User talk:Klbrain

Sir, My work is an original done through painstaking reasearch of the subject for max authencity and full fledged and not a copycat work. Please note, hence, your merger proposal is not acceptable. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sj2021c (talk • contribs) 14:02, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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Channelomics
Not sure why this is to be deleted? Dies it have to be? I'm not great with these things so perhaps you could help? Thanks RBJ (talk) 22:51, 26 August 2015 (UTC).
 * Thanks for getting in contact. No, it won't necessarily be deleted, but you should definitely put your argument why it should be kept by editing the page Articles for deletion/Channelomics. Use that page just like a talk page, but make sure that you start your entry with your recommendation, like Keep, and then your reason for doing so. I don't make any decision from here; it's up the admins (in 7 days time) based on the arguments put on that talk page. There's already someone else saying Keep, although I confess that it's not me! Klbrain (talk) 23:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Concord Prison Experiment
Case is important for category names - Category:Clinical Trials is different from Category:Clinical trials. Please check your work and, please remember to leave an wp:Edit summary describing your reasoning for your edit. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 01:01, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt, reminder and correction; I did get this one wrong and will watch more carefully. Cheers.Klbrain (talk) 09:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Mason
I copied from the wrong template; thanks for catching it. It's now fixed (filmbio-work-group).-- FeanorStar7 11:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

dabbing
Hi Klbrain -- Thanks for your prolific disambiguating work recently! I am trying to catch you and Niceguyedc but it's tough going: 1. Niceguyedc	      1734 fixed 2. Klbrain	       970 fixed 3. Doncram	       845 fixed 4. ColRad85	       645 fixed 5. Midas02	       522 fixed Even if we could combine points we'd barely be ahead of N. :( The point is to improve the Wikipedia of course.  And it looks like we'll both get some kind of award anyhow.   :)

By the way yesterday i browsed some of your scoring edits as we can do and found them all good, in fact I noticed you have some nice ways of doing and saying some things that I oughta emulate. It was then occurring to me that we could for fun run a small peer review among any DPL editors with more than 100 edits say, who want to participate, to give feedback and bring up some examples to share about. This could be done very systematically, easily, randomly assigning a short list for each to review from that scoring history, so that we'd each evaluate (write a few comments) and be evaluated based on, say, 10 or 15 dab-fixes, with the point being to note differences in our styles and learn a little and build a bit of "how-to" material for training. And I happened by your user page now and see you're in a kind of peer-reviewing business already. Would you be willing to participate if a few others would, sometime like perhaps mid next month? No problem if not. -- do ncr  am  22:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your very kind comments; more than happy to have edits checked and suggestions for improvement are welcome (I'm not that experienced here, but I'm trying to learn). The rather random sampling has been entertaining and educational. You've quite correctly spotted my Pharmacology area of interest, and I do flit between random disambiguating and something more focussed (currently reviewing pages through the relevant Categories; just getting an idea of what's there, and doing some dusting along the way). I'm going to get busier as the month progresses, so don't give up on the chase! Regarding the competition, work gets busier for me in October, so I won't have much time; but I'd be happy to contribute in the way you suggest; your proposal looks like a good one to me.Klbrain (talk) 23:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks! I see u're progressing along.  I may try for lesser goal of doing enough so that "ur score + my score >= N score", which is barely true currently.
 * By the way, you can combine 2 edits into one, and possibly do a little more, in your update edits at wp:DPL, if you started by selecting "edit source" on the "September 2015" higher level section (i.e. edit Disambiguation pages with links/September 2015), rather than editing its "To do" subsection followed by editing its "Done" section. In the same edit it is also possible to update two running counts at the top of the section, as in this combination of 3 edits: 2 of urs and one other's.  It's absolutely fine what you've been doing; don't change anything if it would slow you down.
 * I have the impression you are new in this dabbing; you may not know but I am too. I have a lot of other experience but July was the first time I ever did any mass dabbing, and August was the first time i got listed in the Disambiguation pages with links/Disambiguator Hall of Fame.  Sometimes in the past I noticed my being listed on the wp:MDC leaderboard but only with a few dozen disambiguations.  I am still trying to figure out this area.  For example I think i am doing okay by editing from the monthly list at "Dab Challenge September" as I imagine you are, but I am curious how editor Niceguyedc works so fast.  He is using a different tool, WPCleaner, which I haven't figured out.  I will comment about that at the DPL talk page probably if/when i do.
 * I'll share: frankly, I'm not quite sure of the value of the manual update/tracking process, at least if the toolserver "Dab Challenge September" is available as it is now, which more accurately shows the current status for each of the 1000 dabs.  I would think that a program could also more accurately measure (count up) the cumulative progress each day or hour, but maybe that is not easy.  (In fact there is a daily automated estimate provided within the The Daily Disambig, but towards the end of last month I could tell it was dramatically off, on the low side.  Maybe it only increments by the same credits we get in our individual scoring, i.e. maybe it sees the individual, direct fixing edits, but misses any multiple-page-fixing edit at a template or by changing a dab to a set index article.)  Also, I saw it was handy to have the manual tracking process at the beginning of this month when toolserver was down for a day or two.  And it serves other purposes, allowing us to see progress on our watchlist and to communicate about tricky ones sometimes.  I will try to stick with this process, anyhow, unless/until there's some discussion and consensus to change it.  I am mainly meaning to say that I am new and learning too; you are not alone if you thought you were.
 * I won't burden your Talk page with any more long commenting like this, tho I probably will see and respond if you ask me anything. Again, keep on truckin' or whatever and i will too.  :)  cheers, -- do  ncr  am  16:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * He'd be faster if he used my Dab solver tool instead of doing it manually. — Dispenser 02:11, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed; I'm looking to get more automated, but thoughts I'd use the manual option this month in order to get more of a feel for the range of options; Dab solver tool looks good.Klbrain (talk) 11:04, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation
I have noticed your great work on disambiguation. Just a quick question: why don't you update the progress counts on Disambiguation pages with links/September 2015? Hamish59 (talk) 13:41, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. Regarding updating the progress counts - I might have missed something - I do move term from "To do" down to "Done"; is there anything else that is needed? Do we need to manually edit the 'Progress bar'? Sorry if I've missed this.Klbrain (talk) 13:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That is exactly it: there are two numbers to be manually updated in the Progress section

 [//tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/disambig_links.php?limit=1000&offset=0 top 1000 disambiguation pages] as of August 31, 2015, out of a total of 8,067 links, approximately 6,428 have currently been fixed.

 


 * which renders as

[//tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot/disambig_links.php?limit=1000&offset=0 top 1000 disambiguation pages] as of August 31, 2015, out of a total of 8,067 links, approximately 6,428 have currently been fixed.

Hamish59 (talk) 15:37, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out; sorry I had missed it (I had assumed that that step was an automated process). I'll make sure that I do this for here-on-in (and will also aim to check the current count (a bit trickier)).Klbrain (talk) 15:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries. Hamish59 (talk) 19:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Ubique
I have undone your edit to K Battery Royal Artillery where your edit summary was Unlinked: Ubique; no evidence for notability for this honour. Just to clarify, Ubique is the only Battle Honour of the Royal Artillery, Royal Horse Artillery and the Royal Engineers.

The Royal Artillery was present in nearly all battles and would have earned most of the honours awarded to cavalry and infantry regiments. In 1833, William IV awarded the motto Ubique (meaning "everywhere") in place of all battle honours (see here). Hamish59 (talk) 23:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the helpful correction; I had made an error there and am happy for it to be corrected. The only problem is that it is now an ambiguous link, and there is no link to the honor itself. Perhaps we could link to the definition on wiktionary, ubique. That would at least give a sense of the meaning of the term. That it is a battle honour doesn't need to be clarified, as it is clear from the position in the box.Klbrain (talk) 23:23, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Clarification: ah - already linked to Ubiquitous; that's even better.Klbrain (talk) 23:25, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I copied what you did on P and Q Batteries. Fully understand the need to disambiguate.  Hamish59 (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Congrats!
I tried to chase you down, but couldn't catch you in the October Dab contest. Nicely done! PK T (alk)  00:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Congratulations yourself - I confess that your efforts have spurred me on over the last few days! Anyway, we've both made the list for the month! Klbrain (talk) 00:43, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Low Bergish Platt
Thank you for unlinking Platt in Low Bergish. I had been contemplating the same - or creating an article explaining Platt - but since it is a Dutch and German word, not an English word, an English explanation would become too much a wordbook entry. There is a German article de:Platt, however, explaining why so many vernacular languages from Denmark to the Netherlands and Thuringia call themselves "Platt". Might it be worth a footnote for those understanding German? I am hesitant. --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 09:16, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could link from Platt to the relevant German page - using the interlanguage link (as you have used). I've tried adding this relatively simply, but I am not a language expert on Low Bergish, so would be very happy to go with any suggestion you might have.Klbrain (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Fine for me :-) There is a very brief English summary of the German article at http://www.omegawiki.org/index.php?title=DefinedMeaning:Platt_%281599378%29&action=edit if you care.
 * Thank you again. --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 16:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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Recent edit to Radial
Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because I believe the article was better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you!  CatcherStorm    talk   17:25, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Rather than reversing the edit, and returning to an ambiguous link, can I suggest that we just unlink "radiate"? "Radiate" does seem to be sufficiently simple English that it doesn't need linking.Klbrain (talk) 18:16, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Poor guesswork fixing dabs
I am concerned about the quality of your guesswork fixing these. All those for vitreous were wrong, and very obviously so to anyone with the slightest knowledge of the subject, or (I would have thought) even anyone who had bothered to read the first paras of the various articles concerned. I looked at some of the population structure ones, and I think it pretty unlikely that several of them are correct. I was rather dubious about the atropine thingy pharma ones too, but you claim to know something about the subject, and perhaps you do. Please stick to ones you actually know are right, and don't have to guess. It is much better to leave a link to a dab page than to "fix" it incorrectly. Johnbod (talk) 01:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Your opinions are noted. I did get some of the vitreous links wrong in the context of stoneware/ceramics, which I will review. I am surprised, however, that despite your expertise in the field of ceramics you have chosen to maintain an ambiguous links, noting for example your ambiguous edit on Faience. Regarding scopolamine, this is a topic I know rather well.Klbrain (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I reverted your bad edit, and improved the rather crap disam page itself. I repeat, links to disam pages are not themselves a very bad thing, and you are hardly in a position to point fingers. None of our destinations for this are ideal. However, I see you have corrected it to a decent one. Johnbod (talk) 12:12, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing your specialist expertise in art to those pages.Klbrain (talk) 12:45, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Bangladesh
Please can you correct as 1971 war as "Bangladesh Freedom fight " instead of indo-Pak war. (82.132.228.153)
 * I'd be happy to, but can't find the page you're referring to. Could you let me know?Klbrain (talk) 16:11, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

A tip when disambiguating
Hello Klbrain; to make your disambiguating easier, here's a tip that lets you move a link from "To do" to "Done", and to update the count information in a single edit, rather than 3. If you click on the [ edit source ] link next to the current month, just above the Progress Bar, you then have access to move the item you have finished from wherever it is in the "To do" section to the bottom of the "Done" list. On the same edit, you can add the number of links for the item to the Progress for the project. Remember to add the link count in two places - one for the text and the other for the Progress bar. I hope this is helpful and is reasonably clear - if not, please drop me a line on my talk page. Cheers! PK T (alk)  01:36, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the helpful tip; I was editing sections separately in order to reduce the risk of editing clashes on the sometimes very busy editing of that page. However, I think that on balance this isn't a strong enough argument, so I'll switch to editing from the 'month' as you suggest. Cheers. Klbrain (talk) 12:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Beatus
Please stop disambiguating this. You have no idea what you are doing. Johnbod (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback, but I can't see your better solution to the link I've suggested. For example, on Votive Mass you've reversed my edit without leaving an explanatory comment, and also left the term ambiguous. That is the only one of Beatus edits you've corrected, so I'm surprised at the energy of your comments.Klbrain (talk) 18:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've thought about this again, and have checked the context with a Catholic chaplain, and am now convinced that the initial disambiguation was correct. The sentence in dispute is "Nor may it be said of a Beatus, unless this is allowed by special indult"

- Votive Mass , which I interpret as a saying that a votive mass cannot be said of someone who has only been beatified, but not cannonised. Hence, to link Beatus (one who has been beatified) to beatification (the process of making a Beatus) seems reasonable to me and consistent with Wikipedia style, given that there is not (and need not be) a separate Beatus page. An alternative might be List of beatified people, but this seems less informative. Klbrain (talk) 21:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, this one is also wrong. Johnbod (talk) 00:08, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that that one could be better, but again you haven't provided a more specific solution. Perhaps a link to Beatus of Liébana which describes the set of (derivative) medieval manuscripts would be appropriate. Klbrain (talk) 06:03, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You mean that one could be right, as opposed to plain wrong! The bio link is just likely to confuse people. Often items are best left linked to the disam page, for various reasons. Sending people to the wrong page is much worse than leaving them at a disam page. Johnbod (talk) 11:44, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Beatus of Liébana section clearly defines the relevant use of Beatus in that context, specifically "The Commentary was popular during the Middle Ages and survives in at least 34 manuscripts (usually called a beatus) from the 10th through the 16th centuries"

