Talk:Flatulence/Archive 3

well, no?
missing citation that demonstrates: activated carbon does NOT help to remove/avoid/whatsoever flatulence is in suarez et al., 1999 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9934757), free PDF for download available. dr. m. hoffmann — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.206.168.4 (talk) 13:29, 7 February 2012 (UTC)


 * reworked to reflect these findings. Seems there are only a few papers that report benefit with charcoal, most say it is totally ineffective.23_2&#123;(SBST:SU:m.&#125;&#125; (talk)

REMOVE THAT PICTURE NOW
The picture of the Pope in the beginning is VERY offensive to the Roman Catholic Church and if someone does not remove it soon I will sue for anti race. THAT IS VERY offensive. Fawtzzz (talk) 19:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Who exactly do you hope to intimidate with your legal threat? I understand that you are upset, but please remember that Wikipedia is written by a community of millions with many differing viewpoints. Wikipedia is not censored and does contain objectionable material. Please click those links for more information.
 * That said, you may have a case for whether this image is the best way for Wikipedia to illustrate flatulence, but legal threats are not the way to go about it. It might be best if you come back a bit later, take a different tone, and you might find people willing to listen. ~ Kimelea (talk) 20:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not religious, but I feel that this picture does not add anything to the article and should be removed. Perhaps a more relevant picture would be a diagram of intestinal gas dynamics, altered gas distribution in a patient complaining of bloating or a pie chart illustrating the average composition of flatus?23_2&#123;(SBST:SU:m.&#125;&#125; (talk) 22:11, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a way to hide disturbing things on Wikipedia by hiding certain images. See Help:Options to hide an image. I don't know if the image at the beginning qualities as a bad image. You can also hide all images if you want. Cwater1 (talk) 00:25, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Another way to not see the image is to not visit the article. If you feel offended by any image, avoid the article that the said image is in.Cwater1 (talk) 00:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Catholicism is not a race, it's a religion. Also, there are no laws in the US making it illegal to make offensive depictions of Catholicism -- and I'm not sure there are such laws anywhere else. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the picture isn't tasteless. I'm just saying you have no basis to sue that I know of. Also, it's a simple matter to remove the image yourself and follow arbitration procedures if the image is put back. - furrykef (Talk at me) 13:51, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I am glad that the picture has not been removed, and it is not simply because WP should not be reacting to unfounded and religious threats (what is the difference between this threat and threats done by other religious fanatics?). My claim for this picture to stay is on its historical value. How often do you see cultural elements of the past, hidden for too long from most mainstream histories, which represent the daily lives of people in this way? Now, to make it more balanced, it would be complete with a similar picture, referring to flatulence, but pro-Catholic. Historiador (talk) 04:28, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


 * it is a contempt of religion when - through a summary and gratuitous judgment - you manifest an attitude of contempt towards the Catholic religion, disavowing the institution and its essential components (dogmas and rites) the reasons of value and merit recognized by the community, and becomes a mere offense for its own sake. Cass. pen. n. 41044/2015 (In the case, the Supreme Court considered the evaluation of the trial judge to be correct, who had recognized the crime referred to in Article 403 of the Criminal Code in the conduct of the accused who had created and exhibited a triptych depicting the Pope in the center of Milan and his personal secretary next to a penis with testicles with the caption "Who among you is not a fag cast the first stone").

biogas from waste not related to flatulence
The last paragraph under "Environmental Impact" is about a biogas project but has nothing to do with flatulence and should be removed. Skmacksler (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? It has everythng to do with farting. Cows fart - fact! Their fart contains methane - fact! Methane is used as fuel, among other things. Makes perfect sense to have that here. GMRE (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Aerophagia is considered a rare cause of flatulence
This article was plain wrong when it states that nitrogen and environmental air are the greatest components of flatus. 74% of the volume of flatus (when expelled from the anus) is intra-lumenal, not swallowed. In normal subjects, virtually all swallowed air is expelled by eructation, and does not move through the gut. It is most misleading when it discusses aerophagia as the leading cause of flatulence. Read the research please.23_2&#123;(SBST:SU:m.&#125;&#125; (talk) 15:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

