptop),
 * 2) where is any data that supports typing speed reduction?

Same for the next statement about taking more space - it applies to any bigger keyboard, nothing to do with an ergonomic one (remember, there are full size keyboards with a set of numeric keys out there, aren't those big ones?).

I am using various 'ergonomic' keyboards for the past about 15 years. I am not connected to any keyboard manufacturer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.140.53.182 (talk) 00:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

"... forcing the mouse to be farther away ..." Some ergonomic keyboards (eg Maltron) have the trackball mounted in between the separate halves of the split keyboard, and they are the same size as those keyboards with no inbuilt trackball.

Proword (talk) 07:32, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Diernisse Keyboard
I've removed the text about the Diernisse keyboard. Wikipedia is not for self-promotion, and the two editors who added the text clearly have some conflict of interest. is almost certainly the son mentioned in the removed text. 04:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Key size
Any info on key sizes? Contribute at Talk:Computer keyboard. Andrewa (talk) 00:32, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Just because it is split, doesn't mean a particular keyboard is ergonomic
It might look "cool on my desk" but it has nothing to do with ergonomics. As long as keys have an asymmetrical offset it is clearly anti-ergonomic I.e. not made for the human anatomy. The only proper examples on this page are Truly and Maltron.

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Other
hybrids
 * DataHand keyboard is a valuable mention
 * anti-RSI keyboards - maybe a different name for ergonomic keyboards. Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 21:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * orbiTouch - Keyless Keyboard, also dubbles as a mouse
 * foot pedals for ergonomic keyboards
 * yogitype keyboard - foldable keyboard, vertical keyboard or "3D keyboard" (also similar is SafeType™ ergonomic keyboard)
 * keymouse alpha - with built in mouse (split keyboard, both pieces act as a mouse)
 * keymouse track - with built in trackballs on both pieces 89.201.184.8 (talk) 23:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Tenting
The "angle split keyboard" section should be updated to include the more common and more intuitive term "tenting." There should also be a photo example, maybe using the ergodox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPD10113519 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


 * The term tenting is common, but I do not agree that it is more intuitive; not everyone will quickly recognize the metaphor of a pup tent, since tents have many other shapes. —Tamfang (talk) 15:30, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

staggered what?
The usage in the article of "staggered rows" and "staggered columns" seems backward. In my view, the rows of the traditional keyboard are staggered, making columns oblique; many ergo keyboards have staggered columns, making rows curved.

Consider another common use of staggered: the terms of U.S.Senators (one-third of whom are elected every two years). No one Senator has a staggered term, it's only in relation to each other that they are staggered. —Tamfang (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I just noticed it when revisiting this article in my lang, and agree with the "staggered rows" and "staggered columns" being reversed. 捍粵者二 (talk) 18:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

tiny boards
There ought to be a section on reduced boards, such as those with only 34-42 keys, which rely on firmware "layers" to access characters other than letters. Where would it fit? —Tamfang (talk) 03:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)