- Beatus of Liébana


 * Another option might be write a new page, along the lines of Beatus (medieval manuscript). Klbrain (talk) 23:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Clarification for other readers: we are discussing the use of 'beatus' on Medieval art.
 * I've just seen Johnbod's new link to Commentary on the Apocalypse; I agree that that is better! Klbrain (talk) 23:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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More bad attempts at de-disambiguating!
Stone carving is almost never the right piped link to "lithics" etc. If it is, then the text is probably by a 2nd-language speaker, and the word should probably just be changed to "stone" with no link. For Stone Age tools, which are normally the context of the term in English, lithic reduction is usually best. Please stick to areas you know about! Johnbod (talk) 04:48, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your correction. On this occassion, lithic reduction is (I agree) better; elsewhere I had seen "lithics" used in the sense of "stone" and had linked to rock (geology). Klbrain (talk) 05:34, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Great Goddess disambiguation
Hi, I see you've disambiguated Demeter as a possible Great Goddess to Great Goddess hypothesis. Not appropriate, as the last deals with a non-standard, indeed somewhat fringey and slapdash speculation more or less invented by Marija Gimbutas. "Great Goddess" is not a hard-and-fast term, so I've re-linked Demeter as Great Goddess to Mother Goddess instead; it's a more appropriate target though I can't, with the best will in the world, really describe it as "better". Haploidavey (talk) 15:15, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out; I should have paid more attention to the Mother Goddess page! Klbrain (talk) 21:19, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply
Are you talking about my talk page? No, users can remove anything from their talk pages except block notices by administrators. Here is it. My very best wishes (talk) 22:56, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointout out WP:OWNTALK, which I don't think that I had read. I'm sorry that I had missed it. It does have helpful comments about the spirit of the use of user talk pages (in addition to the policies). Klbrain (talk) 23:06, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution
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 * You might have missed that this was a merge rather than a copy; note that Modern recession of beaches was redirected to Beach evolution by me; the merge was indicated in the edit summaries (for example, see my edit at 15:35, 23 April 2016‎ on Beach evolution). I've now also documented this on Talk:Beach evolution to make this clearer. Klbrain (talk) 08:22, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that edit summary, but it was rather incomplete, as it did not say what the source page was. Have a look at as an example of how you could do it better in the future. — Diannaa (talk) 18:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Checked my edit summary: you're quite right, I did miss that - thanks for spotting it. Not my usual practice. Klbrain (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks!
Your merge of Gender performativity into Social construction of gender is much appreciated! Did you consider Doing gender as well? It also has a merge tag; I'm wondering if the tag should be updated or removed. --BDD (talk) 17:04, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was going to do it, but it looks like it could be a big job: I was pausing for breath before making a decision on that one! Feel free to do it if you prefer; I have a medical background, but not a specific gender expertise and am more than happy if you want to have a look at and decide one way or the other. Klbrain (talk) 17:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

I undid your cut n paste move
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 * Thanks for your comments; you're quite right - I was cutting corners there! The "List" name already existed as a redirect to Indoor roller coaster, hence why the Move option didn't work. I'll use the "request move" procedure, as you recommend. Klbrain (talk) 10:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Lobosa & Lobosea
Hi, Klbrain. While I understand the logic of merging the articles, I think it would be better to retain the article on subphylum Lobosa and possibly redirect Lobosea to Tubulinea. For one thing, Lobosa is a more widely used taxon than Lobosea (a search in Google Scholar turns up about 5 times as many occurrences). Also, subphylum Lobosa is the more comprehensive taxon, and includes not only class Tubulinea (a synonym of class Lobosea), but also the lobose amoebae of the class Discosea. Since amoebae of Discosea and the recently proposed Cutosea are lobosean, in the loose and traditional sense, they should not be excluded from an article that discusses the sensu lato "loboseans."

More importantly, taxoboxes and navboxes within Wikipedia are generally structured with the subphylum in mind. So, if you look up Tubulinea, the taxobox there shows it to be a class under subphylum Lobosa; however, if you click on the link for that subphylum, you'll now end up at a page about another class-level taxon, Lobosea, which happens to be identical in composition! The same goes for navigational templates such as template:Eukaryota, which link to the subphylum Lobosa, comprising Discosea, Cutosea and Tubulinea/Lobosea).

Since class Lobosea is a synonym of Tubulinea (see Ruggiero et al, 2015), it should probably redirect to that page (there's already a decent article on Tubulinea). The contents of the Lobosea article can be judiciously moved to Lobosa (particularly the passage concerning the informal use of "loboseans", a common term for amoebozoan organisms that produce lobose pseudopods). Deuterostome (talk)  22:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Klbrain (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Nastaliq

 * Will you look into the template of Nastaliq, is not working. For example if i am using, "رنگ" in Nastaliq template it will generate this: . Results are same, it just happened today. I checked last time it was working fine. Nauriya (Rendezvous) 19:18, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have recently edited the Nastaʿlīq script page, but not the Template:Nq. There was a template edit on the 5th September by, who in their edit comment notes "Firefox must be used, see: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=projects&item_id=graphite_firefox". I'm not sure whether or not this helps?! Perhaps Great Brightstar can help. Klbrain (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, recently I added Awami Nastaliq font, but this font uses Graphite feature only for complex layout, you need Firefox if you want to use that. I will check whether my edit (or other revisions before me) break that. --Great Brightstar (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This template works fine to me. Which font do you used for that? --Great Brightstar (talk) 16:24, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I use Chrome, not Firefox and mostly users use Chrome. The template works fine but results are the same. For example, the Template:Nq produces "رنگ" into this, which is exactly the same as it was before using template but just bigger in size, this is not Nastaliq. Have you seen the pictures in Nastaʿlīq script article, the template was producing that style. So, what should be the solution to this.This link will clear you what Nastaliq font previously this template was generating, Nafees Nastaleeq. Nauriya (Rendezvous) 13:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It was not work for me. I also use Chrome 53.0, this font works fine to me. Maybe I can try previous version of Nafees Nastaleeq.--Great Brightstar (talk) 14:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
 * They are all works fine to me. Maybe you have a bad extension or wrong setting affect you, check it out. --Great Brightstar (talk) 15:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Attribution while merging
Hey Klbrain, thank you for helping with the merges. Just a small suggestion that when you place the merged-from on the talk pages, please place it on the top of the page (above any of the sections). This is for attribution purposes. Place it in the section (like here) might lead to it being archived and the attribution is not visible. It would also be helpful if you add the merged-to to the source article's talk (or alternatively used the copied and paste it on both article's talk). --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:35, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I've been placing those merge templates either at the top, or in the relevant talk section (where there is one!), favoring the latter because it helps to indicate locally the completion of the merge? Archiving discussion stops additions to the discussion, but doesn't remove the template, so doesn't remove the traceability of the attribution for anyone who is interested. I agree that it reduces its prominence, but perhaps that is small price to pay for not having other reconsider a resolved merge discussion. I accept that a formal close discussion (in addition to the merge template) would also achieve this, but that does require an extra step.
 * You're quite right that I could use merged-to more frequently, tending only to use it where the merge discussion is on the paged merged from. Klbrain (talk) 07:45, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually a formal close isn't really necessary. I just put the merge template on the top and add a done at the discussion And all in the same edit :) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:50, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I do like the done suggestion; I'll certainly use that! Klbrain (talk) 07:52, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

I have some other thoughts as well to improve the accuracy of the merge (thinking of proposing this at the WikiProject): What do you think? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:55, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * If only one of the pages has been tagged, it might be preferable to tag the new page and update the dates on both - rather than removing it. For example Hjuksebø and Hjuksevelta are actually the same place, though only 1 was tagged. However, removing the merge template essentially makes it harder to figure out which was the duplicate page.
 * Would it be good to leave a message on both talk pages when a stale merge template is removed?
 * Regarding your first point, I agree that if only one page was tagged, then it is preferable to tag the other rather than just remove the template. However, I think that it would be better to use the initial proposal date - the date of the proposal hasn't changed, it just hasn't been advertised in the correct places.
 * Regarding your second point, leaving a message on just the page linked for discussion would seem sufficient; as long as you also leave an edit comment on both pages when removing the template. However, when there has been no case made for the discussion, and no comment (over a reasonable length of time), I don't think that additional time should be commenting on someone's unjustified tag-and-run. Those with an interest know to look at the page history. Klbrain (talk) 12:12, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Hephaestus Books
You're correct, they are a notorious republisher. Really a scam. Doug Weller talk 11:22, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks; good to know. Klbrain (talk) 15:55, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Taal, manjira, kartal
Thanks for merging these redundant instrument pages. I believe I was the one who suggested the merge way back when, and I recognize a lot of the material from my earlier fidgeting, but I never had the wiki skills to merge that many things together. You seem to have done so seemlessly. Hats off to you, sir. Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 08:06, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You are very kind to say so! I'm sure that there are still refinements to be made, but at least it is better to start with the material together. Klbrain (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Characters of Blake's 7
An unclosed merge request from three years ago, abandoned with clear opposition and no consensus to merge is emphatically not reason to merge ten character articles. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:41, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've responded at Talk:Characters of Blake's 7; the bottom line is last two arguments were in support of merges plus WP:SILENCE reads as consensus to me, noting that consensus does not equal unanimous agreement. Klbrain (talk) 22:43, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Dissolution Testing and USP Dissolution Apparatus Merger Discussion
Hi I am reaching out to editors who have recently edited USP Dissolution Apparatus 2 because I feel that the discussion for merging the article is not getting enough attention. If you would like you can join the discussion --Have a great day :), Sanjev Rajaram (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Replied there - looks fine to me. Klbrain (talk) 22:46, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help
I just wanted to say "thanks" to you for your help in resolving the "Hindu Views on Monotheism" issue I had. You've restored my faith in the essential decency and sense of fairness of Wikipedians. So, again, I say thanks! Svabhiman (talk) 06:20, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your very kind comments; you made a very clear argument, with a simple and clear proposal - what wasn't to like! Klbrain (talk) 20:18, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you again!

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Brit Awards albums
Hi there, I see you've redirected the page for Brit Awards 2015 (album), which I proposed and fully agree with your move. However, that still leaves us with Brit Awards 2014 (album), Brit Awards 2016 (album) and Brit Awards 2017 (album)... do you think the same redirect to their respective awards is in order (I do)? The editor who created these articles, Hadji87, is the only person who is likely to object to their merger, but seeing as he doesn't provide any sources other than the track listings from the Brits own website, I don't think there is any real reason for these standalone articles to be kept. Richard3120 (talk) 14:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree that those other merges (the albums into the corresponding awards) are a good idea, just as for the 2015 page; thanks for suggesting it. I think that one of us (or anyone else) can boldly do it. Hadji87's talk page makes for interesting reading. Klbrain (talk) 14:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * He's well-meaning and undoubtedly sincere in his desire to improve Wikipedia. But he just doesn't understand the difference between encyclopedic content and trivia, and he exasperates several other British editors. Every page of "201x in British music charts" from 2011 onwards is cluttered by an absurdly long "summary" which details each week's new entries, highest movers, etc. and it just isn't important or interesting... I doubt there's anyone looking to find out who the highest climber from just two weeks ago was, never mind in Week 17 of 2013. The chart summary should be more like the one for 2010 in British music charts, so for example for 2017 it should highlight important achievements: Ed Sheeran's long-running stints at no. 1 with "Shape of You" and ÷, "Despacito" making a worldwide breakthrough for reggaeton music, Harry Styles scoring no. 1s with his debut single and album, Sgt. Pepper returning to no. 1 fifty years after its release, Stormzy scoring the first no. 1 album by a grime artist... these are all important achievements, and very likely sourceable as well, unlike the trivia Hadji adds. His other major additions are creating articles for every Now That's What I Call Music album – I feel that there are almost no compilation albums that deserve their own article, and a simple list at the parent Now article will do... yes, they all reach no. 1 on the compilation chart, but as nobody buys compilations any more due to streaming and making their own playlists on iTunes or Spotify, it's not much of an achievement to reach no. 1 on that chart these days (the three annual Now albums now account for 75–80% of all compilation sales in the UK each year). Richard3120 (talk) 15:09, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * My thanks for the review, and also to User:Joe Roe for sorting out the image caption before I got to it! I agee that that was needed. Klbrain (talk) 12:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
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 * I nominate Klbrain as Editor of the Week. I have only interacted with this editor briefly, but I have been highly impressed with the merge work that they are dedicated to, which is tireless and often thankless. A quick review of edits reveals a very active editor with a friendly and collegiate manner, who edits to content space, responds to talk messages, and is very active resolving WP's stale mergers (in many different fields to boot!). Klbrain deserves this merit as one of many unthanked editors on the website and I hope that other editors will have a look at their work and agree.

