Talk:Frederik Pohl

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As far as I know, "Frederik" is the more commonly used spelling of Pohl's first name.

-Joel Schlosberg


 * Indeed it is. I was just checking it myself after the main article popped up on the Recent Changes Here's a picture of one of his book covers, with his C-less name displayed on it:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312875274/qid=1010780542/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_75_1/104-4500891-1083956

Paul Drye

Tiberius

 * Section heading inserted 2013-09-03 -P64

Moved from article: "His missing word here??? work is the biography of the Roman emperor Tiberius for the Encyclopedia Britannica."

I moved it because it looks as though someone was copying another document, and made a mistake. Vicki Rosenzweig


 * Pohl is the "primary contributor" of the entry in Britannica Academic Edition.
 * I suppose he covered Tiberius for a print edition years ago and "primary contributor" indicates that it has been revised by staff, perhaps in consultation with an expert but not so much to merit a co-author.
 * If the missing word is a superlative such as "first published" or "favorite", that is something we should very much desire to know.
 * At AbeBooks.com one seller lists 5 copies of (Ballantine, 1960) by Ernst Mason --"science fiction author Frederik Pohl under a pseudonym!"
 * --P64 (talk) 14:50, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Missing work...

 * Plague of Pythons (1965)
 * The Day the Martians Came (novel, and also a short: see http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/pohl/pohl1.html)


 * "The Last Theorem" with Arthur C. Clarke. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/07/26/nosplit/boextract126.xml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.129.1 (talk) 00:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Those are now listed -P64

youth
Fred Pohl did not attend Bronx Science, nor did isaac Asimov, as was implied. According to the intro to an interview done with Pohl in Locus Magazine in 2000(http://www.locusmag.com/2000/Issues/10/Pohl.html), Pohl attended Brooklyn Tech and dropped out before graduating. He may indeed have started a lifelong friendship with Isaac Asimov during that time, but Asimov went to Boys High in Brooklyn. I reworded the paragraph accordingly. Unfortunately this misinformatin has been picked up in other places on the web - hopefully it wil be corrected.Tvoz 19:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I just corrected the article again. Though this time it said that both Pohl and Asimov went to Brooklyn Tech.  I changed it to note that he started his friendship with Asimov as a Teenage.  I think somebody may have tried to clean it up once, but got mixed up and said that they both went to the same high school.  Hopefully it stays fixed.  David Reiss (talk) 20:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Karen
Frederik Pohl did not father Karen, as stated. She was the daughter of Carol Ulf Stanton and her father was L. Jerome Stanton, whom I married after his divorce from Carol. So Karen was Fred's stepdaughter. Harriet Stanton-Leaffer Tealstar (talk) 14:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * This is confirmed by Pohl on his blog. I've removed her from the entry. 75.56.54.171 (talk) 19:58, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Video game
There's a video game called Gateway, based on Frederik Pohl's novels. Not sure if that should be listed on his page. --C1782T919ML (talk) 00:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Not a member of the Trap Door Spiders
According to Pohl's blog, at "The Trapdoor Spiders", he was not a member. I have taken out the statement that he was. Goldfarbdj (talk) 06:04, 23 June 2011 (UTC)goldfarbdj

Unknown Information about Fred
I have some information about Fred that isn't known, since of the coherent witnesses, only Fred and myself are still alive. I'll be happy to supply my write up to Wikipedia after Fred has passed along, and the issue is no longer 'contentious.' I don't know whether Fred would consider it contentious, though I suspect not. He doesn't know me, other than meeting me that once, twenty years ago. He knew that I was in the room at the time, and didn't consider my presence an issue. There were complications which meant that I was incapable of leaving, when I tell the full story you will understand. Contact me and I'll pass the write up on to Wikipedia. UrbanTerrorist (talk) 03:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

National Book Award ?
Jem did not win the National Book Award (or even receive a nomination) according to Wikipedia's list of NBA winner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.132.66 (talk) 18:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it did, in the one-year category Science Fiction (1980, the year after publication). Visit the given reference or our List of winners of the National Book Award and search 'Jem'. -P64

✅ promptly with long delay reporting here. --P64 (talk) 21:26, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

full time or full-time?
Check this:

Is anyone else with me on this: that in this context it's "full time" not "full-time"?

My argument is: you say "Fred Pohl is a full-time writer" because "full-time" is one of those compound adjectives which grows a hyphen. But you say: "Fred Pohl writes full time", that is "he writes all the time". In that context I believe it should not be hyphenated.

Any grammarians out there? --Matt Westwood 20:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Here's some backup: --Matt Westwood 20:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * My own preference is full-time leaning to fulltime. Our article full-time suggests to me that the hyphen may be ok as an adjective too, regarding employment (works full-time), if not in this article (doing it full time).
 * Your general distinction between uses is correct but whether to hyphenate the one is a matter of style. Does wikipedia mandate one style?
 * Where there is no ambiguity it's common to use the two-word term (no hyphen). Indeed I would say it's common where there is ambiguity (gay rights activist, high school teacher).
 * On the other hand we still have ... more than 400 pages, maybe 400 articles/lists, that link to the redirect science-fiction. --and several that link to gay-rights and high-school
 * --P64 (talk) 21:26, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Place of birth
NNDB says Pohl was born in Brooklyn, NY.

