Talk:Flag football

Play
How exactly do you play flag football? like what are the rules? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.249.85.9 (talk • contribs) 18:16, Apr 18, 2006 (UTC)
 * Exactly like regular football, except instead of tackling someone, you remove one of their flags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.155.222 (talk • contribs) 23:57, Oct 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Some other variations to the rules also due to the size of the teams and fields. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.82.27.131 (talk • contribs) 21:04, Sept 13, 2006 (UTC)
 * 65.82.27.131, Please don't modify others' comments, add your own. --Bdoserror 22:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * why did they come up with that name 71.60.119.170 (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Rewrite
I rewrote this page substantially. At somepoint, the "Basics of the Game" section, which seemed like a useful introduction, had been removed; I put it back. I expanded a bit on "Variations". I also deleted entirely the section on the Worcester (Mass) league as being too regional and not generally useful or noteable. Bikeable 04:16, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Notability for external links
I think the external links section wil get bloated with leagues unless kept to WP:NOTABLE leagues. For now, I would take that to mean national level only, especially as North America probably has hundreds. --Bdoserror 03:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Non-notable competition
I removed the following:
 * One highly competitive flag-football league is the ONCF, based in Scarborough, Ontario, Canada. In the summer of 2006 the ! handily won the championship trophy against the undefeated Rage.  The ! players received several league awards including League Offensive MVP (Andrew Carnell), and Playoff MVP (Sergio Novelo).  Quarterback Chris Greer was selected as the championship MVP.

If someone can provide a citation to back it up, and to show noteworthiness, then it can be replaced. --Bdoserror 03:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Triangle Area Flag Football League
I have removed the following link: As this league doesn't appear particularly notable. Please don't add it back until it's notability is established. --Bdoserror 21:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Triangle Area Flag Football League
 * And also see what Wikipedia is not. --Bdoserror 03:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

First downs
Not all leuges follow preset first downs, some leuges are more simmulier to nfl play in wich you must gain a sertain amount of yards to get a firs down -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.31.103.10 (talk • contribs) 2007-07-27T01:55:11

Hall of Fame
After initially reformatting the entry about the Hall of Fame, I searched and could not find any reference to the "National Flag Football Council" anywhere online, so I have removed the following:
 * A Hall-of-Fame for those leagues is being pondered by officials. The National Flag Football Council has submitted James Scorden of Ca., Dashawn Wright of Fl., Arnold Geoffrey of Indiana, and Luis "Luigi" Orengo of New York for consideration.

-- Bdoserror 16:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Question on notability
xflagfootball is on the west coast, including hawaii. It is not a national league but it is in multiple states and will soon expand to Mexico, thus it would be an international league.

X Flag Football —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.247.37.61 (talk) 04:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

X does have the busiest message board of any league. Does that qualify as notability? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.247.37.61 (talk) 03:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Forums traffic is not a criteria for Notability. See the link for what is. -- Bdoserror (talk) 07:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

An active message board is notable, and the most active messageboard seems like a reason to include it in the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LouPepe (talk • contribs) 19:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because you say it's notable for an acive message board, doesn't mean it's so. Please read the page on notability and then make your case.  Until then, I'll remove the link for now. -- Bdoserror (talk) 19:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh look, someone else beat me to it. -- Bdoserror (talk) 19:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, please sign your comments by putting "~" after them.

Two countries, 3 states, and the most active message board of any flag football league in the world is enough notability for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LouPepe (talk • contribs) 20:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have some independent verifcation of "most active message board of any flag football league in the world"? And that doesn't even mean that's significant.  That could be like being the "the best ballerina in all of Galveston" (to borrow the quote from M*A*S*H) for all I know.
 * As far as "2 countries, 3 states", that isn't backed up by the XFootball's own website -- that looks like two states (CA & HI) and 1 country (USA) to me.
 * Finally, can you find some independent, reliable 2nd hand reference to this league which would lend your claim of notability some credence (per the notability requirements? Maybe a mention on flagfootball.com or some other well known site, or a news story.  Otherwise this looks like vanity (if you're connected to the league) or spam. Please don't add the link back until you can answer these questions or else this may run afoul of the three revert rule, resulting in one or both of us being blocked from editing.  Remember, this is an encyclopedia, not an advertising site. -- Bdoserror (talk) 23:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Obviously there isn't a website that clearly rates messageboards based on their page hits. I've went to many different websites and searched their message boards, x is getting several hundred posts each day! The closest competitor gets less than 10 per day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LouPepe (talk • contribs) 05:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Then this is not verifiable information and is your own original research, 2 things which do not belong on Wikipedia. I'm going to remove it again.  If you really want this link in, please read the links I've provided on what it belongs in Wikipedia.  If you still think that link belongs here, then take it to either an admin or, ultimately, arbitration instead of edit warring.  Seriously, just because you think it's significant doesn't mean it is.  This is an encyclopedia, not a place for anyone to put up their links. -- Bdoserror (talk) 04:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

This article is about flag football. External links to leagues just because they are flag football leagues are not relevant. Forum traffic is also irrelevant to notability or anything else to do with external links. External links here should only link to meritable websites that explain or delve into flag football in authoritative detail that we can't have here in one article. 2005 (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * LouPepe/Sgt dizzle guy Your sockpuppetry does not constitute consensus on on the notability of xfootball.com. Please don't add the link again. - Bdoserror (talk) 21:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I do not know why flagmag.com would be taken off this list. It is an internation flag football website with information regarding flag football rules and plays. The site has been open for ten years. Can someone please tell me what the problem is? Thejimgaudet (talk) 15:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

11 man flag football
I played this variety in an intra-mural league at college in the 1960's, yet this article only mentions 9 and few man versions. Wschart (talk) 19:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

tag football
Flag football is apparently called "tag football" in NZ: http://www.nztagfootball.co.nz/index.php?page=what-is-kiwitag but this is used for "touch football" in the US. --Espoo (talk) 07:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

possible over deletion
A large chunk of this article appears to have been removed, I'm unsure if it should be reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N8 Toe (talk • contribs) 00:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Basic rules
Flag football is a bit of a tricky subject, because there literally hundreds of leagues and each use slightly different variations on things like field dimensions, scoring system, number and gender of players, fumble rules, kicking elements, blocking elements, and so on. Posting your home league's rules is actually misleading, as it does not reflect the diversity of rules out there. To the extent this article has a basic section it would have to include only elements universal to all flag football games--a rectangular field, throwing and catching, touchdowns (but not conversions, as leagues vary on whether they are worth 1 or 2 points, whether there is an option, whether they're returnable, and where they are attempted from), and flag-pulling. Given that I suspect that general language about how flag football differs from traditional and a link to the rule of American football may be a better approach. Certainly interested if others have better ideas though. Thomas Craven (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Merge with Touch Football or Street football (American)?
Touch and flag football are effectively just variations of the same game. The only difference is that tackling is accomplished via flag-pulling or hand-contact. Street football (American) falls under the same umbrella. I see no reason for these not to be combined in a single article. The heading could be any of the three, or something like Non-tackle American football. Otherwise we will have three different versions of the same article varying only with regard to the specifics of what constitutes a tackle. Thomas Craven (talk) 15:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Canadian flag football
I assume that the Canadian Flag Football League plays by a ruleset more in line with Canadian football. If so, shouldn't the intro say "Flag football is a variant of American and Canadian football"? Or include Canadian football in SOME way. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 21:37, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Found a rule book for Canadian flag football and it uses 3 downs, just like Canadian football. I've added a quick note to the lead, could probably be done better. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 21:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)