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 * Thanks for the great news, and to Tom for the completely unexpected and very generous nomination. The world of stale merges is indeed rather buried, so thanks for descending to the depths! Klbrain (talk) 14:54, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled right
Greetings Dr. Brain. I notice that at the moment you don't have the autopatrolled right on your account, so your articles go into the review queue. Would you be happy for me to nominate you for this right? As I can tell you know what you're doing I'd be keen to put you in this group if an administrator accepts it to reduce the number of articles that must be reviewed manually. You can nominate yourself if you prefer. Blythwood (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That's very kind of you to offer; if you could nominate me, that would be great. Klbrain (talk) 20:19, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted
Hi Klbrain, I just wanted to let you know that I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&page=User%3AKlbrain added] the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Anarchyte (work  &#124; talk )  05:00, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Genome editing
Hi. I made an executive decision and merged genome engineering into genome editing. Hope you don't mind that I didn't wait for you to respond. I was planning on nominating Genetic engineering for WP:GA and didn't really want the tag at the top. If you disagree just revert and we can work something else out. AIR corn (talk) 09:08, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was a bit slow on that page; it was a significant job, so thanks for doing it! I think that that was a perfectly reasonable think to do. Klbrain (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Merges
Hi Klbrain just trying to clarify some aspects of merges - think it's come up before. As long as a merge proposal has not been opposed there's no reason to remove the proposal. Another editor can come along later and perform the merge. Often the merger proposer is the editor who will make the merge. Sometimes the merge wanted is so 'unopposable' that it can be carried out without a proposal. Often a merge tag is placed when there is just isn't the time to cary out the merge, and this leaves it open for somebody else to later perform the merge or the proposer if they're still around - if it's unopposed of course. So it really helps if the merge tag is left - otherwise if a time came when the merge was wanted to be done it would have to wait a month after re-proposing for any discussion to take place. Hope that makes sense - all the best --Iztwoz (talk) 13:01, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with the sentiments but also note:
 * WP:MERGEINIT Step 1 is "Create a discussion", a step missed by many drive-by proposers. Missing this step slows the progress of merges as it means that the others have to work to harder to interpret the case.
 * WP:MERGEINIT Step 4 "If there is a consensus against the merger, or if there is no consensus or no discussion and you don't believe that it is appropriate to merge the pages, then please remove the merge proposal tags".
 * So, the absence of a discussion (particularly over more than a year) is sufficient to close the proposal. I'm a frequent bold merger of pages, even when there is no discussion (for example, yesterday, Revista Brasileira de Engenharia, Caderno de Engenharia Química into Brazilian Journal of Chemical Engineering), but when the case to merge is arguable then I think the proposer really should make a case.Klbrain (talk) 13:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Closing of Merge Proposal for Juice Plus
Hi. Noticed you closed the merge proposal on the basis that there was "no consensus for merge" and that there was "uncontested opposition". In fact, 4 experienced editors supported the merge proposal and the only dissenter was an SPA, with a total of one edit to date (the TPG comment), who merely stated "I know NSA but never heard of Juice Plus", which is a superficial assertion of an immaterial non-fact that required no opposition. Also, as you probably know, SPAs, especially an SPA making their first edit, would generally not be given any weight in such a discussion. Rather than there being no consensus for the merger, I would argue that there was a clear consensus; it was just awaiting someone to act on it. On that basis, I'll ask you to consider reverting your edit. Thanks! Rhode Island Red (talk) 22:05, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comments; I've had a look back at the talk. There is one comment opening the proposals that argues that NSA is only notable for Juice Plus, which wasn't supported by my reading of National Safety Associates which demonstrates activity in the 70s and 80s in other products, potentially notable if only for the legal actions related to some of those products. The following 3 comments were poll-type responses, adding no arguments. The final 13 October 2016 comment was a clear oppose from, directly contradicting the only case made for the merge. Given that this comment was unopposed for 15 months, I applied WP:SILENCE and closed. I still think that that's reasonable. I hadn't checked MemBrain's contribution history, so hadn't noticed that it was an SPA; thanks for pointing this out. However, I have re-opened; perhaos you could comment on the substance of the proposal over there? Klbrain (talk) 00:30, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Merging
Hi, I see that you do a lot of cleaning up of old merge tags etc. That's good but I have come across a few recently that suggest to me that you are more concerned with emptying a maintenance category that producing a useful outcome at the articles. For example, your merge into the Komati caste article is nothing more than a dump of content from Arya Vaishya, which aids neither article nor reader. I think there is more to merging that just copy/pasting and, certainly with caste-related articles, it might be better not to bother unless you are going to do it "properly" because the scope for setting off some sort of wiki-war is quite high. Just a thought. - Sitush (talk) 19:09, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your frank opinion, with which you might not be surprised to know I disagree. My belief is that there is a role for copy/paste merging as an incremental step in the evolution of material on Wikipedia. By placing relevant information in one page, expert subject editors, who may be unfamiliar with the process of merging, are then able to refine the content of the page in one place. In fact, editing heavily while merging confuses authorship of the material being merged. Even further, heavy editing creates a great risk of edit warring because the newly-synthesised material has not withstood the years of uncontested scrutiny that most Wikipedia material has withstood. Klbrain (talk) 22:47, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Then you obviously haven't got a clue about the problems with caste. Do it again and I will see you at WP:ANI because that topic area is subject to two sanctions regimes. To clarify further, the notion that "expert" editors would be unfamiliar with merging may have a very small element of truth to it but the notion that they do not know how to copy/paste, which is all you are doing, is absurd. - Sitush (talk) 02:18, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * In fact, for the avoidance of doubt, I will let you know about them now. See below. - Sitush (talk) 02:20, 13 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reminder; I accept and agree that caste is a particularly sensitive topic that needs to be handled with care. Klbrain (talk) 11:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

UB40
Thanks for merging the articles on the three band members to the main article – only yesterday I came across them again and thought "I must get round to doing those merges tomorrow"... but you beat me to it. Richard3120 (talk) 18:40, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks; they've been there a while, but I know that there's plenty to do elsewhere too. Wasn't sure about the best solution for multiple infoboxes - might be nice to have a 'gallery', but that would have the problem of dissociating the infoboxes from the relevant sections. Klbrain (talk) 21:47, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Participation of women in the Olympics
Hi Klbrain! Thanks for moving Participation of women in the Olympics into the mainspace. You also reviewed it, which is amazing! It is a great coincidence that you completed the merge today as I had also planned to do it today! You beat me to it by a couple minutes! Once again thank you for your cooperation in the writing and publishing of this article. Regards, Jith12 (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your generous comment. I don't have specific expertise in the field of sport, but have been involved with plenty of merges; that one was carefully done by you via draft (over a 4 month period), which is a helpful way of proceeding that should allow collaboration; came up with a good result, although its a pity that there weren't more people around to help you! There may be some comments from others about material they think should be included that didn't come across with the selective merge, but that's OK; I'm sure that it can all be worked out on the new page. Klbrain (talk) 22:24, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I've submitted the article for peer review. My goal for this article is to get it to GA status. PR is probably the right place to go to get some input. Once again, thank you for all of your help and advice! Regards, Jith12 (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Syrophoenician woman merger
I see that you went ahead and completed the merger of Syrophoenician woman into Exorcism of the Syrophoenician woman's daughter. The problem is, you are an WP:INVOLVED editor; you had previously !voted "support". There were a number of "oppose" !votes, and no clear consensus for the merger. So, please undo your merger, and ask an uninvolved editor to close the discussion; perhaps post a request at Administrators' noticeboard. StAnselm (talk) 18:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Remember that merge discussions are discussions, not votes. The preceding argument at Talk:Exorcism of the Syrophoenician woman's daughter from 22 January 2017 was in support of the merge, and received no refutation over 13 months; so, I could have merged it on 7 February 2018, as an uninvolved editor. Nevertheless, I pointed out the policy and waited 3 weeks to ensure that there were no objections. So, I believe that the merge was valid on the 7th Feb and therefore also reason (given no objections) on the 28th. Nevertheless, given your objections, I am happy to reverse the merge.Klbrain (talk) 22:29, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. But remember - an unanswered argument doesn't automatically "win". StAnselm (talk) 00:09, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Physicochemical merger
After your change of Physicochemical, the difference to Physiochemical is not explained anymore. I think we need the following sentence to reappear somewhere: Not to be confused with Physiochemical which refers to Physiological chemistry. RolfSander (talk) 08:07, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right; sorry I had missed that (I had meant to include it). I've now added the hatnote to the top of Physical chemistry. Klbrain (talk) 14:00, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-) RolfSander (talk) 14:09, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Do you use the search results page a lot?
Just curious. &mdash; The Transhumanist     14:40, 15 March 2018 (UTC) P.S.: please ping me if you reply. Thanks. -TT


 * The advanced search? Sometimes; not 'a lot'. Klbrain (talk) 14:58, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Regarding article Smart City Indore
Hi Klbrain.

You merged the article Smart City Indore with Indore Municipal Corporation. I'd like to request you to revert the merger, since those two are separately different articles. Smart City Indore is an initiative, Indore Municipal Corporation is the municipal body, therefore the merge does not make any sense. Other 'Smart City' articles too have separate Wikipedia articles, please see Smart City Pune for instance. -TheodoreIndiana (talk) 09:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Smart cities is an initiative of the Indore Municipal Corporation. Some other cities do have their own separate pages for the smart initiative (which in my view should also be merged). Also, the merge occurred after an unopposed 2015 merge proposal, with discussion on a prominent page at Talk:Indore. More than 3 years with no objections to the idea that a stand-alone page wasn't warranted doesn't seem unreasonable (with 2 different targets considered). I also note that the merge completed more than 2 months ago, in which time the page has been edited by others, making a reversal awkward. Nevertheless, if things have changed, please feel free to formally propose a WP:SPLIT. Klbrain (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Manchester Lit & Phil
This was yet another poor merge by you. I realise that you are trying to clear a backlog but your enthusiasm for doing so is creating more work for others. You should not just dump the content of one article into another. - Sitush (talk) 23:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for expressing your view; however, I can't see your point, particularly for that edit. What is your specific concern about that edit? It seems to be completely consistent with WP:FMERGE. Klbrain (talk) 09:53, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!
Nice job; I was somewhat regretting suggesting that re-arrangement of material, as the pages were hard to work with ... Well done for being determined enough to do it! Klbrain (talk) 23:18, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind appreciation. I wanted to hear opinions from Jain individuals as well. My understanding of this topic was from a Jain friend in childhood. So I concur that Khatushyam is a common name than Barabarik. hence the rename. -- DBig X<font color="#10AD00">ray  12:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * PS: There are these two really interesting articles on Integrated marketing communications and Marketing communications ...  ;) Klbrain (talk) 23:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)


 * ok I may take a look sometime. hate to be called a canvasee. -- D<font color="#DA500B">Big X<font color="#10AD00">ray  12:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for the merge work done on Gyrator-capacitor model
Just wanted to say thanks for merging the Gyrator-capacitor model pages. Constant314 (talk) 13:24, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Klbrain (talk) 13:29, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks Klbrain for deleting the page List of cities in Iran.

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 * Thanks for the kitten; of course, it was a redirect following a merge of relevant material (just so people don't get worried ...)! We still have List of cities in Iran by province. Klbrain (talk) 19:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for taking care of those category pages in Iran.

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A kitten for you!
Thanks for taking care of both of the Category pages that I asked you to take care of.

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Talkback
—  Newslinger  talk   16:38, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Expressing my thanks for a discussion closure by an uninvolved editor! Klbrain (talk) 16:46, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Merging Request Alert!
The article Central Valley General Hospital and the article Hanford Community Medical Center need to be merged with the article Adventist Health Hanford. They are the same hospital owned by Adventist Health. I'm including the website for Adventist Health which lists all the hospitals that the company owns.Catfurball (talk) 21:17, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * sounds like a reasonable thing to propose; free free to follow the procedure at WP:MERGEPROP. Klbrain (talk) 22:05, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm not really interested in merging the three articles. And I'm way to busy, so much to do in the Portal:Seventh-day Adventist Church. List of Seventh-day Adventist being one of them that I've done the majority of my work on, so many names with no references Some of them were in the wrong place, still some are in the wrong place. I suggest that you tag these three articles that I told you about, with my reason to why they should be merged.Catfurball (talk) 17:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge into Judgment (mathematical logic)
Hi, it seems you merged logical assertion into Judgment (mathematical logic) but this seems to be entirely incorrect; they are unrelated concepts, as best as I can understand them. Or are you sufficiently an expert to be able to explain how they are the same? The problem is that the judgment article is absolutely horrid, a mish-mash of gobbldy-gook; as far as can tell, a judgment is supposed to be a "type judgment", as in type theory. For example "t is a term". See Talk:Judgment (mathematical logic) for details. 67.198.37.16 (talk) 21:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I was responding to unopposed proposal posted at Talk:Judgment (mathematical logic) and Talk:Logical assertion; that proposal was unopposed from when it was written on 13 August 2016 until my merge on 7 May 2018, and seemed a plausible argument to me. I don't mind being corrected, however, as this is not a field in which I have particular expertise. Klbrain (talk) 22:16, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Stale merge proposals
Hi, for really obvious cases like this (or like the Hindu month from a few days ago), I don't think it's reasonable to expect that the proposer should have started a discussion, or that others should have voiced their support. The burden of proof here should really be on those, if any, who would claim the two topics are distinct. And I don't think a proposal from 2016 is "stale": this is an out of the way topic area without any really dedicated regular editors that I know of: it might take much more than two years before anyone with the necessary comepetence comes around to performing the merge. – Uanfala (talk) 09:40, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * A few points in reply:


 * What is obvious to you might not be obvious to others, which is why a case should be made on the talk page; in both cases I was following the delisting rule on the grounds that the merge was not obvious to me, with the additional condition that the proposer of the merge did not start a discussion for the merge. I do regularly perform merges where there is no case made and I feel that the case is genuinely obvious - see, for example, this merge. So, if the case isn't blatant, can I encourage you to start a discussion?
 * The "one-year stale" rule is part of the Stale merge proposals guidelines.
 * If a case is both obvious and in an out-of the way area, can I encourage you to be WP:BOLD or aim for concensus via WP:BRD.
 * Consistent with this, I don't mind my merge closures being reversed if you feel that they warrant further consideration; or of course you can just propose them again! Klbrain (talk) 15:42, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair points, but if that's how things are currently done, then problems are likely to come up again. A merge often requires evaluating content, choosing stuff to keep or to discard, rewriting parts of the text, etc: it's a content matter. When I propose a merge, then obviously I do that in topic areas with which I have enough familiarity to be able to identify the duplication, but in most of these cases I don't have the subject expertise necessary to confidently perform the merge itself. When I place the tag, I expect it to be followed up by a suitable editor (or hopefully, a suitable reader who's not yet an editor), one that has more subject expertise than me. I don't expect that to be acted on by someone with less. Of course, there are plenty of mergers that can be carried out by any good editor, but that's not by any means all, and  any workflow based on this assumption is probably not quite fit for purpose. – Uanfala (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Update to NerdWallet Page
I haven't heard back on the NerdWallet talk thread, so wanted to ping you directly to see if you saw it, had time to take a look, and if it's something you're interested in. Thank you. Julianne at NerdWallet (talk) 22:39, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Multiplayer game listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Multiplayer game. Since you had some involvement with the Multiplayer game redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 15:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Efficacy
The theological use at least as old, even if it is not as widespread. Here is proof of my claim: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=efficacy&year_start=1500&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cefficacy%3B%2Cc0 If separate sections is really a problem, then why not make efficacy (medicine)? Since intrinsic activity makes for a third one, I guess a disambig could work.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 23:31, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with that suggestion that much of the existing medical content should go to efficacy (medicine), that efficacy should be DAB and that other uses of the term (which may be equally or more important) should have their own separate pages. Perhaps we could continue the discussion at Talk:Efficacy, as it keeps the relevant discussion with the page. Perhaps we could formally propose a WP:RFC there? Klbrain (talk) 23:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Lackawaxen Township
I somehow missed the merger proposal, but Lackawaxen and Lackawaxen Township aren't the same place; Lackawaxen is just one community within the township (that happens to share a name). This map shows seven other, different communities in the township, some of which (Greeley, Rowland) have separate articles. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 18:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the helpful clarification. The pages I merged, though, were both for the 'township'; that is Lackawaxen Township, Pennsylvania and Lackawaxen Township, Pike County, Pennsylvania. The lede of the current article does mention Lackawaxen Village; perhaps just putting this in bold to make it clear that the page covers both the township and village might be sufficient? I've done that anyway, in case this proves sufficient. Klbrain (talk) 18:43, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Regarding the issue of the other pages, its fine for them to exist if they have notability independent of the township; the question then is whether Lackawaxen Village has a history which is independently notable of Lackawaxen Township, and even if it does there is an argument that such a distinction is best made on one page. Klbrain (talk) 18:46, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I was referring to Lackawaxen, Pennsylvania, which wasn't for the township (and was about Lackawaxen Village). Communities usually do have an independent history from their townships; the reason I like to keep them separate is that otherwise the community's history tends to get tangled up with the township's history on the township page. As for independent notability, this book has a whole chapter on the township, which includes several pages about the village's history in particular and a few about the other villages. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 19:00, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * My mistake; you're quite right that Lackawaxen, Pennsylvania was about Lackawaxen Village. The source you quote does indeed have a section on Lackawaxen Village (p.955) which is part of the chapter covering the township Lackawaxen, Pennsylvania (starting on p.954). That is, the history of the village forms part of the history of the township, so I can't see that this establishes independent notability; rather, the reverse. It's certainly a good source for the history! Also, the former village page (Lackawaxen, Pennsylvania) was a long-standing stub  and I also felt, and feel, that it is better discussed within the township page. However, given that you have swiftly objected, I'm very happy to reverse the merge. Perhaps we could then take the discuss the relevant merge discussion section?   Klbrain (talk) 22:03, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And yes, the talk page makes more sense for this discussion. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 22:06, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Article 'Maghrebis'
Why did this appear in the article heading?

"The Moors were simply Maghrebis, inhabitants of the maghreb, the western part of the Islamic world, that extends from Spain to Tunisia, and represents a homogeneous cultural entity."

Spain has never been part of the Maghreb, Spain is part of Europe. What do you think?

Blade and the rest (talk) 07:53, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know who wrote this (you could check the history of the page to find out), and it wasn't my edit which included it. I note that your edit which shows that you removed a referenced comment. 'From Spain' does not necessarily mean 'including Spain', so I don't think that original text was grossly in error; perhaps the intended meaning was 'from the borders of Spain' (although that would have to be a sea border!). Klbrain (talk) 11:29, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

April 2019

 * You are very observant; I had thought that my edit summary was sufficiently subtle to be missed; perhaps the ellipsis was a step too far. Or perhaps I shouldn't be editing after midnight ... Klbrain (talk) 18:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Sikh Philosophy Merger Closed
Hi, I noticed that you closed the merger discussion on this page as it had been silent for a long time. It appears that the discussion for merger was pretty much uncontested. Perhaps it would have been better to merge the pages before closing the discussion. What would be the best way forward regarding merger? Tindy1986 (talk) 22:57, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You're referring, I think, to Talk:Sikh philosophy, where you said merge 6 times, there was a don't merge from User:Smaines then a year of silence. So, in the presence of uncontested opposition and no support over more than 15 months I think that it was reasonable to close (about 8 months ago). What might be best in order to gather other expert opinions (I'm not an expert in Sikh philosophy) would be to put together a new merge proposal, add the templates in the usual way, and then request opinions at the most relevant project (WikiProject Sikhism). You could do this by posting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sikhism a summary of your argument a request for comment (so, make sure that you link to your new merge discussion). I also recommend watching the relevant talk pages so that you can respond to comments. Klbrain (talk) 08:36, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't merge. Clearly, I have not availed myself of the opportunity to engage here in a timely fashion. I apologize for expressing an interest, then letting things drift.
 * The article Sikh philosophy should be deleted. It is itself a meager stub with no real thought about what that topic should encompass. Merging these other articles will not accomplish that compass, and is not the proper way to address their shortcomings. As it is, the article is misnamed: if it were worth keeping, it should be titled Philosophy of Sikhism, or Sikhism (philosophy). As a rule, the target of a merge should be sufficiently finished to validate any proposed merger.  Merging into the void is unsound. It is premature. Prepare the merge target first.


 * I agree the small articles proposed for merger require attention. In particular, Prohibitions in Sikhism should evolve a bit further beyond listhood and controversy, else let it be merged outright, but into Sikhism.


 * I do remain convinced that the others should remain as separate articles. Compare treatment of Three Jewels, Four Noble Truths, Eightfold Path, including the redirects.
 * -SM 00:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Call for discussion
On July 4, 2016, you redirected Far East Shipping Company to Fesco Transport Group, with the edit summary "Bold merge to Fesco Transport Group following October 2012 proposal; not discussed in almost 4 years, but seems reasonable given the close relationship and short length of the pages."

Today I started the article on the Vasiliy Golovnin (ship), another FESCO vessel. I was going to add it to the list of vessels operated by the Far East Shipping Company, but I couldn't, because you had redirected it.

I don't think your redirection was a very good idea. Geo Swan (talk) 12:23, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Why not add it to the Fesco Transport Group page? All of the content that was on the Far East Shipping Company page was moved over to the Fesco page, so I don't think that anything has been lost. There's also the gallery of ships at Fesco Transport Group. Klbrain (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my merger proposal
Thanks for catching and fixing my rookie mistake of posting the merge template on the talk pages instead of the articles themselves; appreciate the help! Balon Greyjoy (talk) 04:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem at all; that's something that happens somewhere a few times a week, and it's on my gromish list of tasks to fix. They're easy to spot as they turn up as undated talk entries at Category:Articles_to_be_merged. Klbrain (talk) 07:25, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Mergers
Hi Klbrain, I recently nominated four articles for merging and wondered if you know how long it usually takes for proposed mergers to be discussed and/or happen? Cheers, Theo Mandela (talk) 04:14, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Times for completion are really variable; if it's a well-watched page, and there is someone who is familiar with the process (or willing to follow the instructions at Merging), then it can be done in days. Otherwise it can take up to 18 months. I've been specializing in the clearing the backlog (there used to be more than a 3.5 year tail), but we still have a way to go before this gets under control. You can see the list of outstanding proposals at Category:Articles_to_be_merged.
 * I suggest that if you've had no objections over the course of a month, then it would be fine to do it yourself. If there's clear support, then it could reasonably be done within a few days of proposal. Klbrain (talk) 06:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess that you were referring to Rigano, Majorana and their friends. Please also note that when proposing multi-page merges, you should add an explicit discussion link in the template: otherwise the discussion can be spread over multiple talk pages, which doesn't lead to coherent discussion (in this case, I've added the discussion template). You should also start a discussion on the talk page; I've started one, with an oppose, explaining why. Klbrain (talk) 07:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Noted, and many thanks for all your help. Theo Mandela (talk) 08:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Mandarin merge
Your removal of the merge proposal flag from Mandarin orange cited in the edit summary a closure of a formal proposal as No consensus. No such formal closure ever took place of the discussion of a possible Mandarin orange/Tangerine merge, the majority of which is found at Talk:Mandarin_orange. You were perhaps misled by an entirely separate merger proposal between Mandarin orange and Mandarin orange (fruit), which did indeed proceed formally and was closed, yet even this was closed in favor of merging the articles (since performed). The informally-proposed Tangerine merger was never addressed in the formal proposal, discussion and close that you cite regarding the (fruit) article. Agricolae (talk) 20:04, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right that I hadn't seen the discussion from October/November 2018 discussion because it was in a section which arose from a stale 2007-2012 discussion. I also note that this was re-started in that location after the 2018 discussion (Talk:Mandarin orange), in which you also participated, was formally closed. I'm happy to reverse my merge template removal and continue discussion; perhaps that October 2018-ongoing discussion could be moved into a new section and placed in chronocological order, as it is a separate (2018) proposal rather than a continuation of the 2007 proposal. Klbrain (talk) 20:29, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I realize it was confusing. I came to it from the flag on the Tangerine page, after the other discussion closed, and you are right, it probably should have been restarted and the tag modified to the new target, rather than just going where the flag took me.  Probably ought to be formalized, just to get it off the table, one way or the other. (I suspect it will indeed end in no consensus.) Agricolae (talk) 20:34, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, created a new section for the October 2018 onwards discussion; now at Talk:Mandarin orange. Klbrain (talk) 20:42, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Macaulay2 / Macaulay merge
Thank you for fixing my misuse of templates on the Macaulay2/Macaulay merge. (I'm pretty new!) Since it had been a week with only a positive comment (and since these pages aren't so high profile), I went ahead and performed the merge. Perhaps you'd be willing to look and make sure I didn't make any more mistakes? Thanks! Russ Woodroofe (talk) 17:49, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You were quite right to push on with a merge, having had support, no objections, and having left the templates for long enough for interested people to see them. The merge looks good; you've also done the right things with the templates on both talk pages. The only addition (which I've added) is to format the phrase of the redirected title in bold at its first appearance in the target. This is so that readers can understand why they have been redirected to this particular section (by seeing this name/phrase they've just come from being highlighted in the text). In this particular case, I think that its fine to just put Macaulay in bold rather than Macaulay computer algebra system. Klbrain (talk) 20:40, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Long_combination_vehicle merge to Road Train
Talk:Long_combination_vehicle is a one liner from $2 1⁄2$ years ago that nobody responded to. If you are serious about merging then you should at least restart the conversation with your own reasons why it should happen.  Stepho  talk 22:25, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Another way of looking at it was that it was uncontested proposal with the merge proposal still open (I just added the template to the page that wasn't already tagged; it was already present on Long combination vehicle). The stated case seemed reasonable, if briefly expressed; the two terms seem to be synonyms. Klbrain (talk) 07:33, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Race 07
Hi! Regarding your merge proposals, I have merged STCC The Game as it absolutely fails WP:GNG and isn't worthy for a standalone article.

On the other side, GTR Evolution seems like a clear keep to me, which surprised me. I have found numerous reliable sources (either listed in WP:VG/RS or foreign magazines) in multiple languages:, , , , , , , , , , , , and that was within 5 minutes of me searching.

Race On...eh. I found 4 reliable WP:SIGCOV reviews, , ,. Not as notable as GTR Evolution, but not as non-notable as STCC is. Not sure.

Anyways, tell me your opinion about these two, but I certainly oppose the merge for GTR Evolution at minimum. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm quite relaxed about keeping the pages separate given that you've found notable sources (non-routine reviews) independent of the gamemakers. So, I'm very happy for you to oppose the merge given the above cases, and then agree to keep them separate. Klbrain (talk) 10:41, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have done some work on GTR Evolution by adding some of those refs in, expanded the table, cut a huge amount of WP:GAMECRUFT that included list of cars and such, with some gameplay info in. Will try to get back to Race On when I have some time. Cheers, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:17, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

South Audley Street
Hi. I've undone your merge on this article. The sole comment is "Not notable in itself" which is an incredibly weak reason, and easily refuted by me expanding the article fivefold in about half an hour. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:45, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Can't agree with you that notability is unimportant; the first line of Notability is: On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article. So, there is no better criteria for determining whether a page warrants its own page than notability. Klbrain (talk) 16:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * PS: as surely you know ... Klbrain (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not what I meant - I meant "It's just not notable" is an argument to avoid in these sorts of discussions. I've seen write a lot of London article stubs, and I'm usually confident that what he starts can be further improve to a comprehensive article. There's pages and pages of listed building information in the National Heritage List for England that hasn't been sourced yet too. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:21, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with the distinction between current page content and true notability. My argument was that there isn't material on South Audley Street (which you've expertly expanded over the last 24 hours) which couldn't be just as easily discussed in Mayfair. However, I accept that there is no one solution to the lumpers-versus-splitters problem. Despite appearances, I do try to avoid being a mergist! I'm also not very impressed by the someone slept here 150 years ago as something worthy of encyclopaedic attention. Klbrain (talk) 10:29, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * If you mean Caroline of Brunswick, that's not really fair - her residence in South Audley Street is documented in the NHLE, there is a famous picture of her there in the National Portrait Gallery, and a further print in the British Museum. If that's not "worthy of encyclopaedic attention", I don't know what is! <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  10:45, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not questioning that Caroline of Brunswick is notable. Of the pictures you link, the first doesn't mention the street and the second doesn't show the street; it does, however, show a shawl. That does not, however, mean that Caroline of Brunswick's shawl deserves a Wikipedia page. Klbrain (talk) 10:57, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Well of course it doesn't; I think we're talking at cross-purposes. I was simply disagreeing with (what I thought was) your opinion that a temporary residence for a Queen Consort shouldn't be mentioned on the South Audley Street article. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:51, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Akane Yamaguchi
Hello. Help add citations and copy edit. Thanks you. 115.78.230.128 (talk) 07:47, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Not my area of expertise, I'm afraid. Klbrain (talk) 07:50, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

