Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Companies

Requested move at Talk:Aksa (company)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Aksa (company) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 13:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Proposed infobox for corporate groupings
I've been working on an infobox for corporate groupings, though I'm not entirely certain if there is a proper name for them. This would come in especially handy for articles such as Big Tech, Big Four accounting firms, and perhaps other corporate group sorts too, such as the Baby Bells, or (to a lesser extent) cartels such as the Phoebus cartel. Labels would include logos, focus location (Silicon Valley for Big Tech, Michigan for the Big Three in automobile manufacturers e.g.), major companies, minor companies, sector, related groups, and so on. Template:Infobox company does not suffice in providing this information currently.

Does anyone have any comments on what this phenomenon should be called and how a proper infobox should flow from this? TheNk22 (talk) 18:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to take a look but do not see the template. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

New page for A&O Shearman
Hi all, I’m hoping someone can help with a new Wikipedia page please. From May 1, the law firms Allen & Overy and Shearman & Sterling will merge to become A&O Shearman. I work for Kekst CNC, a communications agency that is working with both law firms ahead of their merger in May.

We're engaging as a member of the Wikipedia community having signed the official agency/Wikipedia agreement set out here Statement_on_Wikipedia_from_participating_communications_firms. This means we follow guidelines, most importantly understanding we have COI, meaning we let members of the Wikipedia community decide (or not decide) to make changes for us.

With the launch of the new firm, a new Wikipedia page will need to be set up. We’ll be submitting a draft after 1 May due to legal requirements. We have two questions:

1.     What should happen to the existing A&O and S&S pages on Wikipedia? We can include this content in a merged draft for A&O Shearman if this is the right process.

2.     Please can an editor review our draft once made available in May please?

Thanks. MichaelPWhite (talk) 16:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * , thanks for the questions. First, there does not "need" to be a new page set up, per se. The creation of a new page depends on notability. Is the new firm notable on its own. Is it a true merger or is one acquiring the other? There are many caveats and what sources say will determine the best route (merger pages, creation of a redirect, new page, etc.). You are free to create a draft and someone will review but it may not be necessary depending. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * , I see that A&O Shearman was created by user on May 3, 2024. Seeking your opinions about whether the other two should be merged into the new or if the new one is even necessary. I see a lot of routine coverage for A&O Shearman but nothing that really amounts to WP:ORGCRIT.  --CNMall41 (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @CNMall41 Thank you for pointing that out.
 * @MichaelPWhite The Page is already up on Wikipedia. I shall stop any further edits regarding the company. Thank you. Zotezangu (talk) 08:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see it exists. I am hoping for your opinion. Was going to recommend for deletion but wanted to discuss if there was a better path first. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks all - we've added some suggested copy to the talk page of the new A&O Shearman page. If someone would be able to review, that would be much appreciated! Linked here for ease: Talk:A&O Shearman MichaelPWhite (talk) 09:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @CNMall41 @Zotezangu Hi both - I was wondering if either of you could help with my request above? I would really appreciate your review of the suggested copy that we have put on the A&O Shearman talk page. Thanks! MichaelPWhite (talk) 07:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I am still wondering if the page is necessary or if there needs to be a merge of the others. I think that is the first issue to tackle. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @CNMall41 – thanks for coming back on this. What are the parameters that would define whether it’s a merge of the page, or whether more information can be added to the new page? MichaelPWhite (talk) 11:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Help with Chime article
Hi! I'm an employee of Chime. I posted an edit request on the article's Talk page. Would anyone here be interested in reviewing my proposed changes to clean up some single-sentence paragraphs? Thanks in advance! Chime rep DB (talk) 21:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see this was completed already. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Asking for help with Fastly edit request
Hi there, I'm a Fastly employee wondering if anyone here would be available to field an active edit request on the company Talk page. My request contains a draft for a new Acquisitions section, which I think will improve the article by organizing all pertinent information about purchases the company has made over the last few years. The link to the request is here, if you want to take a look. Thank you in advance to any independent editors who help out with the review process! Jagger at Fastly (talk) 19:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Responded on the talk page. I apologize as I see the original request was made there a month ago. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Gulf & Atlantic Railways
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Gulf & Atlantic Railways that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:18, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Sam Yagan edit request
Hello to all,