The word "flatulence"
isn't, according to various sources, equivalent to f**ting, it's refers to the "production or presence" of (an excess of) gases, or the cause of f**ting. 37.190.158.177 (talk) 19:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * TY for the comment. I think its appropriate that we include both non medical (e.g. the above quoted definitions) and medical definitions. I will search for the most commonly quoted medical definition. At the risk of over medicalization, this is not entirely a medical subject, it has cultural importance etc, and the article should reflect this.23_2&#123;(SBST:SU:m.&#125;&#125; (talk) 22:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Flatulence ignition
Citation needed that flatulence can be ignited: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart_lighting — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.133.197.50 (talk) 05:51, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I have ignited my farts, and such videos are You Tube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.40.30.228 (talk) 01:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

circular definition in first sentence
The second definition of flatulence is defined in terms of 'flatulent,' which is immediately afterwards defined in terms of 'flatulence.' 96.241.150.64 (talk) 11:09, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * 2 definitions of flatulence from popular medical dictionaries are quoted, to show that there is no fixed definition. One of these definitions uses the term flatulent. Flatulent however redirects to this article, so there is a definition of that too. If anyone finds any more suitable definitions, this would be good. lesion (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Thi dictionary cited is not medical reference. The word "medical" should be deleted from the lede. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 April 2013
Please correct spelling of word "funcitonal" to "functional" in section "Management", subsection "Pain, bloating and abdominal distension".

Captzucchini (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done RudolfRed (talk) 01:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

 * I propose this article be merged into the Fart article and then renamed to Farting. For obvious reasons.
 * I also propose that the picture be replaced by one that has a superior capacity to not only offend and general, but to offend more people and cultures at the same time. For the lols. :D
 * And why is there no list of sicknesses that are known to cause this? I'm sure there must be some. GMRE (talk) 17:54, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Read the hatnote on the article you are proposing to merge, and you will see why they are separate articles, this is mainly a medical page.
 * Oppose deliberately including "a more offensive image" on these grounds: Offensive_material As it is the image we have is barely linked to this topic, and think we could have a better diagram illustrating how flatus is formed in the GI tract or something.
 * Your last point is actually constructive (some of your comments on this page demonstrate that you do not know what article talk pages are for, e.g. they are not a forum where you can write "lol" after something you find funny), the article could benefit with such a table/list or better yet a section. I know things like ulcerative colitis are sometimes described as being associated with flatulence. Lesion  ( talk ) 20:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request to Normal flatus volume and intestinal gas dynamics section
Last sentence of first paragraph:

"This process it thought not to affect solid and liquid intra-lumenal contents."

Please change "it" to "is".
 * Fixed. Bazonka (talk) 19:15, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 July 2013
Under the "Physiology" section a sentence states, "Methane and hydrogen are flammable" but that is not where a "[citation needed]" tag appears. It appears after, "and so flatus containing adequate amounts of these can be ignited." I know for a fact (and probably almost everybody else) that flatus (farts) can be ignited. If the tag is not removed, at least move the tag or place a proper descriptive remark (hover over) on the tag.

ENWatson (talk) 06:47, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please provide a source showing that flatulence can be ignited. -- TOW  talk   19:00, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2013
Consider changing methyl mercaptan (MM, methanethiol, MT) to methyl mercaptan (MM), methanethiol (MT)

50.173.138.119 (talk) 07:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Thanks, but your proposed change would falsely imply that methyl mercaptan and methanethiol are different chemicals, rather than different names for the same chemical. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Augustine quote
I checked the Augustine quote. He is not saying people lost the farting ability because of the sin of Adam and Eve. He clearly states that as we can see people are very differently constituted and there are those who can control their farting to make a singing noise.