London Ringways
I don't suppose you can close out the discussion at Talk:London Ringways? It's been stalled for months. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:30, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Not just yet; the merge templates weren't put up on the 4 ringway pages, so I've added them in order to generate further discussion (and to ensure that the merge isn't contested given that it wasn't posted on target and source pages). Klbrain (talk) 18:55, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Baskin-Robbins
Hello, Klbrain! Thanks again for updating the Baskin-Robbins article per my recent edit request. I was wondering if you'd be willing to review my request at Talk:Baskin-Robbins/Archive 1 as well. The article is a bit outdated so I'm trying to suggest a few improvements. Thanks again! EC at Dunkin&#39; Brands (talk) 15:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Requst at BCW (Burson Cohn & Wolfe)
Hi, User:Klbrain! Thank you for all your help so far in getting the Burson Cohn & Wolfe article in better shape following the merger of the Burson-Marsteller and Cohn & Wolfe articles. I have a final request to complete the merged article, after which the article should be much more clear. As an employee of BCW, I have a Conflict of interest, which is why I'm requesting assistance from others. I would appreciate it if you could review the request because you are familiar with the work on the page so far. Thank you for your consideration! BCW Editor (talk) 20:07, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!
Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Peace Dove

 * Happy Christmas! Klbrain (talk) 15:33, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Short-time Fourier transform
Hi! So regarding this edit summary, I thought the IP was agreeing with me in that the "rectangular" page shouldn't be a standalone article, and thus that it should be merged into the main "short-time" article? Enterprisey (talk!) 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I did hum and ha about this one ... I think that 2602:47:D41C:EB00:9CF9:7351:89AC:6EA0 was just annoyed at the template cluttering the page. They say That article isn't even notable, but that's also a reason for deletion rather than merge. My interpretation of their comment was that content on Rectangular mask short-time Fourier transform wasn't helpful, and so merging into Short-time Fourier transform would make that page worse; there are no inline references, and the one reference isn't to a reliable site (looks like Jian-Jiun Ding's National Taiwan University site for a collection of tutorial problems). So, my reading was that the IP user removed the template (without completing the merge) because she/he didn't think that the merge was warranted. Should we tag Rectangular mask short-time Fourier transform for deletion; or do you think that a redirect without a merge would be better? Or another suggestion? Klbrain (talk) 11:38, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Colin Lamont page
Whoever merged Scottie McClue and Colin Lamont pages has made a massive error of judgement as the two are totally separate entities creatively and culturally. This needs looking at and reversing the pages were right for many years. It also makes a mockery of Wikipedia as when one searches for Scottie McClue one gets Colin Lamont which will mean nothing to them. It should be reversed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.54.16.243 (talk) 23:29, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that that merge has upset you. That merge was completed about 9 months ago, in response to a 2017 proposal (see the October 2017 version of Colin's page) which was uncontested for two years. I'd expressed an intention to merge (given that there had been no objections over the course of 15 months), which you will have seen at Talk:Colin Lamont. That seems to me to be a reasonable course of action.


 * Also, I can't agree with your claim that when one searches for Scottie McClue one gets Colin Lamont which will mean nothing to them, as Scottie McClue is linked to its own Scottie McClue section of Colin's page. The first sentence is then the referenced: "Scottie McClue is the on-air persona of Colin Lamont". This makes the association very clear to uninformed readers; while it may come as a surprise to some fans that Scottie McClue is a persona, Wikipedia has taken a policy against the use of spoilers as it is an encyclopaedia rather than an in-universe fandom.


 * Regarding the request for a reverse, I don't think that this is appropriate given the 9 months of editing which has occurred in the interim. Perhaps you could propose a SPLIT. Klbrain (talk) 06:18, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Let's continue this on the relevant article talk page section: Talk:Colin Lamont. Klbrain (talk) 06:35, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Re Scottie McClue Vandalism of 2 pages and refusal to put things right again Again it makes absolutely no sense to merege these pages as one is an relatively unknown academic while the other is an international broadcaster. Why on earth did you merge them in the first place? as I say it makes a mockery of Wikipedia. If I am searching for a subject I don't expect to get something totally different. Given your reasoning any 'pseudonym' ot 'nom de plume' for writers should throw up another name. in that case each incidence of this should be changed but a credible reason should be given. These pages existed for about 8 years without conflict until your unsolicited editing. perhaps you could provide some explanation for your actions and idicate if similar 'vandalism' is going to occur on the pages others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.143.9 (talk) 17:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your constructive feedback. You're referring, of course, to Scottie McClue. You've also copy/pasted this comment onto the relevant talk page (2017 merge proposal), so it might be best if I responded over there. Klbrain (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

 * You are too kind! Klbrain (talk) 19:12, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Notable alumni
Hello Klbrain, You removed tags related to notable alumni of James Ruse Agricultural High School. To be included in the list each name needs a reliable source that confirms they attended the school. You added some citations but they do not seem to mention the high school. I've restored the tags. Perhaps I've missed something. If so please let me know. Gab4gab (talk) 15:43, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * All of those on the list have their own pages, category tagged with the school and each with their own set of references. It does seem rather inefficient to duplicate such content. This also doesn't seems to be the policy elsewhere; for example, the nearby The King's School, Parramatta has an alumni list where most of the alumni don't have reference on that page demonstrating their training at the school. Is there a particular alumnus you object to? Klbrain (talk) 18:57, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Case for citations
Hi, just a note to say that we like to put citations in Title Case not ALL CAPITALS. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting that issue in my edit on Ammonoidea; I absolutely agree. I had used an automated importer, and would usually change the case, but am on a device where that is more difficult. I'll try to be less lazy! Klbrain (talk) 09:42, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Domestic terrorism in the United States
I'm surprised that you tried to improve the IP's edit - the source didn't discuss domestic terrorism, let alone compare right and left wing domestic terrorism. Ping me please if you reply. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 13:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I did think that it was a jolly marginal contribution by the IP (on Domestic terrorism in the United States), and was indeed about to delete it. The issue for me was that the claim was referenced; I checked the reference, and it certainly supported the tenor of the statement of the IP, which I attempted to soften. However, I accept that the word "terrorism" was not used in the article. So, I don't mind being reversed on this one. Klbrain (talk) 13:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's word we need to use very carefully and only with strong sources. Doug Weller  talk 13:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

D’s contracture
While I hold a deep and sincere respect for those in what I infer to be your profession, my experience has shown me that the talents that make its practice possible do not guarantee omniscience. And I’ve concluded that you have not edited here for ten years without deserving respect as an editorial colleague. On the other hand, I also have been personally mentored, albeit briefly, by Dr. Andrew S. Grove, probably significantly affected the course of ITT Corporation’s disgraceful collapse (by displaying more integrity than the manager above me, in the conglomerate’sattempt at emulating the innovation unit known as Bell Labs — even if I left no mark at General Electric’s R&D Center. JerzyA (talk) 09:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for continuing to improve Wikipedia; I certainly hope that you continue to do so! I think that your concerns relate to me reversing this edit of yours at Dupuytren's contracture. If you look at that diff, you can see that you broke a reference, there were a few punctuation problems, and you expanded the text without significantly changing the meaning. Having concise text is helpful for readers. So, perhaps on this particular edit our opinions differ, but I certainly support your overall attempts to improve the encyclopaedia. Klbrain (talk) 10:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Christ Church, Oxford
Confused by your edit! Your summary is “Students is correct in this context; proper noun to distinguish from students”, but the change you made was from “Students” to “students”. Would you undo that? Moonraker (talk) 05:45, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Done; sorry about that; I must have been asleep ... Klbrain (talk) 05:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Note
Don't give miss information. Sanjay Bhoiya (talk) 14:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Misinformation? Can I check what your usual account is, as you seem to have contacted me from a single-purpose (single edit) account (noting your contributions). Klbrain (talk) 14:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Merge about clinical trial registration
I have a question for you at Talk:Preregistration. Also, thanks for editing medical articles on Wikipedia regularly, and thanks for taking up administrative tasks like merges for these articles.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  12:02, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for directing me to that discussion; I've responded on that talk page (yes, I have reversed). Klbrain (talk) 16:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

You signed a boilerplate Wikipedia welcome on my IP-address talk page for some contributions I made to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact at 15:08 (UTC) on 20 April 2020.

In an effort to look for a way to reciprocate your act of kindness, I came here (to your talk page) where I found the following sentence:

"I don't consider myself neither a mergist nor a separatist [sic], but do consider than [sic] long-standing problems should be resolved one way or another."

Since I cannot edit your page (I tried), and since I think the sentence above could be better, I'm sending you this message. At the very least, I suggest the following two changes: (1) avoid the double negative construction "don't...neither...nor"; (2) "than" is a typo for "that".

Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.1.239 (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks.
You signed a boilerplate Wikipedia welcome on my IP-address talk page for some contributions I made to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact at 15:08 (UTC) on 20 April 2020.

In an effort to look for a way to reciprocate your act of kindness, I came here (to your talk page) where I found the following sentence:

"I don't consider myself neither a mergist nor a separatist [sic], but do consider than [sic] long-standing problems should be resolved one way or another."

Since I cannot edit your page (I tried), and since I think the sentence above could be better, I'm sending you this message. At the very least, I suggest the following two changes: (1) avoid the double negative construction "don't...neither...nor"; (2) "than" is a typo for "that".

Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.1.239 (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing out the problems here; that sentence was written some time ago, in a hurry, and certainly needed fixing. Klbrain (talk) 12:17, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

DLB
Klbrain, per the discussion about habit cough (helpful, thank you!), I have just noticed that your area is pharmacology and the autonomic nervous system. After a two-year collaboration involving dozens of editors, I have dementia with Lewy bodies about ready to submit to featured article candidates. Could I entice you to look it over ? Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Closure
Hello Klbrain. Thanks for taking on the merger. Could you expand your closing message to say what the two articles are that are not being merged? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:02, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure (noting that this relates to Bosanska Krajina and Turkish Croatia); WP:N; I've added that. Having read through the many comments, the key theme is that while these are overlapping areas, they are not identical and have independent notability. I note the accusations of canvassing there, and that this is obviously a very contentious topic, but I certainly can't see a consensus for a merge, and there has been nothing but opposition for some time. Klbrain (talk) 21:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Looked a little more into this; I note that one of the merge templates was taken down on 14th April with this edit; not with the most transparent edit summary there. Quite a minefield. Do you think that reversing the close and going to the Administrators noticeboard would be better? Klbrain (talk) 21:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If the merger discussion has been open since August 2019 I don't see the need to reverse the closure. But still, your message at Talk:Bosanska Krajina ought to say in so many words that Bosanska Krajina and Turkish Croatia are the two articles that are not being merged. The underlying issue is messy, but as the closer, you can't be any more decisive than the participants were. EdJohnston (talk) 21:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, and, this discussion closure is long overdue. But, please, if I may, let me point to one aspect of this messy affair, which you acknowledged but didn't dwell on it to much, although problem is much bigger than this discussion reveals: editors Silverije, Čeha and Mikola were very active in canvasing, using Croatian wikipedia project as particular sort of forum for solicitation of support in this situations and other like this one. Also, note how neutral/uninvolved maybe even just simply passing-by DraconicDark inserted comment in form of alert addressed to me. For whole picture on canvasing see my own comprehensive analysis of this practice ongoing at hr.wikipedia pages - it may look overwhelming in scope but I felt it may be necessary (it has English translation; EdJohnston, you just recently asked Sadko if he could provide some translations on some passages from Croatian/hr.wikipedia, so, maybe you will find this report of mine intriguing). Only two opposing editors were neutral and uninvolved, as much as I am able to discern, and one of them actually opposed "Deletion" and suggested "Merger", so I had to comment on his vote-post simply to point on that misunderstanding. All other editors who opposed came from hr.wikipedia, responding to solicitation. Thanks, and take care.-- ౪ Santa ౪  99°  22:23, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification; something of that sort was clear. That conversation was so swamped with oppose arguments, which I felt had some merit, regardless of canvassing, and so few for, that I didn't think that there was consensus to merge, nor was there likely to be. I respect the work you're doing! Klbrain (talk) 04:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Primes merge
About the newly merged article Safe and Sophie Germain primes -- more work is needed to complete the merge; there are references that point back to the article Sophie Germain prime, and the "modular restrictions" and "properties" sections surely should be merged, and maybe more. --JBL (talk) 14:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the pointers; I've tidied further. Klbrain (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! —JBL (talk) 11:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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.. for moving the merge template to the proper place in the article N*gga. --82.21.97.70 (talk) 23:46, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem; it's a common issue I screen for from time to time. Klbrain (talk) 09:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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Matchbox
Hi Klbrain, I saw that you merged matchbox into phillumeny. What do you think about merging it with matchbox (disambiguation) instead? We don't have much more than a dictionary definition of "matchbox" at phillumeny, and I think the disambiguation page would be more useful as a first destination for those searching for "matchbox". Tim Smith (talk) 04:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Absolutely agree that it only a dictionary definition, which is why it doesn't currently warrant its own page. The problem with a redirect to a disambiguation page is that there is a primary meaning for matchbox, and hence redirecting the term to a disambiguation page shouldn't be necessary - that is nothing ambiguous about the current matchbox links, in the sense that the authors of the 70+ referring articles had a precise meaning in mind. I'll add a template:Other uses to that phillumeny section; perhaps that suffices? Klbrain (talk) 05:34, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That is an improvement, thanks! Tim Smith (talk) 02:16, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

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Merging articles, education system in Tunisia and universities.
Hello, Dear Klbrain,

I just noticed that you merged these four articles which listed here :


 * National School of Computer Sciences
 * Faculty of Medicine of Sfax
 * Tunis Preparatory Engineering Institute
 * National Engineering School of Gabès

I didn't get any notifications about these merges. However, education system in Tunisia is a bit different, these "universities" such as (Manouba University, University of Sfax and University of Gabès..) was mainly built for bureaucratic oversight for each governorate. There is already a previous discussion about these universities and this topic here, and as it was mentioned in WP:NFACULTY "If some faculties or academic colleges have significance and others do not, it may be the case that the institution's academic programs as a whole are notable". For example the National School of Computer Sciences was established in 1984 despite that the Manouba University was established in 2000 which doesn't make sense. Each of these articles that i mentioned above already have notable separate articles in french Wikipedia. Well, the merge suggestions was made long ago and the articles already been reviewed and i guess the merge discussions were not closed for each article. I think Mccapra also knows about this thread.

