Talk:Excellence in Research for Australia

journal lists
John Vandenberg (chat) 04:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Academic Journals/ERA hca journals
 * WikiProject Academic Journals/ERA pce journals

More info at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Academic_Journals and the two A* lists have been better analysed: John Vandenberg (chat) 09:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Academic Journals/ERA PCE Astar
 * WikiProject Academic Journals/ERA HCA Astar

Formal journal ranking lists are history now.http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/end-of-an-era-journal-rankings-dropped/story-e6frgcjx-1226065864847 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.33.65.98 (talk) 15:06, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

ERA results out
The ERA 2010 results are now out. There is a mix of responses in the news, which we need to integrate. John Vandenberg (chat) 02:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Some possible problems
I feel that this article is overdoing it a bit. For example, I don't see why a complete list of participating institutions is needed (can easily be linked to on the ERA website). Also, as an anonymous IP pointed out in a recent edit summary, the list of the 15 top universities is completely available elsewhere. Apart from a remark "the three top institutions were...", I don't see the need for a table with 15 institutions and their detailed scores on many different criteria. Re-focusing the article on what this is about, rather than the particular results obtained, seems to be a more useful approach. Just my 2 cents... --Crusio (talk) 09:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree about the list of institutions. I suspect that the list is better placed on another article, as the list of institutions that government is fairly consistent across Australian policy and legislation of the Australian higher ed sector.
 * I also agree with removing the table of results, as the aggregate of scores across a cluster is useless, but I must note that I am heavily involved in the ERA process for one of these institutions. Also the 2010 results (and table in the article) are superseded by the 2012 results (for which we dont have a table). John Vandenberg (chat) 04:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Criticisms
A few criticisms that should be included: Aboriginal disciplines are invisible https://novaojs.newcastle.edu.au/ojs/index.php/kulumun/article/viewFile/56/45 ; game playing: http://theconversation.com/strength-in-numbers-do-era-rankings-add-up-for-universities-7493 John Vandenberg (chat) 04:07, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Excellence in Innovation for Australia
The trial of 'Excellence in Innovation for Australia' is probably best included in this article at the moment. https://theconversation.com/universities-to-explain-benefit-of-research-to-end-users-7478 John Vandenberg (chat) 04:08, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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