I would like to alert editors on WikiProject Companies to an open edit request I have. The request is to update the article on OkCupid co-founder Sam Yagan at Talk:Sam_Yagan. This is to add a subsection on Yagan's company Corazon Capital. I made this request on behalf of Yagan through my work at Corazon Capital. Thank you for considering. CBCorazon (talk) 18:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Partially implemented. See the talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:HP Inc.
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:HP Inc. that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Encyclopedic value of having ranking badge about companies
Like "the second best place to work in..." "the largest x in y sector based in z locality". As I was checking out sources for Hoffman Construction Company, I noticed one source says "the eighth largest general contractor in the Portland metro ranked by billings" (https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2024/01/19/hoffman-construction-lake-oswego-downtown-portland.html) and another article from the same source says " the second-largest general contractor in the Portland metro." (https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2019/04/10/breaking-the-silence-construction-workers-are-at.html). Both articles are likely correct given for the conditional parameters in place. Do such ranking have encyclopedic value and should it even be included in company articles? Graywalls (talk) 03:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , I think some rankings do. However, we probably shouldn't go that far down the rabbit hole. For example, saying "eighth largest general contractor by billing in Portland" is something the company would want people to know, but would people reading Wikipedia really want to know that? For example, I used it on MCR Hotels to say it is the fourth largest hotel operator by room count in the U.S. as that is something on a much larger scale. I would NOT include something like "3rd largest operator of hotels with pools in Miami" (I made that up - no idea if they do). I think it would be a COMMONSENSE judgement but cannot see how being 8th in a metropolitan area for anything is encyclopedic. Just my 2 cents. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * And actually I just changed it as this from a Forbes staff writer says 3rd largest. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

USPS Deliveries section edit request
Hello everybody, I'm here to draw in feedback on an edit request I've made over on the USPS Talk page. For full transparency, I have a COI, which you can read a bit about on my Talk page. I'm looking for feedback on an edit request for the article's Deliveries section, which would update some figures for mail delivery statistics that are outdated. To any editors with questions, feel free to ping me, and I'll be standing by to respond. I see that the editor CNMall41 has been helpful recently in replying to requests, so I'll ping you here. Thank you so much for taking the time to read. Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 13:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Back on this thread to update that an editor has come by and implemented my request. However, I'm still seeking feedback on my Delivering for America subsection edit request. If any editors have the time to head over there and evaluate that request, that would be fantastic. I'll be around to respond if there are any questions. There's been much discussion on the request already, and I've implemented feedback from editors, so I believe the draft is in a great place but needs additional review at this time. Jonathan with U.S. Postal Service (talk) 16:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Amazon request on Global Strategy Group Talk page
Hello there! I'm Aaron, an employee at the political consulting and polling firm Global Strategy Group. I'm reaching out on behalf of the firm to ask editors at this WikiProject if they would be interested in reviewing an edit request we have placed to update GSG's article's Amazon subsection. The goal of the request (linked here) is to add relevant information about what GSG did following the incidents already described in the subsection. These additions are pretty modest and shouldn't take too much time for editors to review. If anyone here could help me out, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks, Aaron for GSG (talk) 15:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Seeking feedback on Index Ventures History edit request
Hi! I'm an Index Ventures employee, and I posted an edit request to the article's Talk page to try and update the History section. If any editors have the time to check out this request, I'd appreciate it greatly. Kelsey at Index (talk) 15:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi User:CNMall41. I see you've been active on this page. I was hoping you'd be interested in peeking at my edit request I linked to above on the Index Ventures Talk page. Thanks so much! Kelsey at Index (talk) 21:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Sam Yagan request: Excelerate Labs and IAC information
Hello again,

Thank you to editors here for implementing the last request. I have another open edit request on the article about Sam Yagan at Talk:Sam_Yagan. This is to add some information about some of Yagan's previous companies. I made this request on behalf of Yagan through my work at Corazon Capital. Thank you for considering. CBCorazon (talk) 16:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Who the founders are of merged banks
Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, UBS, Citigroup, NationsBank are examples of bank that have been formed by mergers. The founders in the infobox of them are the CEOs who happen to be in charge when the mergers occured. I would like to ask if this is acceptable to put it like this or would it be considered extrapolation on the level WP:OR. Right now I cannot really see the sources that explicitly call them "founders".  Imcdc  Contact  04:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