Withal, in case, is it possible to undo the merge, and do all the necessary ? your help is appreciated.

Best regards --  Metalmed  Talk.. 13:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm a little confused, as you seem previously to have expressed support for some of the merges. For example, see your 23rd January comment at:
 * Talk:Manouba University
 * For all of these pages, the same WP:NFACULTY argument applies and my view is that this is very valid; they remained unopposed for more than 6 months, and relevant discussions had been started with a relevant policy argument. Therefore, I'd suggest proposing a WP:SPLIT if this is something you feel strongly about. My view is that this isn't warranted, as the currently available material is so brief as to be best discussed within the context of the wider organizational structure. Klbrain (talk) 16:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Klbrain (talk) 16:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, you are totally right about the confusion, i wasn't used to the policies and guidelines at that time in January, and i didn't even know what merging was about. Anyhow, my main focus is that all these articles potentially passes the WP:NFACULTY as mentioned in the discussion, providing the definition of these tunisian "Universities"'s main purposes and meaning, contrary to the usual meaning. They clearly remained unopposed because they weren't checked by the project members. However these schools/institutes/faculties meets with the actual english meaning of the word university, were established way before and more notable than these so called "universities" such as the University of Manouba. However, we might keep it merged if it's suitable or maybe do a WP:SPLIT proposition, i will wait for more opinions from the project members (Moumou82, Mccapra ) to open a further discussion about this topic in the project.


 * Many thanks Klbrain.--  Metalmed  Talk.. 20:31, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me. It might also help to build the case for independent notability if the article was expanded using references independent of the source(s). At the moment they're very small, so the merge reason "short text" also applies. Klbrain (talk) 21:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I would think a merge makes sense when the previously separate articles were so short. This does not mean this cannot evolve as Kibrain pointed out. Moumou82 (talk) 07:40, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes i agree, so we keep expanding these within the main article and once an article is fully expanded and long we make a split in the future. Thanks --  Metalmed  Talk.. 14:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks for pinging me. My view is that when each institution was founded us not that important. What matters is how much coverage it has received in reliable independent sources is what counts. There’s no objection to de-merging in future if the sections expand and demonstrate sufficient notability. Until then I think keeping them merged makes sense. All the best Mccapra (talk) 20:34, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Merging Data-driven Journalism to Data Journalism
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On walking with
i support removing the merge label i think the articles should remain separate i did not know it was being discussed i ams sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendlyhistorian (talk • contribs) 09:37, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem at all! Klbrain (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, I just added another comment regarding the proposed merge of Organizing for America and Organizing for Action. Would love to hear your thoughts: Talk:Organizing_for_Action. Llightex (talk) 13:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Commented. Klbrain (talk) 17:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Rocky Hollow Log Ride merger
Hi, I believe that the Rocky Hollow Log Ride Ride article should remain as a article and not a redirect. The Rocky Hollow Log Ride is a famous amusment park ride in the Australian state of Queensland that had been operating for almost 40 years therefore I believe that it deserves its own article. I believe that the merger request was directed at the Rocky Hollow article as that was the themed area that merged with Gold Rush Country Thanks ThePoi (talk) 21:21, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The proposal to merge had been open since March 2020 and had received only support (see Talk:Gold Rush Country; however, feel free to formally propose a split. Klbrain (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Is there a way for me to improve the article instead of proposing a split or can I only improve the article if the proposal succeeds? ThePoi (talk) 22:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You can certainly improve the section where it is, then propose split, having demonstrated more strongly that there are reliable references that justify separate coverage. Klbrain (talk) 22:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Sorry for my mistake. Now I have seen that you have merged that page. I'm really sorry. I have stuck on this problem from the last 10 hours. I tried so hard but couldn't get any solution. Now, wish you to join me in finding out the actual author of the copyrighted material. It will be very helpful if you will look into the matter. – Kamilalibhat (talk) 04:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem; easily missed when you're focussing on something else. Alas, no time at present to help on that copyright quest, but if it was from the other page and introduced with the merge, try the history page at Harissa (dish): history. Klbrain (talk) 08:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, you've got me intrigued ... I think that that website, or at least chucks of it was a 2016 copy of the 2015 version of Harissa (dish). Klbrain (talk) 08:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No I couldn't find the actual author or someone else who wrote it in chunks. Or, maybe, it is written by many people and it will be a coincidence that they are copying from the same website. I don't know what to do now. I really got stuck. – Kamilalibhat (talk) 09:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that that site copied from older versions of Wikipedia, so the violation is from that site, not from Wikipedia authors. So, I recommend closing the copyvio case, marking discussion page with Backwards copy. Klbrain (talk) 09:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Proposed merge of USV Holland into DHSC (football club)
Hi, you performed the merge using the argument "Closing 2020 merge proposal; uncontested opposition and no support"

I clearly opposed to the merge, see Talk:DHSC (football_club). Which means 1 vote in favor and 1 vote against the merge. So, why was the merge performed anyway when there's clearly no consensys, and on top of that, a false argument for doing so listed? --Sb008 (talk) 00:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Seems I misinterpretated your statement. You only closed the discussion and didn't perform a merger. --Sb008 (talk) 01:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem; I agree with you that there was no consensus for the merge, which is why I closed it without merging. Klbrain (talk) 01:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Nizam of Hyderabad
Hello Thank you for finding the merge discussion for this and fixing the merge tag. Interestingly, the discussion pre-dates the tag by about two years: Go figure... Regards, Moonraker12 (talk) 14:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone added a comment on the talk page without adding templates on the article page, and this was spotted 2 year later. Klbrain (talk) 14:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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"Stale" merger proposal
Hello, you removed a merge proposal last year saying "Closing stale 2019 merge proposal; no case made, no support over almost a year)". I'm not sure what you mean by "no case made". There were six sources all clearly saying that "Algebraic normal form" and "Zhegalkin polynomial" are two names for the same thing. There was no opposition to the proposal. A different way of summarizing the merge proposal and its discussion would be: "Unopposed merge proposal supported by six reliable sources."

The main problem here was, I guess, that the proposal wasn't sufficiently publicized. I daresay that anyone who knows anything at all about Boolean logic would immediately see that the two articles are talking about exactly the same thing with only a slight difference in notation.

I would have appreciated the courtesy of a ping when you closed the proposal. I guess I missed the news in my Watchlist. At this point, I plan to be WP:BOLD and go ahead with this merger... when I find the time. --Macrakis (talk) 20:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I note that you've linked to an archived discussion page, so you'll know that the discussion was archived as stale long before I saw it. The talk page is blank and there is no archive link on the page; archive bot says that its set for 365 day archiving, and there is no archiving link. So:


 * When you make a proposal, I suggest that you manage it on a timescale faster than a year
 * That you take into account that archiving means that your proposal will no longer be visible to readers/editors, unless they go hunting the archives.
 * That you watch pages you've put proposals on.
 * In order to help manage that page, added a template:Archive list to the talk page you've used, so that other readers can find the archived content; it wasn't otherwise easy to find. Klbrain (talk) 10:16, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It was certainly my error (as I said) to have missed the changes on my watchlist (which has thousands of pages on it).
 * I'm not suggesting you did anything wrong -- it would just have been nice to get a courtesy ping. --Macrakis (talk) 16:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Scottie McClue Colin Lamont Merger Causing Terrific Confusion For Searchers Needing Fixed asap
/* Scottie McClue */ someone had vandalized the pages by merging them into one so that when you search Scottie McClue you get Colin Lamont which defeats the purpose of Wiki and causes terrific confusion to searchers can this be fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Great Rivers (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is any conceivable way someone would be confused, let alone a researcher. Scottie McClue redirects to a clearly described section Colin Lamont. As you know, the merge was discussed at length, resulting in a consensus to merge; noting also that yours is a single-purpose account. Feigning ignorance, and pretending urgent surprise, is inconsistent with your edit history at Talk:Colin Lamont. Klbrain (talk) 22:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thanks for the barnstar; you've recognized my obsession too! ;) Klbrain (talk) 16:21, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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Medici Chapel merge proposal
I have assessed consensus. This has waited for a simple close for far too long. It is closed as Merge. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 17:30, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the close, and clearly outlined justification. Klbrain (talk) 15:45, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

armidale schools
try reverse foundation dates, which you didn't re-order (by one year), minor, the latter schools are also reverse order (already) Dave Rave (talk) 18:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry; I should have been more systematic in my approach! Correct now to be more consistent and correct. Klbrain (talk) 19:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Antagonist vs. blocker
Now I'm curious. So what's the difference between an antagonist and a blocker? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 07:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Traditionally, the term blocker was used (at least in UK Pharmacology) only for ion channels, but the clinical world the term beta blocker became widespread (for what I was taught to call beta adrenoceptor antagonist). The term antagonist, however, applies to all receptor sites include those on ions channels (see International Union of Pharmacology Committee on Receptor Nomenclature and Drug Classification. XXXVIII. Update on Terms and Symbols in Quantitative Pharmacology), which uses antagonist and doesn't define blocker at all.


 * Rang, the textbook most widely used in the UK for teaching undergraduate pharmacology, in chapter 2, when describing drug action, uses only the term antagonist (not using blocker at all). In the chapter on ion channels, 'block' of ion channels is used, but even here blocker isn't, as it's seen as a colloquialism.


 * Over the last 10-20 years use of blocker has spread for all receptors, particularly among clinicians, and the dying breed of pharmacologists doesn't stand much of a chance in stemming the tide of nomenclature drift. Neverless, at least where I teaching in the UK we make clear the historic distinction, which acknowledging current trends. Klbrain (talk) 14:23, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Super Sentai
Hey, thanks for closing my merge discussion and for going through all the associated pages to remove the notice. —151.132.206.250 (talk) 13:23, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * That's fine; happy editing! Klbrain (talk) 17:16, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

