Talk:Fairey Firefly

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I notice that the same engine and power rating is listed for the Mk I and Mk IV Fireflies in the specification section, but the speed has gone from 316 to 386mph. Only one of those things can be correct. I'll try to find a source and update the article, but if anyone else has that information at hand, please fix! Stacy McMahon 17:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Rolls-Royce engine
The following comment was made at Fairey Firefly on 10 August. It is a personal comment so I have removed it from the article and placed it below. Dolphin ( t ) 12:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I worked at the Fairey Aviation dispersal factory in Brentford for a few months in 1945 and I am certain that the Firefly airframes I saw were fitted with an H form engine which was a Rolls Royce and so I assume it was the Rolls Royce Eaqle. Puffingbilly (talk) 05:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Possibly the Fairey Prince rather than the R-R Eagle?
 * 1945 puts the mockers on lots of things particularly the Prince. The Exe and Eagle were only built in very small numbers and not for production aircraft, which leaves the Sabre, an unlikely fit on a Firefly. I have not read any reference that cites the Sabre fitted to production Fireflys'. It could be that the author saw Blackburn Firebrands, which had Sabres fitted in early versions.Petebutt (talk) 12:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It is possible he saw the Rolls-Royce Fairey Battle 'hack' fitted with a Rolls-Royce Exe engine that was used by RR as a communications aircraft for most of the war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.220.121 (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Demotion
I have de-moted the article because there is a lot of content which is un-referenced. A few in-line citations will do it, but I have no resources available where I am.Petebutt (talk) 12:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Swedish TT.1s at Duxford, and more
"An ex-Swedish Firefly has recently (October 2011) appeared in a hangar at the IWM Duxford, Cambridge. It is believed to be a former target tug brought to the UK for restoration to flying condition." This is SE-BRG. RN serial DT989, c/n F.6071. It was decommissioned by Svensk Flygtjänst in 1964 and bought by Björn Löwgren, later donated to the Swedish Civil Aviation collections. In 2004 the aircraft was sold to the Aircraft Restoration Company and moved to Duxford. Along with SE-BRG, ARC bought a second airframe from Löwgren; SE-CAU, (Ex PP469, c/n 6180). The latter is currently at Leylstad in the Netherlands. A third Swedish TT.1, SE-CAW (Ex PP329, c/n 6121) is at the Danish Air Museum in Stauning. The FR.1 on display at IWM Duxford (Z2033m c/n 5607) also has a history as a target tug with Svensk Flygtjänst, as SE-BRD. decomissioned and returned to Britain in 1964. When it comes to former Ethiopian aircraft, additional airframes were recovered by John Sayers in 1996 from the airbase in Asmara. The exact number and their destiny is not known but there is pictorial evidence that TR.1 IEAF#619 was brought to South Africa by Sayers in 1996 or 1997. Per80 (talk) 19:49, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced/improbable claim
The article states that the Firefly's 4,000 lb. weight increase over the Fulmar was due to its four wing-mounted cannon (rather than the eight Browning machine guns of the Fulmar). That's rather difficult to credit, given that the four Hispano cannon together weighed about 400 lbs., at most 150-200 lbs. more than the eight Brownings they replaced. A heaver ammunition load would probably account for another couple of hundred pounds, but would still not explain a two-ton difference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.12.67 (talk) 05:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The Griffon was heavier than the Merlin so I have corrected the article to include the engine. The rest is probably accounted for in the heavier structure weight (necessary because of the heavier and more powerful engine), and perhaps additional equipment carried, as well as perhaps increased fuel capacity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.173.73 (talk) 11:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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