LCCN cites that source but it also cites Wikipedia.

--P64 (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Works
Organization Scope
 * I changed heading 3 to Works and promoted 3.5 Works about Pohl to section 4. The latter presents the table of contents for a single book which may deserve a different heading or a brief preface.
 * How should series be ordered: alphabetically? chronologically by inauguration year? by co-author if any?
 * Is the list (intended to be) complete for books?
 * Are all of his stories for some time period included in the collections?

--P64 (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a separate Frederick Pohl bibliography is warranted. Some bibliographies include double-listing (eg, by co-author and by series in this case?) and listing of related works by other writers.
 * Perhaps a split such as Anne McCaffrey and Anne McCaffrey bibliography is appropriate, where the biography Anne McCaffrey covers each series in prose. --P64 (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Collaborations

 * Collaborative works are different from single-author works, and so I moved the collaborations into a separate subheading in the bibliography.
 * This does pose a bit of a challenge in filing, since in one case he wrote a sequel to a collaborated novel (Merchant's War), and in once case he collaborated on a sequel to a single-author novel (Mars Plus). It's a dilemma whether to categorize these as under collaborations or under series. Geoffrey.landis (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * There is a dilemma unless double listing is reasonable.
 * McCaffrey's co-authors were latecomers to the series; even so, I suppose her biography should do more than name them. For Pohl and Jack Williamson or Cyril M. Kornbluth, the Pohl biography must hope to do more, if the strategy is appropriate. I do see that our book/series articles such as Undersea Trilogy say absolutely nothing about the Williamson/Pohl co-authorship beyond spelling and linking both names correctly.
 * Space Merchants provides extensive coverage of Kornbluth/Pohl and others in the writing and publication history. It is worth brief coverage in both co-author biographies.
 * (I have no idea what info is extant, in contemporary reviews, or latterday interviews and secondary works --including our articles other than the ones linked here.) --P64 (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Eaton Conference and Award, 2008 and 2009

 * last of multiple new sections in one session

Evidently Pohl (as our caption implies) and Ray Bradbury were featured at the 2008 conference. At the 2008 and 2009 conferences, Bradbury received the first and and Pohl the second (as our text says) received the first and second Eaton Awards for their career contributions to science fiction. So 2008 and 2009 are both correct here.

Our linked Eaton article needs update for the new award. ✅ It's now biennial: 2009, 2011, and April 2013. --P64 (talk) 23:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Passed away, but wait
According to his granddaughter on Twitter, Fred Pohl has passed away. I expect someone will try to make this article reflect that soon, and just wanted to point out that whereas I see no reason to mistrust the linked tweet, making sure we don't pronounce someone dead while still alive is important, and we should wait until this has been confirmed by other sources than Twitter. /Julle (talk) 21:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It's in the news today, so I think it's confirmed. Here are two citations: The Guardian, Frederik Pohl, grandmaster of science fiction, dies aged 93; SFWA: In Memorium Frederik Pohl Geoffrey.landis (talk) 14:11, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Question about reference consistency
Several of the references are for The Way the Future Blogs, The Way the Future Blogs, or Thewaythefutureblogs.com - should these all be in the same format for consistency? If so, what is the local consensus for how the references should be formatted? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 17:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * References to the blog should be consistent. I don't think the domain name should be presented as anything more than parenthetical publisher.
 * I suggest thath the work is The Way the Future Blogs --or The Way the Future Blogs (blog)-- and the publisher is Frederik Pohl --or Frederick Pohl (thewaythefutureblogs.com). Thus I support two early citations of the blog,
 * * Robert A. W. Lowndes #5 --Pohl as author and publisher
 * * Robert P. Mills --Pohl as publisher only


 * If we refer to several blog articles then we should provide a formal Citation for it, below the {reflist}. As at Anne McCaffrey, although the refs cannot be so economical as "Dragonholder, pp. 8–10". The Citation can use some prose to say what we want about the publisher. We may learn more about that as http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com and http://www.frederikpohl.com do or don't continue. --P64 (talk) 19:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ... I think my last paragraph points the way, if the repeat refs to Worlds Without End (or Science Fiction & Fantasy Books by Award) annual awards pages will be retained, here and in 100? other biographies of speculative fiction writers. The content of each ref may be so economical as 'Worlds Without End, YYYY.' or even 'WWE, YYYY.' with a single retrieved date in the Citation, imo.
 * --P64 (talk) 20:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Gosh Numbers
Please see Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 December 25. John Vandenberg (chat) 16:42, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Web Site
The web site www.frederikpohl.com appears to be defunct. 208.81.28.208 (talk) 21:15, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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