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List of Kamen Rider Ghost characters
Hello Klbrain, I've just noticed that it seems you did not receive my ping in this discussion. I was interested to hear if this clarification of the merge proposal would change your view of it. It seems to me that we have the same result in mind, but there may or may not (I'm hoping not) be disagreement about the procedure by which to achieve that result. Kind regards from  PJvanMill ) talk ( 23:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I've responded over there (with a switch to support). Klbrain (talk) 10:23, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for replying, and glad we agree . Kind regards from  PJvanMill ) talk ( 13:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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FYI
Sorry to bother you with this, but I have had to mention you in this ANI discussion which relates to your recent merger completion. Please join the discussion if you wish to do so. Thanks. No Great Shaker (talk) 14:08, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. Discussion there seems to be heading in a sensible direction, with unreferenced material being challenged. Klbrain (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for merging
Thank you for following up on my merger proposals at Police procedural and Attention (advertising), which I should have done myself but never got around to. Meticulo (talk) 13:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem! I often do those merges rather simply, so please do refine in situ! Klbrain (talk) 16:16, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Compote merger
Please finish the process by adding a rationale to the talk page(s). <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I didn't propose the merger; did. Secondly, there is already a rationale statement, at Talk:Compote. It has been there since January. As you'll see from the edit history, my action was to move the misplaced templates from the talk page to the article page. However, I can see how you might have missed this, as one of the two merge templates was pointing to the wrong talk page. I've fixed this now. Klbrain (talk) 11:08, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Stale Mergers
You seriously think that, Reason: more readers are likely to search and find faster the words "10 warriors", or "giant warriors" in a search engine than the specific keyword "Vijithapura" next to "battle", to find the data by a fly-by IP editor is serious enough and grounded in policy to warrant a reply? TrangaBellam (talk) 05:16, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I do seriously think that you proposal (related to the Battle of Vijithapura) had no support and there was an objection in April, to which neither you nor any other editor responded. I also think that one shouldn't dismiss the thoughts of others out-of-hand. However, I don't mind you re-opening the discussion; perhaps you could generate some more interest by advertising the discussion on the Wikiproject. Klbrain (talk) 07:57, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Your Merger proposal
My work is an original done through painstaking reasearch of the subject for max authencity and full fledged and not a copycat work. Please note, hence, your merger proposal is not acceptable. Sj2021c (talk) 14:06, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess that you're talking about the pages Rasa Clorinda and Clarinda the Christian Missionary. No-one is questioning your good works; the only question is when these two pages are talking about the same person. If they are (and I don't think that you're disputing this), then they should be merged so that all readers see your content when they're exploring this topic. See WP:MERGEREASON. Klbrain (talk) 22:53, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Merger
Hi, do you think you could do me a favour, please? When you have time, could you please perform the merger stated here? Of the two people who usually carry out the mergers requested at WP:PAM, one of them was the proposer, and the other (me) has some interest in the subject and also doesn't feel like they could do the merger properly. So it needs an independent third party to do the job. I'd be very grateful. Thank you. Richard3120 (talk) 15:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure; I should have time to do this over the next couple of days; September 2021 wasn't far off my merge 'to do' list away :) . Klbrain (talk) 15:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Merge close
I see you removed the merge tags for Talk:Norris,_Madison,_and_Fishing_Bridge_Museums. I have no problem with this, as there was no consensus and the discussion had clearly run its course, but just wondering if you commenting in the discussion rather than formally closing the discussion per WP:MERGECLOSE (i.e., using the Discussion top and Discussion bottom templates) was an intentional choice? If this was just an oversight, I can formally close the discussion, but just wanted to make sure there wasn't a reason behind doing it this way. Cheers, Mdewman6 (talk) 02:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It was a stylistic choice for an alternative, simpler closing method which I used when the discussion is so short that reading the discussion is trivial; however, given that you think that this example is unclear, I'll re-format in the traditional way. Klbrain (talk) 07:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Tentative Conclusion,
You know. . . after sloshing around in the backlog of AfD merge decisions, I'm beginning to believe that a lot of people who offer a resounding MERGE!!! comment have never actually merged anything. /snark Joyous! | Talk 17:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed; there is a lot of talk, and little action ... Klbrain (talk) 20:22, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I've begun a transformation into the Annoying Gadfly at recent AfDs. Which part should be merged? The whole thing? Just the sourced section? Just a mention? Should we add a new section? When you say "merge," do you really mean "redirect'?" And any number of other irritants. Joyous! | Talk 03:36, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I've tended to work on the non-AfD merge proposals by preference, knowing that the AfD ones can be particularly difficult; there is only so much one can do with poor, unreferenced content. I suppose that when an AfD outcome is not specific, then any particular action you make is reasonable; not merging unreferenced material, or that not supported by a RS, is entirely defensible. Klbrain (talk) 08:33, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Merge request
Greetings, Please can you review this merger nominations and proceed with merging?. Find discussion here. Thank you -- Robertjamal12   ~🔔  14:44, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I've commented on the talk page; it's not clear that these are actually describing the same person; yes, I know that the pictures are the same. Klbrain (talk) 15:04, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Close challenge
Hi Klbrain! I have to disagree with your close at this merge proposal. Your brief closing statement indicates that you made the assessment on the basis of significant opposition, but to my read, per WP:NOTVOTE, almost all the opposition can be discarded on the basis of not grounding its argument in any policy or guidance. Fundamentally, the oppose side failed to clear even the bar of articulating the difference it sees between a city centre and a downtown, leaving just the merge proponent side's argument that this is a textbook geographic fork. Are you open to reevaluating your close? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've had another look through the discussion, and I really can't see that there is anything like a consensus for a merge, after 14 months of discussion and without comments for 3 months. The others are not voting: they are making the case these are distinct topics, and hence should not be merged; your counterarguments were unable to change their view. Their views cannot therefore be so easily dismissed.
 * Back in September, you supported the alternative suggestion of moving Downtown to City centers in the United States, and it looked like consensus might have been reached, but subsequent discussion moved away from this. I was going to the suggest that perhaps a proposed move might now be a reasonable idea, but actually the COMMONNAME is probably Downtown (rather than City centers in the United States). So, why not just focus that page on the US, and make that clear in hatnotes? Klbrain (talk) 22:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Article subjects so narrowly defined as to create perpetual stubs
Apart from merging such articles into broader ones, how else can the stub tags ever disappear? DMBanks1 (talk) 23:38, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Just improve the article, and remove the stub template; see WP:DESTUB. Note that there isn't any particular procedure for this - just remove the tag once you think that the article has been sufficiently improved. Klbrain (talk) 23:44, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The reason nobody ever actually expands such articles is because the subject matter is so unimportant and obscure to even the knowledgeable, that even thorough research cannot uncover anything of substance to add. DMBanks1 (talk) 23:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * In which case, if the topic is genuinely unimportant and not supported by reliable sources, then the solution is deletion as un-encyclopaedic. Alternatively, if obscure but capable of being referenced, leaving stubs, awaiting avid enthusiasts in years to come, is perhaps the better approach. Those editors involved in education might consider stub improvement as a better task for projects than the new article approach, which frequently leads to essays rather than encyclopaedic entries. Klbrain (talk) 08:54, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Since deletion is an uphill battle in WP, merging with another article is a simpler solution. It also helps readers, who are often too narrow in their search criteria, to be redirected to the broader subject matter they are really seeking. Furthermore, a topic may well be unimportant alone, but when grouped with a series of similar subjects, their combined weight provides a credible article. Where nobody has commented on a merge proposal, it is important to realize that this is no different than the probability of winning the lottery. In such circumstances, not all reviewers carefully study the respective articles to determine the merit of the merge proposal before removing the merge tags. Consequently, the hundreds of thousands of perpetual stubs that already exist continue to grow rather than being culled. I am at a loss to even understand why WP allows the creation of stubs. If the originator knows so little about a subject that they can only create a stub or a half baked piece, the article should not have been created by that individual in the first place. Also, it is somewhat presumptuous to assume that enthusiasts exist who will later do the real work of resolving the problem which they have created. From my experience of examining thousands of WP articles, such remedial intervention is extremely rare. DMBanks1 (talk) 15:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I do hundreds of merges a year, so agree that it is often a good idea, and will resolve the issue of stubs. However, sometime a stub on a well-demarcated topic is more helpful to readers than having the information buried within a larger body of text. It depends ... that's why we have merge proposals and discussions. Klbrain (talk) 15:54, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * As already stated, the probability of anybody contributing to the discussion on a perpetual stub merger proposal is highly unlikely. Please clarify for my understanding with say a dozen examples of WP stubs where a merge tag has been removed because the topic is well demarcated. DMBanks1 (talk) 16:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Life's too short to follow your prescription to the letter. But take, for example Inverness Cathedral, a building and congregation with a history of 150 years; a naturally well-demarcated topic warranting improvement rather than merging. Klbrain (talk) 20:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Just back inside from shovelling snow. We would have preferred even a simple explanation of your criteria rather than selecting an example that nobody would ever consider merging. In editing, none of us should ever be disdainful in explaining our contributions. I wish you future success with your efforts. DMBanks1 (talk) 22:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, here are some more article that were long-stab stubs on minor topics that have been successfully expanded by hard-working, enthusiastic editors: Westham Island Bridge, Mission Bridge, Boat Encampment ... Please have faith that there are other editors who, like you, work hard to improve long-standing stubs on topics that some might initially dismiss as insignificant. Klbrain (talk) 08:28, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I suspect we have been talking at cross purposes. I am not seeking to discuss whether creating a stub is of any benefit to someone who chooses to later expand it for whatever reason, or to second guess whether a long established stub may or may not be a perpetual stub. My question is where a contributor has identified a stub for merger after conducting significant research of the topic and it is indisputable that the stub article (to the degree to which the content is not inaccurate) is merely a duplication of part of another quite slender article to which a merge proposal had been made. In such an instance, why would a reviewer casually dismiss the merger proposal without first carefully examining the respective articles to determine the merit of the proposal? DMBanks1 (talk) 16:36, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sure that such editors do exist, and I suggest approaching them on their talk pages if it's a systematic problem with their editing, or tackling the issue on the talk pages that relates to the merge you're concerned about. Klbrain (talk) 17:55, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

merge
Thanks for your edit on Nashya Shaikh article. It seems that no one is too bothered with my request. Can I just merge it myself seeing as there are no opponents? SalamAlayka (talk) 18:54, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If you think that it is obvious, then you can (see WP:MERGEPROP); if you think that it is contentious, it might be best to leave it for a while longer (given that one of the templates wasn't pointing to the place you started the discussion, and some editors won't comment if there isn't a case already made). Klbrain (talk) 18:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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Merge closure
Hi Klbrain, I noticed you marked this discussion as stale. I just wanted to make sure you were aware that you only marked the courtesy notification as stale, and the actual merge discussion was at Talk:Endemic COVID-19, which is still open and has a pending closure request at WP:CR. Rather than being stale with "no case made", I think everyone in the discussion would agree it's rather contentious instead. I'm grateful if you are indeed closing, but I wanted to make sure you saw the bulk of the discussion at its actual location prior to coming to a conclusion. Bakkster Man (talk) 00:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping; I've reverted, as we may not have seen the end of the discussion; I had missed it! I was a little thrown by the merge template on the talk page; they should be on the article page ... and that template seems to be missing. I'll add it on ... Klbrain (talk) 00:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I thought that might have been the case. Thanks! Bakkster Man (talk) 19:37, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposals with no discussion
A lot of the very recent merge proposals are tagged, but the editor didn't start a discussion anywhere. When you encounter that, do you start the discussion yourself? If so, do you have a boilerplate conversation starter? Joyous! | Talk 20:46, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the question, and all your positive work with the merge proposals. I don't tend to look at very recent proposals, but rather only ones that have been there for a while. I look at the proposed pages, and if the merge is obvious I start a discussion with a support, giving my reasons why; if it is very obvious, I sometimes just boldly merge. If the case isn't obvious, or could be contentious, I remove the templates on the grounds that no case has been made, and there has been no support. This is consistent with the description of delisting criteria at WikiProject Merge. Sorry; I don't have a boilerplate! Klbrain (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! Joyous! | Talk 01:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

De-merge/split
Hi Klbrain, I am new to Wikipedia but was hoping you, as an editor that looks very well versed in this area, could help explain how to undo a merge. I have read the talk page discussion for the merge of Ukrainian Rulers with List of Leaders of Ukraine and the motivations behind the merge, but given the brevity of time allowed to submit an opinion on the merge and the difference in content between the two topics I really feel that the two articles should be separate. This is standard practice for most countries, leaders of Ukraine are not necessarily Ukrainian, and Ukrainian rulers are not necessarily leaders of Ukraine. This difference is expressed with regard to Russian political entities all the way to Indonesian political entities.Friendofthearticle (talk) 11:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Friendofthearticle
 * Thanks for asking about this. I can't quite follow your argument about brevity of time allowed; my view is that 12 months (from December 2021 to December 2022) should have been sufficient (see Talk:List of Ukrainian rulers). To most readers, the concept of a 'ruler who is not a leader' might seem to be an odd description, but you might well be right - if so, the distinction can be made on the article pages. You say the content was different, but actually there was already a lot of duplication (for the leaders article and for the rulers pre-merge). For example, both articles covered the a similar set of rulers/leaders in the 20th and 21st century (both including Zelenskyy, for example). If the merge discussion had indeed been brief, I would have reversed the merge, but as there was no opposition over more than a year, I think that a better procedure (should you wish to pursue it) would be to propose a split, starting a new discussion. Klbrain (talk) 12:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Scythians merger proposal
Regarding the note that you added on closing the merger proposal, I can't see how was there any consensus or even a majority opinion to "distinguish the content." The discussion has instead been inconclusive and did not result in any significant agreement regarding which steps to take. Antiquistik (talk) 08:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It is difficult to satisfy all parties in a discussion that took over 6000 words over more than 6 months (Talk:Scythians), and in which you were heavily invested. Looking at the edit history on the article pages, I note that there are several editors actively working to improve the pages, so that seems to be preferred direction-of-travel. There was certainly no consensus to merge, so if you prefer to view this as a close with no merge given no consensus with stale discussion then that would also be very reasonable. Klbrain (talk) 08:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Close with no consensus with stale discussion would indeed be more neutral and therefore preferable. Antiquistik (talk) 11:23, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for ending the merger discussion on merging Libraries and librarians in fiction into Librarians in popular culture
I'm glad that the discussion has ended. However, it would have been a bit better if the merger was completed in the entirety, like removing/combining duplicate refs, which I did in my edits today, and adding the eight entries about "information on libraries/librarians" in seven anime and one manga. In that discussion, I also noted duplicates "on the Librarians in popular culture page". I guess my thought was that the duplicates would be removed, while keeping the others? That was my thought, but I didn't directly state that in the discussion. In retrospect, I probably should have said that more directly. Even so, I think its fine that the duplicates stay for now (as they are arguably notable), and if there is a future discussion on whether to remove some or all them, its always open. I doubt there will be such a discussion. Otherwise, I may add more notable examples to the page later on. Historyday01 (talk) 18:54, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I consolidated some duplicates; thanks for finding the rest. Klbrain (talk) 21:08, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure. Historyday01 (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Boston bid for the 2024 Summer Olympics
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Unclose a merger discussion
Can you please unclose the merger proposal at Talk:Ramacharitam? I plan to advertise it widely, this time ;was a noob when I launched it. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:03, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the request. As the discussion was closed more than 8 months ago, and since there has been extensive editing on the Varendra rebellion page since them (almost 100 edits), I think that it would be better to start a new proposal. There's no restriction on doing that, so please do feel welcome to propose it again! Klbrain (talk) 10:23, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! TrangaBellam (talk) 15:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Minor nitpick
This was not "unopposed". Minor since the merge does look like a good cleanup. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 13:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that; you're quite right! Klbrain (talk) 13:52, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

