Talk:Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts

Updates for your consideration
Full disclosure: I work for Four Seasons Corporate and would like to suggest amendments for accuracy. I'm providing some external sources when available:

Intro: Conde Nast Traveler's Reader's Choice 2009 http://www.concierge.com/tools/travelawards/readerschoice/top100
 * suggestion to quote more recent rankings:
 * 1) 1 in Top 100 Hotels

JD Power 2009 http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009133 The following hotel brands rank highest in guest satisfaction within their respective segments: Luxury: Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts

Under History: Proposed copy: "With the opening of its first full-service spa at Four Seasons Resort and Club Dallas at Las Colinas in 1986, the brand has made spa an integral part of its offering. Currently operating 65 Spas in 25 countries, Four Seasons employs more than 1,300 therapists and staff, who are charged with integrating Four Seasons signature service into an environment of well-being and relaxation."
 * Not all Four Seasons Hotels have a Spa, although all can offer Spa services through local partners.

Proposed copy: "One owner of a hotel in the Four Seasons chain entered arbitration with the company; in March 2009, the owner of the Four Seasons Resort Aviara attempted to revolt: The owner entered the hotel management offices, seized documents and changed locks before attempting to void the contract with Four Seasons. In response, the Four Seasons management opted to hold its ground and prevent the owner's designated replacement management team from entering the property. An arbitration is ongoing.[3]"
 * Only one owner has entered arbitration, not several as stated in the contribution.

Under Philanthropy:
 * The CSR commitments are stated on the main website at http://www.fourseasons.com/about_us/corporate_values/ as well as referenced in many media stories:

Financial Post – Most Admired Corporates: #2 Four Seasons http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1024072 “A company taskforce targets three areas if CSR: community support, environmental sustainability and cancer research.”Corporate social responsibility is a big focus for us. We're a very philanthropic organization both monetarily and in our time and effort," Ms. Taylor says. The company is the main sponsor of the Terry Fox run, and raised $7-million in 2007. Four Seasons also has an active green council that works to eliminate water bottles, pumps up the company's recycling program, tackles electrical and heating inefficiencies, as well as other environmental issues.” (Wednesday, December 03, 2008)

Smalltweaks (talk) 19:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Four Seasons Triad
It's a funny thing the hotel in New York city was designed by a Chinese guy yet the Four Seasons Hotel chains have an uncanny resemblence to the Four Seasons Triads by name. As you might not know, the Triads are Chinese organized crime groups. I'm for the Russian mafia though. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.202.100 (talk) 14:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Ownership vs. Management
The presentation may be misleading. Although some of the listed sites are owned by Four Seasons, most are only managed by them.

Photo is too large.
Photo is too large.--Gkklein 18:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Which one? Luke! 20:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Controversies
Changed wording to say Robin Paterson and Mike Pemberton are developing Resort in Grenada instead of Four Seasons as Four Seasons is a management company and not an ownership company.

This section needs references to have any chance of being NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.215.11 (talk) 20:31, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

"Puffery"
Hi. I've been removing a section that User:Sharpd0526 has been adding. It begins, When founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer Isadore Sharp founded Four Seasons Hotels, Inc. over 40 years ago, he had an idea that would become revolutionary in the hotel business: around the clock personalized service for business and world travelers... This feels to me like marketing or advertising material -- puffery -- rather than encyclopedic. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 02:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Four Seasons Hotels history
Sorry, my intention is not puffery. I think this article needs a history section, as many hotel chain articles such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_Mark seem to be made up entirely of the history section. I do see your point that it sounds too promotional, and I am going through it now to remove anything non-encyclopedic. Thanks! David M. Sharp 15:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Boost for FourSeasons? Celebs seen buying up the chain's Barbados villas.
Four Seasons' Barbados resort is getting much attention of International Celebs.
 * Lucian Grange, chairman of Universal Studios;
 * composer, Lord and Lady Webber;
 * Simon Cowell, of American Idol fame, are listed as owners of the properties which range from US$5 million to US$17 million. - CaribDigita 14:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

COI Tag
Please see Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Please do not remove the COI tag until you have thoroughly checked the article. Please leave a note at WP:COIN if you clean up the article. Thank you. - Jehochman Talk 04:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Could someone please explain just which editor has the conflict of interest? Corvus cornix 17:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, please, I'll echo that -- the link immediately above doesn't seem to lead to anything that has relevance to this specific situation. I removed a couple of speedy tags yesterday on Four Seasons articles that I didn't feel were appropriate because the articles had third-party citations demonstrating notability, but I left the COI tags in place because I did no editing.  I'd like to know more about this "sophisticated paid editing scheme", though, to make me confident that I did the right thing.  Accounting4Taste 19:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Since nobody has explained just who the COI editor is, I've removed the coi tag. Corvus cornix 23:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I wasn't the one who placed the COI tag, but in looking at the article history User:Brandonc.seo and User:Sharpd0526 leap out. See this thread especially for info on the latter. Raymond Arritt 23:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

78 hotels
Four Seasons operates 78 hotels, a number cited at their website. Before reverting my edit, please provide a citation for another number.--Work permit (talk) 18:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Inaccurate image
Australia is not shaded in the image. But there is a four seasons in Sydney. http://www.fourseasons.com/sydney/ 124.179.110.239 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC).

Saint Petersburg
In 2009, it was reported that the Lobanov-Rostovsky Residence would be renovated for the Four Seasons. Anyone who can confirm this with better sources and/or update on status? Thanks, /Urbourbo (talk) 12:58, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Hawaii Is Not Part of 'North America'
Hawaii Is Not Part of so-called North America! It is in Polynesia. It is both factually incorrect and imperialist to claim that it is part of the so-called Americas.

Bill Gates is the Key person in 2022
As of 2022 Bill Gates owns 71.25% of the Four Seasons, the founder and CEO are no longer the key people. Thinspo (talk) 11:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)