Talk:Freeway Ricky Ross

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I removed that section on Iran-Contra etc. because, not only was it not substantiated, the text itself stated that that section contained highly speculative and unsubstantiated facts. Any section starting with "Many people believe..." is going to be troublesome per WP:Verify. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deville (talk • contribs).

Yes, it is unsubstantiated but that is because it is a theory. Are you going to try to remove all conspiracy theories from wikipedia? The fact that this theory is a popular one means that it has a place in the article. Wousifou7 18:40, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Shaw1990 (talk) 22:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)What i don't understand is how people could find this man a hero when he caused a great deal of problems in his own community. I have heard his story and listened to some of the good things he did for children in south central, should his actions of trafficking a drug that had dyer effects on the whole black race cancel that out? what does everyone else think?

iran-contra section desperately needs wikifying. Dyukanon 04:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

the theory could be given some credence, as it has been featured in commentary (mainly the American Gangster series on BET), and has several reputable sources backing it... A theory like this should definitely be thoroughly cited though...

Iran-Contra Section
There's certainly no shortage of evidence to substantiate the claims made in the section. If anything, I think that one would contend that it holds back too much given the Commission report & the CIA internal investigation report. I've labelled it as needing citation, however, which I feel is appropriate.

Yes, it's somewhat shocking for those who aren't familiar with the history (the concept that the Reagan Administration would use drug money to fund an illegal terrorist war ''See Nicaragua v. United States'), but it happens to be backed by overwhelming documentary evidence. So, let's be cautious about deleting content -- even if it's one's natural kneejerk reaction -- without first doing the necessary research. 130.126.152.74 07:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This is backwards. Wikipedia's community processes and standards stipulate – and Wikipedia's success requires – that editors refraining from ADDING content without first determining that it is verifiable and citing reliable sources. Also please note the No original research requirement. Seanjsavage (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

A kazillion crack rocks, huh?
I don't have the relevant quote in front of me so I won't presume to edit the article, but ...

Birthday or anything
valid dates would be cool, born n' raised baby

I agree! What day and year was he born? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.55.36 (talk) 09:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

It says he was born on May 3rd 1960.. In the video on the right, his introduces himself with the birthday of 1/26/60. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.71.236.222 (talk) 19:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Found one of the sources
Just saw the American Gangster piece, and it seems to be the source of a lot of the claims made here. I tried to list them as references, but I'm new at this, so I think I didn't do it exactly right. If anyone wants to clean it up, that would be awesome :) Wandering Star

Redirects needed/article retitling
Ricky Donnell Ross - Freeway Ricky Ross ~ender 2008-04-07 18:49:PM MST Rick Ross babymother had a pretty baby girl named Paige —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paige3434 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

RICK ROSS MADE 3 MILLION A DAY, NOT A WEEK
you guys made a slight mistake here he said himself in this interview the he made $3 M a day at the height of his career. Fix it.

Go to 1:50 of the video clip, he says it in his own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmLDzxMI1M&feature=channel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.111.83 (talk) 03:44, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Rick Ross was a Drug Kingpin not a Drug Trafficker
The Disambiguation is incorrect, it should be Drug Kinpin not drug trafficker. A trafficker does not have the network of a kingpin. Rick Ross is one of the premier kingpins in American History.

Drug Kingpin not Drug Trafficker describes both his operations size and was the proper charging statute.

http://www.jstor.org/pss/1599910

Q.What is The Drug Kingpin Statute? A:  The Continuing Criminal Enterprise Statute (commonly referred to as CCE Statute or The Kingpin Statute) is a United States federal law that targets large-scale drug traffickers who are responsible for long-term and elaborate drug conspiracies.

