Talk:George's Day in Spring

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Đurđevdan is not celebrated on May 23 by old calendar, but on April 23. This Serbian religious holiday is also a major holiday for Roma from former Yugoslavia, whether Orthodox or Muslim. Ederlezi in Romani language, this holiday celebrates the return of springtime.

Negative To Proposed Merging
I dont think the article should be merged with St. George's Day, because it is not only the name of the Serbian St. George Day but also a Roma holiday with the same name (with no connection with St. Georges day, accept the date) and a song from the band Bijelo Dugme. Sveti Djordje in Serbia is also NOT a patron saint. Although I think, Djurdjevdan could be mentioned on the St. George Day article. But Djurdjevdan article should remain. Litany

No Merging
Since it has passed more then 5 days since it was requested to merge this page with St. George's Day and I am the only one to say anything about the raised question. Since I Oppose the mergen I call of the merging. I will although ad an info section on the St. George's Day article about Djurdjevdan. Litany 18:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Expansion
This article need an expansion. It also needs sections for Slavs Djurdjevdan and Roma Djurdjevdan. If somebody want to contribute I would be very happy but I will do my best with finding information and add to this article. Litany 18:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Added a part of the Gorani tradition of the holiday. Litany 18:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Which date?
''Đurđevdan ... a Serbian religious holiday, celebrated on April 23 by the Julian calendar, or May 6 by Gregorian calendar.''

So do some Serbs celebrate on April 23 and some on on May 6? The article doesn't say which date or which calendar is used where. Claret 22:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 23 April Julian and 6 May Gregorian are the very same day, obviously. Duja 12:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge articles?
Đurđevdan = St George's Day

--Djordjes (talk) 07:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

English Wikipedia, Right?
Being that there is no "Đ" in the English alphabet, how is this pronounced? Should we start writing articles using 質問をな (Japanese) and програми (Russian) as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.69.81.2 (talk) 14:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== I couldn't agree with you more. This is getting completely out of hand and one of the main issues that will forever keep Wikipedia (the English version, at least) from being taken seriously.

-- It is written like that because there is no sound in the English language that makes the exact sound of the Serbian character it is written with, it is saying its like a modified version of a d, close to it, but not quite. Also if you would like to note, the title of the page is not written in Serbian Cyrillic alphabet (which is similar to the Russian you wrote in) so please become a bit more educated before you write. It can be taken as though you are disrespecting Serbian language and the sounds saying 'it is not good enough that we can't read it and pronounce it properly in English, please change your whole language just for my pleasure', also the same with the other languages you quoted. I can see what you were trying to say, but this articles title is written in the English alphabet, with modified letters for modified sounds, and if you really want to know how to say it that bad you could try learning the Serbian alphabet (its not too difficult) or even just find it in Cyrillic and type it into translate and listen to how it is said. I find what you said unreasonable and slightly offensive. Its not that big of a deal, but disrespecting other languages for your own benefit it. P.S. How is Wikipedia going to be taken less seriously because it is being authentic?? Honestly some things that come out of peoples mouths confuse me sometimes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.175.150 (talk) 13:20, 20 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Both Ð and ð are used in Old English and early Middle English and have the sound of th as in either think (voiceless) or that (voiced). See eth for more information.  In modern usage it is found in Icelandic and Faroese.  Welsh words which formally used it now use a double d as in Gwynedd pronounced "Gwineth".  In 1878 Đuro Daničić took the Icelandic eth and employed it for his Serbo-Croatian dictionary to replace older the digraphs dj and gj.  It was officially adopted in 1892.  It is important to realise therefore that Đurđevdan is NOT pronounced "Thurthevdan" as it would be in English, but Djurdjevdan which is its official transcription.  This is just one part of a much larger debate as to how much the English language should be modified to suite foreign languages.  We still talk of Munich (not München) or Moscow (not Moskva) and yet now are expected to use Mumbai and Beijing in place of Bombay and Peking.  Ultimately my feeling here is the WP:RF must always apply and using the English transcription would be courteous to Anglophones, some of whom may be speaking English as a poor second language.  Pehaps the article title should be Djurdjevdan and Đurđevdan created as a redirect (move does this automatically), but then the first sentence ought to read "Djurdjevdan (Sebian Đurđevdan) (Ђурђевдан, pronounced [ˈdʑuːrdʑeʋdaːn], "George's day" in Serbian, Gergyovden "George's day" in Bulgarian, Jurjevo "George's" in Croatian and Bosnian or Gjurgjuvden (Ѓурѓовден) in Macedonian, is a South-Slavic religious holiday, celebrated on April 23 by the Julian calendar (May 6 by Gregorian calendar), which is the feast of Saint George and a very important Slav". Martin of Sheffield (talk) 14:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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Merge
Re the merge tag of February 2018: I suggest the merge be with George's Day in Autumn, since both appear to be observed by the Serbian Church, it's less generic than "Saint George's Day", and they seem to complement each other. Mannanan51 (talk) 13:13, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose both the initial proposal and the alternative. The initial proposal isn't necessaty because there is an appropriate Summary/main link between Saint George's Day and Đurđevdan. The second proposal doesn't work as April isn't in Autumn in the parts of the world that mostly celebrate this, and it comes from a quite different tradition, as the Saint George's Day section discusses. Klbrain (talk) 19:28, 1 May 2019 (UTC)