If humans lost the power to do that because of Adam and Eve, why is Augustine addressing the phenomenon in his present tense and indicating it as an observable phenomenon that "we've all seen." The jack-off who added the material about losing the ability because of eating the fruit in the Garden of Eden is just twisting the text to make it sound more ridiculous than it is. This hardly advances knowledge to lie about ancient text content for a cheap laugh. That's lowbrow humour, equivalent to a fart joke. In fact, it is a fart joke, but also poor scholarship. Can someone please edit that stupid second line out. I don't know how to edit the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.16.53 (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think that's a misreading of the text (translation available here, Chapter 24). I've removed the disputed line.  (For the record, it was added in this edit by, not a vandal, back in 2007, and seems to have been an error made in good faith. Nice work noticing this after it stood for over 6 years.) Yes check.svg Done, thanks.  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2014
"Hydrogen Sulphide"

15petedc (talk) 23:03, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. – Wdchk (talk) 04:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I suspect that 15petedc is drawing a distinction between 'sulfide' as used in the USA and 'sulphide' as more commonly used in the rest of the (Anglophone) world. 92.87.28.5 (talk) 13:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah. Then we would not want to make a change, for reasons that are explained at MOS:RETAIN and in the lead of the article Hydrogen sulfide. – Wdchk (talk) 14:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Wet flatulence
Wet flatulence are commonly theorized the result of bacterial infection or from eating too much. The problem is treated as if diarrhea, with anti-diarrhea medicines, eating less, and drinking enough water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibyling (talk • contribs) 07:38, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Interesting idea, but those are all notoriously unreliable sources. I'm not sure if a factoid like that has a place in the article at all, but if it does we need better than Urban Dictionary and Yahoo Answers. Alt lys er svunnet hen (talk) 06:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

"Flatus" redirects here
This should be said at the outset, but I don't know how to put it there. I hope I remember to thank whoever does this. deisenbe (talk) 19:06, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you mean "flatus" should be mentioned in a hatnote? Normally a hatnote would be added to this article if there was a possibility that the reader arrived here actually looking for something else. Do you consider this to be the case? Otherwise, the fact that "flatus" is mentioned prominently in the lead ought to be sufficient to explain why the redirect brought the reader here. – Wdchk (talk) 15:35, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2015
1. In the first line, I believe "....in the medical terminology...." sounds awkward. Maybe remove the "the."

2. In the "religious significance" section, the word "vslid" is probably misspelled.... Unless it is something Arabic I cannot decipher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.173.46.165 (talk) 00:49, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

1. Not done: The statement you seem to be referring to is actually "Flatulence is defined in the medical literature ..." and this is a perfectly normal reference to the body of knowledge in a medical or academic field. 2. Done: I am supposing the intended word was "valid". Thank you for pointing this out. – Wdchk (talk) 02:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2015
In the religious significance section: Farts invalidates Wudu, but its not required to clean the anus. Doing a fresh wudu is sufficient. Source: Same reference source #51.

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2016
Remove 'lowbrow' from 'especially lowbrow comedies such as Blazing Saddles.' in 'Farting as entertainment'.

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2016
please change "In Sunni Islam, flatulence invalidates wudu (ritual purity) and the anus must be cleansed with water before prayer in order for it to be valid." to "In Islam, flatulence invalidates wudu (ritual purity) " because:

In Islam flatulence invalidates wudu and muslim should make a new wudu before Salah but he doesn't need to wash his anal

Sources:

1- I am a muslim living in Egypt and was born Muslim.

2- Arabic sources: http://fatwa.islamweb.net/fatwa/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=56843 http://ar.islamway.net/fatwa/11080/%D8%A5%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D8%AE%D8%B1%D8%AC-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AD-%D9%81%D9%87%D9%84-%D9%8A%D8%AC%D8%A8-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A1 http://www.awqaf.gov.ae/Fatwa.aspx?SectionID=9&RefID=4012 http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=169993 http://www.binbaz.org.sa/fatawa/4261

3- English sources: http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2011/11/30/is-washing-filth-from-the-private-parts-istinja-necessary-after-passing-gas/ http://islamqa.org/hanafi/qibla-hanafi/36238

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The result of the move request was: Not moved per snowball clause. clpo13(talk) 19:53, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Flatulence → farting – More common name. 99.101.56.68 (talk) 14:50, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
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