Early Life
WOW!!! I don't even know what to make of all that... I mean is there even one sentence that actually gives meaning? To anything???--The REAL Teol (talk) 21:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Ross-related documents
WhisperToMe (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * From Talk:Gary Webb/DarkAllianceArchives - selected documents from: Library - http://archive.is/dYtfc - http://www.webcitation.org/6KmWFTkGj (includes transcripts of audio files and descriptions of pictures)
 * Statement regarding Ricky Ross (Aug. 12, 1994) - http://archive.is/o4lUZ - http://www.webcitation.org/6L2ACLJzH
 * Excerpts from court transcripts of Rick Ross on trial (March 6, 1996) - http://archive.is/5mFsk - http://www.webcitation.org/6LrojEoZL
 * Excerpts from court transcripts of Rick Ross on trial (March 7, 1996) - http://archive.is/hg9rW - http://www.webcitation.org/6LrouaHa3
 * "Copy of a document referred to as Project Sahara." - Page says: "Project Sahara is a report written by a former Bell Police Officer detailing the debriefing of confidential reliable informant(s). The document contains information which contradicts the premise that Danilo Blandon was Ricky Ross' initial primary supplier." - http://archive.is/48uO7 - http://www.webcitation.org/6Kn8eFEAc
 * "Copies of correspondence involving Gary Webb and Ricky Ross." - http://archive.is/Esvo4 - http://www.webcitation.org/6Kn8XR8OL
 * http://web.archive.org/web/19970409180631/http://www2.sjmercury.com/drugs/photos/evidence.jpg (DEA photo) - http://archive.is/seZFG - http://www.webcitation.org/6LrvkWJTA - Stuff Blandon tried to sell to Ross
 * http://web.archive.org/web/19970409180631/http://www2.sjmercury.com/drugs/photos/ross.jpg (Mercury News/Patrick Tehan photo) - http://www.webcitation.org/6LrvpGwUo
 * http://web.archive.org/web/19970409180631/http://www2.sjmercury.com/drugs/photos/ross3.jpg (Dorsey High School yearbook photo) - http://archive.is/xAMwM - http://www.webcitation.org/6Lrvyezun
 * http://web.archive.org/web/19970409180631/http://www2.sjmercury.com/drugs/photos/truck.jpg (DEA photo) - http://archive.is/8YlE1 - http://www.webcitation.org/6LrwSNqn1 - Ross's truck

Interview removed from external links, why?
""Freeway" Rick Ross; 22:18 . . (-90) . . AuthorAuthor (talk | contribs) (Undid revision 620050127 by GangofOne (talk) YouTube not a reliable source)" How can an interview of the man himself be unreliable? GangofOne (talk) 04:16, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 16 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved to Freeway Ricky Ross. Two agreed on no quotes, with the other two offering different quotation schemes, so I'm choosing the former. If anybody would like to revisit the quotation marks, per WP:OTHEROPTIONS WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE a new RM can be opened. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE  14:32, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Ricky Ross (drug trafficker) → Ricky Ross – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. He is the most notable Ricky Ross, as he is a former drug kingpin. Since he is the primary topic of "Ricky Ross", it should be moved to that. Jennytacular (talk) 03:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Article was at the stable title "Freeway" Rick Ross until it was moved without discussion a couple of months ago. 162 etc. (talk) 05:28, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to "Freeway" Rick Ross per 〜 Festucalex • talk • contribs 05:52, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to "Freeway Rick" Ross. I think the lede has this correct. It is likely that some people just called him "Freeway", but he became publicly known after Gary Webb's reports in which he was called "Freeway Rick" and he refers to himself on his website as "Freeway Rick". Here are some of the various permutations of his name that can be found in sources; some of the more notable ones are linked:
 * Rickie Donnell Ross: ROSS v. ROBERTS II (2013)
 * Rick Donnell Ross
 * Rickey Donnell Ross
 * Rick Ross
 * Ricky Ross: USDOJ/OIG Special Report, The Hitz Report/CIA IG report
 * Freeway Rick Ross: Used on official website
 * Freeway Ricky Ross: Name of official website
 * Rick Freeway Ross
 * Ricky Freeway Ross
 * "Freeway" Rick Ross: Official Instagram
 * "Freeway" Ricky Ross: Nick Shou's book, House report, ROSS v. ROBERTS II (2013)
 * Rick "Freeway" Ross
 * Ricky "Freeway" Ross
 * "Freeway Rick" Ross: Used on offical website, Gary Webb's book
 * "Freeway Ricky" Ross
 * -Location (talk) 13:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support Freeway Ricky Ross, some references list him without quotation marks which I think looks cleaner.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:28, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Freeway Ricky Ross. We try to avoid quotation marks in article titles. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:18, 22 March 2023 (UTC)