En homme/en femme merger
I came within a hair's breadth of un-closing the discussion at Talk:En homme and undoing the changes at three articles following your merger discussion closure, but in the end, I decided not to. Partly because I !voted in favor of this change, but still, there was no particular consensus at the discussion, and lacking that, as the OP you should not have been the one to close it in favor of the position you advocated, and then performed the merger. Instead, please request closure by an uninvolved third party. In the future, please do not close your own Merger (or Rfc) requests, unless there is a overwhelmingly clear result. I won't hesitate to undo your close/merge operation, even if I strongly agree with your proposal, if you are the OP and there's no consensus at the discussion. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 10:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback, and you're quite right (in general) about someone involved in the discussion not closing the proposal. However, for merge proposals, unusually, any user, including the user who first proposed the merge, can close the discussion. I do regularly use requested close when I think that the argument is close, but it didn't seem at all contentious given the length of time the discussion had been going; WP:SNOW isn't a necessary criterion in this case. Klbrain (talk) 13:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Merge discusiion follow-up
Hi, K! Regarding this edit I think you may have mis-read step four of the merge document. If both articles are not tagged for the merge, I don't believe the merge-queue bot will pick it up and add it to the back-log. Regards, GenQuest  "scribble" 13:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * template:being merged is applied to pages where a merger discussion has been closed with consensus to merge. As the template documentation says, some mergers happen within the day, while some are put off literally for years due to lack of someone volunteering to take it on, so that template is designed for both short-term and long-term tagging. It does list them in Category:Articles currently being merged, which itself is within Category:Articles to be merged. So, the article will be listed for those of us who monitor such maintenance lists. If the question is whether both or only one of the templates should be replaced with being merged, I had believed that only one of them warranted that template (the one being merged ... but not the target), but understand that it might be best to place it on both of them. Was that your concern? Klbrain (talk) 16:33, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Addendum ... maybe I'll move to using template:merging and template:merging from, which seem to describe what's happening more clearly and do add to that backlog list. Klbrain (talk) 09:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That is quite acceptable. Thanks,  GenQuest  "scribble" 06:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Talk:SOAS University of London
That's one of the weirdest closes that I've seen. Including who proposed the merge, there are 4 experienced editors who argue for a merge and one IP with 7 edits contesting and that's "no consensus"????? (Or actually not even no consensus but a "don't merge" close). --Randykitty (talk) 12:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You're misquoting the close; I said no case made, as indeed there wasn't. It wasn't at all clear that the proposer, or any of those voting, had done the work to actually search for reliable sources covering the article in question. Even worse, the talk page didn't even mention the page in question! So, consider it a procedural close. Klbrain (talk) 12:24, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * For the record, the article in questions was SOAS Bulletin of Burma Research Klbrain (talk) 12:24, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Gonna agree with RK here. 4 merge, and an IP troll oppose. There's a clear consensus for a merge. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:54, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sure that I don't need to remind either of you about WP:VOTE; there was no policy-based argument consistent with any of the WP:MERGEREASONs. The IP troll statement is speculative, and I prefer to assume good faith. I have absolutely no objection to either of you, or any editor, starting an actual discussion in which you make a case for merging SOAS Bulletin of Burma Research, but none has emerged since the tags were place in April. Klbrain (talk) 13:10, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sure that you looked at the history of SOAS Bulletin of Burma Research, but perhaps you can have a second look. --Randykitty (talk) 13:53, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Did you have the chance to have a second look? --Randykitty (talk) 12:34, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * No; busy with other work; if you wish to, feel free to propose a (new) case in the usual way on those pages. Klbrain (talk) 13:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I see no reason to open a new case, given that the previous one was improperly closed. I have now waited long enough: You should undo the close and change your supervote into an ordinary vote. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 14:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've had a look, and find the close summary is accurate: no case made, and the presence of an objection, even in the form of a vote, suggests that the case is not obvious. I note again that STEP 1 was missed for the proposal, even to the point of failing to mention the other page (SOAS Bulletin of Burma Research)! Please note that I did not vote, and that discussions are specifically not about voting; your suggestion that I should vote is hence contrary to procedure. So, as I said, feel free to make a case, if you don't think that SOAS Bulletin of Burma Research warrants a separate page; or, as you've said yourself, be bold. Klbrain (talk) 15:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You're right, I should have written "!vote! instead of "vote". Of course it's not a vote, but there's no reason to go all bureaucratic about it. I note that the IP didn't give any reasoning either, btw. Anyway, thanks for having another look. --Randykitty (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

List of princes of Zeta
Hi, I just noticed you merged Principality of Zeta with List of princes of Zeta a little over a month ago. As you can see here three users (myself included) agreed to merge into Principality of Zeta, not vice versa. Given that this isn't bound to be controversial, do you think you can rename the article into Principality of Zeta? Thanks, Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 01:42, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that; no objections from me. It might need a technical move request, or formally reverse and merge in the other direction. Let me know if you need a hand with that; otherwise I'm very happy for you to push on. Klbrain (talk) 10:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Unintended inclusion?
In closing Talk:Sail, it appears that you have inadvertently included the separate issue Talk:Sail in the closure procedure. This is a different issue that was discussed at about the same time. This is not something I know how to fix, or even if it would be correct protocol for me to do so. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 20:01, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting that and letting me know; fixed! Klbrain (talk) 20:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

unfortunately
there seemed to be no specific followup as to whether the identificaion of:


 * Darul_Islam_(Indonesia) has existed here on english wikipedia since 2005


 * DaruI_Islam was created a week ago.

I am not that interested in resolving the issue, as the point of view in the two articles is something I do not think that I can unravel - so as you have identified - the merge is off... not sure what will happen.

happy new year and thanks for your edit. JarrahTree 09:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge of 1950 Albanian coastline ambushes
Why is marked as being unopposed? Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry; that was my error (too much reliance on autofill ...). It clearly wasn't unopposed, but there was a consensus, after some rather heated discussion (Talk:Operation Valuable). It would be nice if there was a way of correcting an edit summary! Klbrain (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining. You could perhaps fix it with a dummy edit. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 17:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion. ✅ Klbrain (talk) 18:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

List of Animals in the Bible
Hi, the merger proposal of Animals in the Bible into List of Animals in the Bible was supported by 3 editors with no opposes in the discussion on the talkpage so it should be closed as merge. Ican't do so as I voted in the discussion, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 21:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I inappropriately removed a template; I'd missed the discussion section, somehow or another. Note that you can close merge discusssion (unlike other discussions) even if you are involved, the rationale being that a move of material from one place to another does not result in information loss for readers; see WP:MERGECLOSE. However, I've done this and adjusted the templates to reflect this. If you could do the merge, that would be great; otherwise, I'll get around to it some day ... Klbrain (talk) 12:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks for that, i'll do the merge tomorrow, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 15:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Chernihiv Governorate and WP:MERGECLOSE
Hi!

While searching for diffs for something, I came across a merge proposal that you closed. This appears to have been an improper closure as there was not really the required. I see that the discussion was very stale but given the context of previous move discussions between the two participants, and that no one else had commented, a consensus clearly had not been reached on any point.

Can you explain where exactly you were coming from with that close?

Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 01:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The merge proposal was a separate from the merge proposal, and hence considered separately. The discussion was open from September 2022 and April 2023, with no objection (only a discussion about a which title should be used). So, unopposed proposal for 6 months showing demonstration of discussion and no objection seems rather clear. Klbrain (talk) 14:38, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I’m not sure what you mean exactly, but that isn’t how I would interpret it.
 * I can see why it might seem that way de novo, but I don’t think that’s what was going on. Unless I am completely misunderstanding Ymblanter, he was objecting to Mzajac’s suggestion because the imperial Russified name is objectively WP:COMMONNAME, a dispute which had already occurred about a dozen times. See here.
 * So yes, I get where you were coming from, but I still hardly think the closure was appropriate. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 08:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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ONGC Petro Additions Dahej Complex
Hello Klbrain, I undid your merge of ONGC Petro Additions Dahej Complex with the Oil and Natural Gas Corporation's page. Instead, I added an article maintenance tag to initiate a discussion about the merge. I am interested in understanding the reasoning behind this merge task. Please allow the discussion to proceed, so I can gather insights. Feel free to merge it at your convenience after the discussion has concluded. Expressing thanks beforehand. Charlie (talk) 16:49, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking with me! I performed the merge under the new page patrol protocol. This protocol doesn't require (or recommend) a discussion but can be done boldly; see WP:NPPHOUR. Klbrain (talk) 16:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Vitreoretinal degeneration moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Vitreoretinal degeneration. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Wrong talk page; not my article ... Klbrain (talk) 21:05, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Request
Since you have intervened on the Castilian invasions of England, Klbrain and Murgatroyd49, can i ask to please look into the Spanish protectorate in Cambodia as well. This also seems to be some invented original research. There are many issues with pages and maps concerning the Spanish empire, several territories that were never conquered by Spain are described as Spanish. There are users forcing the interpretation of certain territories as "Spanish" every time there is some sort of connection to Spain or Spaniards. Cambodia was never a vassal state of Spain. 2A01:E11:17:40B0:CFA:A5AF:EC8C:A26E (talk) 10:04, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello Klbrain. I see that you are a member of WikiProject Pharmacology, so perhaps you would like to have a look at a recent edit request I posted at Talk:Viatris. You need to scroll down a bit to see the issue, because when I posted the edit request, I forgot to include the 'Subject'. The request has three bullet points. The first concerns updating awards, the second is an update to the History section, but the most important is an update to the Products section. Looking forward to your input. PittGuy123ABC (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * that's fine; ✅ Klbrain (talk) 00:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Hierombalus
Can you please restore the article to mainspace? I expanded the references Temerarius used. el.ziade (talkallam) 14:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My feeling is that that draft still isn't sufficiently developed to warrant movement back to the site, which is why it is currently under review there. I don't think that its appropriate for me to sidestep the draft review process. Klbrain (talk) 15:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Please be cautious/reserved
I don't mean to be rude, but at the same time I think I have to ask you to be more reserved about your comments, particularly when the topics are not in you major area of expertise. Your comments on Woodbury's page are an example. He has one piece of work which is mammoth, so it is frequently mentioned without citation. However, only experts are likely to know this. Unfortunately your NPP comments are not really appropriate. Sorry, but this matters Ldm1954 (talk) 09:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your frank expression of views. Two points:


 * Scopus H-index of H-index of 31 for Max A. Woodbury suggests that there is not one key publication, but many. Indeed, I have been informed elsewhere that mathematics is, in general, a poor-cited field, which make this particularly impressive.
 * The author starting the (recent iteration of the) page, Jcscaptures, is new to Wikipedia, and my view is that is beholden on us to encourage new editors. So, hopefully you can see my comments in that policy-based light.
 * While I don't share your views, I'm very happy for you to make them. Klbrain (talk) 10:49, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As I said, if you knew the field you would know that his formula is a generic, so often not referenced; the h-factor is not relevant.  Please look up "Woodbury formula", you will find it taught in all more advanced matrix classes around the world. In this there are about a million hits, I have not checked them all.
 * And, for completeness, if you look at the history you will see that I removed a not-notable tag and expanded the page well beyond the newbie draft. The first draft was not good. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Phantom (unmanned aircraft system)
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Deletion of List of tissue-specific promoters
I did not list any people or company in List of tissue-specific promoters. Why did you think it's advertising or promotion? --Kelu (talk) 22:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Because the one and only reference was a company's catalogue of promoters. Klbrain (talk) 22:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I can replace that reference with other references without any company. I already spent a lot of time on this entry.  Please recover it.   --Kelu (talk) 23:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * As Wikipedia is not a catalogue, why not build Promoter (genetics) with content that describes the use of tissue-specific promoters, rather than simply to give a list of proteins (which, but their nature, all have promoters). Klbrain (talk) 07:25, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * What I listed are tissue-specific promoters that molecular biologist frequently used. --Kelu (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't have any association with InvivoGen. --Kelu (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Page move related to Promoter (genetics) and Protomer
There was no ambiguity between the pages Promoter (genetics) and what was previously titled Protomer (now Protomer (structural biology) after the move here). I can understand that these terms are easily misread, and I have added a hatnote at Protomer (structural biology). At minimum the move should have been discussed, but I hope you'll agree that the move should be reverted and the DAB page deleted. &#8213; Synpath 07:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with you at all on this point. The case for having a disambiguation page was very clear, and I was very surprised that 'promoter' led to protomer (structural biology). From my world view (which I think will be shared by many), the primary topic for promoter (that most users will be searching for) is Promoter (entertainment); next most likely is Promoter (genetics); I'd probably even think of Promoter (catalysis) before Protomer (structural biology). I note that other editors have now added corporate promoter and tour promoter. So, my view remains that a DAB page is essential to accommodate the wide range of readers who might be searching the term promoter. Given the growth of the DAB since it was created, my view is that reversal now would be impractical and unhelpful. Klbrain (talk) 08:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I would agree, but the T and M are transposed between the two terms: PRO / MO / TER versus PRO / TO / MER, respective dab pages Promoter and Protomer. The latter page has not been edited since the day of creation. &#8213; Synpath 16:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh dear; I think that I need some reading glasses ...! You're entirely correct; thank you for gentle tone! I'll work of a fix, but might need a technical request ... sigh. Klbrain (talk) 17:12, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the speedy reply and action! I was misreading the links myself when typing that up, luckily the topics don't often overlap during the course of normal study. &#8213; Synpath 17:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Alfa Romeo 690 engine
Hi, You have merged the article, claiming it was an unopposed merge proposal, but there is no notification of a merge proposal anywhere to be found and opposed. Please restore it and propose merge again so that editors can participate in discussion and voting. It is a racing engine and should not be merged into a road-car Busso V6. YBSOne (talk) 10:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The merge notice was up for 2 months; here's the version just before I merged it, with the February template in place. However, you're right that it should have a template in both places. Happy to restore and let matters take their course. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain] (talk) 11:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank You. YBSOne (talk) 12:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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Jeffrey Leiden
Hi there. Not too long ago I posted an edit request here for Jeffrey Leiden of Vertex Pharmaceuticals. Since you are a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Pharmacology, I am hoping you won't mind taking a look. I asked another editor who has been active on the page in the past, but they seem to have lost interest. I really appreciate your help. JohnDatVertex (talk) 13:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've declined the requested edit, for reasons I've outlined over there. Klbrain (talk) 20:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Kid Snow
i add Kid Snow because it finally realased on June 11 2024 and i had noticed wiki page of Billy Howle by --Sunuraju (talk) 10:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Great; thanks for creating it. Klbrain (talk) 10:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * his upcoming projects were the perfect couple and sweet dreams Sunuraju (talk) 10:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Asking for your aid
Hello, im sorry to bother you but my article Moroccan expedition (1843-45) failed to meet the requirments to become a B class due to it lacking the references needed. Now that i have added new references, i would be thankfull if you would see if it is now suitable for a B-class status (if you have the time or will ofcourse, i fully understand if you choose not to). Dencoolast33 (talk) 08:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry; classification isn't an art I know enough about to help with this. Klbrain (talk) 10:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Its okay, im just glad that you took the time to answer. Dencoolast33 (talk) 10:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)