- Pinging user to share his POV


 * They shouldn't have founders listed in that case. Merging two companies together is not the same as founding a company. Not every infobox field needs to be filled in. Toohool (talk) 14:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed.
 * Probably an RFC was unnecessary, but we may as well see how it goes. Please make sure to notify each of those article talk pages of this centralised discussion. — HTGS (talk) 20:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The founders of a company are the ones most directly responsible for its formation. If the CEOs of the pre-merger companies negotiated and oversaw the merger giving rise to an entirely new company, then they meet this qualification.Emiya1980 (talk) 02:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't each individual page have an Rfc devoted to this matter? What is good for the editors of one page will most likely diverge from the opinions of those associated with another.Emiya1980 (talk) 03:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If we find reason to treat some articles as having different needs to others, then we can discuss each of those separately, but I doubt we will find that five different discussions are necessary. — HTGS (talk) 03:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks like stretching the evidence. CEOs are not normally the majority owners of a large company, let alone a bank. While they may own stock, they are primarily professionals hired to run the affairs by the shareholders (equity owners, bondholders) who control the company. The CEOs may be trusted with taking the initiative, but are ultimately responsible to those who hired them and will be expected to consult key decisions such as mergers with them. JP Morgan Chase only list the original founders as "founders". VampaVampa (talk) 03:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * VampaVampa One problem though. Nearly all the figures that are referenced have been dead for almost a century at the time of JPMOrgan Chase's formation. So they can't be really called that company's actual founders, can they? Emiya1980 (talk) 03:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, I am not saying we should accept the forefathers as founders - just pointing out that the bank in question prefers us not to know about its recent history. But as others have said, it is fine to draw a blank in the absence of information on who actually decided the mergers. VampaVampa (talk) 11:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Stick to the predecessor(s) field for such mergers and leave out the founders field. Also MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE says an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored. Some of the founders listed in the BoA and JPM infoboxes for example have no mentions in the body, likely because as Imcdc pointed out this is just extrapolation and we are not going to find sources that would call them founders. Ptrnext (talk) 05:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: Agree with several above, remove the founders infobox field for these banks all together, they are generally not the result of one merger but of several; and its confusing, A.P. Giannini is both famous for and what you get when you google founder of Bank of America, and no he was not involved in that merger, and it is true that these merger are not the same as just buying another company, rather they took a name or brand, someone else founded, and sometimes a different post-merger name, and then that changes again. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 10:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that those CEOs are not meaningfully founders. Where we can straightforwardly provide the founders of predecessor CEOs, we could, e.g.:
 * J.X. Ample (Fooian Bank)
 * Jimbo Wales (First Bank of Foo)
 * But we can also just leave that parameter blank. --BDD (talk) 18:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. Founder in this context is meaningless. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 10:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Remove the "founders" from the infobox. Founders are more popularly thought of as creators of a company from scratch. In all the news articles of mergers over the years, I have never heard of CEOs of merging companies referred to as "founders". If CEOs' names are reported on in the references in relation to a merger, this factoid could be included in the History subsection of company articles. Occasionally, a list of former CEOs of a company might be noteworthy or appropriate, but that also is relative to individual articles. CEOs involved in merger process are primarily serving as business functionaries, and not otherwise noteworthy due to the merger happening. WmLawson (talk) 18:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @WmLawson Yup, I second this and 100% agree. Founders are from scratch. The founders of merged banks should be traced back to their predecessors and if their predecessor was a merged bank, which is the case for NationsBank then all the way to the first entity. That would be the founder. A CEO is just the top job at the end of the day, but still a job. Alexysun (talk) 17:02, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Disney Junior
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Disney Junior that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 00:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lineage Logistics
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lineage Logistics that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 21:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:ABC News
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:ABC News that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 11:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Independent editor review for Sysco History draft
Hey there! I'm a Sysco employee looking to make improvements to the company article. I currently have an edit request on the Sysco Talk page that invites editors to review a rewrite of the History section. In this draft, I try to better organize the section, substantiate claims with quality sources, and add new information about the company, particularly its first few decades of operation. One editor has already taken a look at the draft and revised it slightly, and they said I should reach out to other editors to get their feedback, so that we can form a solid consensus. The draft/request is linked here. Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to review! KM at Sysco (talk) 22:06, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Chime edit request
Hi! I'm looking for editors to review another request of mine for the Chime (company) article. I'm an employee of the company so I don't make direct changes. This time, I've posted suggestions for adding context and history from recent reporting by Forbes. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks! Chime rep DB (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Allspark (company)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Allspark (company) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 08:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Avia
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Avia that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk</b> 08:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Apollo Global Management
Apollo Global Management has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster  (trout me!)  11:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Merge of business and companies WikiProjects
Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Business. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 18:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Notability discussions regarding Survival Records
There is a discussion taking place on Talk:Survival_Records. Opinions / guidance would be greatly appreciated. Graywalls (talk) 07:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Request to remove COI tag on the Valiant TMS page
Hi there,

I noticed the Valiant TMS draft had a Conflict of Interest tag. I'm the main editor of this page and a current employee at Valiant TMS. I've rewritten the content to make sure that it has a neutral point of view and free from advertising language. I'm requesting to have this tag removed as the issue has been fixed. Thanks. AliceMaiAnh (talk) 20:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Y.Chroma
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Y.Chroma and assessing it per WP:NORG? The article was created directly in the mainspace yesterday (possibly by a COI or PAID editor) and never seems to have been reviewed. Even though it's a relatively short article, it has 30 citations and none of them seem (at least at first glance) to meet WP:CORPDEPTH, but the number of citations could be an unintentional attempt to WP:NOTEBOMB. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

contains 3 different unrelated topics, 2 of them car companies. That's a problem, since it is not a topic article, but a grabbag of independent topics that share a name. There are also other automotive topics not in this article called Pilot listed at Pilot (disambiguation). -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 07:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC) 65.92.247.96 (talk) 07:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Update: This has been split into 3 artricles -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 03:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Dean Witter Reynolds
Dean Witter Reynolds has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster  (trout me!)  08:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Covanta
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Covanta that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Edits! Talk! 23:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)