Talk:George Catlin/Archive 1

all in the family
I just wanted to comment here in the talk page that I'm a direct/blood decendant of George Catlin (his "propor" family line). I met a woman online a couple years ago who was from the native american family line, but we never kept in touch. So yea... if you are related also that means we're relatives... feel free to contact me and say hello or what not. :) -- NatsukiGirl \talk 17:28, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Is there any documented genealogical research on this? I would think this might be a well researched topic.  Wikibofh 20:06, 13 September 2005 (UTC)


 * All I know is that I am (about the other woman I talked to from the other family, I don't know about her for certain), but apparantly this fact has been followed through my side of the family, and we own heirlooms and paintings not by he himself... but by relatives a step or two down from him with the same last name. As for an exact family tree, I've been searching for one, but can't find anything. Only thing I haven't tried is one of those sites where you can pay to build and research a tree. While he did appear, briefly mentioned, years ago in my highschool history text book, I honestly haven't seen a very large, popular interest in him. If you know of a historian who has traced the family line, let me know... but I doubt it, as I would have found it by now I should think. -- NatsukiGirl \talk 23:24, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * oh, and his relationship to me is something like greatx3 or greatx4 grandfather.

Here is the "white" Catlin family pulled up through FamilySearch.org - the free Latter-day Saint Geneology site. You could easily go to the site, input data to recreate this search and follow the family lines. I saw no data on the Amerind line, but I only ran one search. WBardwin 00:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Husband's Name: George CATLIN (AFN:PRM3-CK)  Pedigree Born: 26 Jul 1796  Place:  Greatbend,, Pa  Died:  25 Dec 1872  Place:  Jersey City, , Nj  Married:  9 May 1828  Place:  , Fairfield, Connticut Father: Putnam CATLIN (AFN:1H56-9XQ)  Family Mother: Sarah SMITH (AFN:1H56-9ZX)

Wife's Name:  Clara Bartlett GREGORY (AFN:PRM3-DQ)  Pedigree Born: 16 Jul 1807  Place:  Redding, Fairfield, Conn Died: 28 Jul 1845  Place:  Paris,, , France Married: 9 May 1828  Place: , Fairfield, Connticut Father: Benjamin GREGORY (AFN:PRHJ-NH)  Family Mother: Abigail Starr SANFORD (AFN:PRHJ-PN)

Children:

1. M  George Jr. CATLIN (AFN:1H56-BVH)  Pedigree Born: Abt 1844   Place:  Manchester,, England Died: 1849   Place:  Paris,, France

2. M  George CATLIN (AFN:PRM3-JF)  Pedigree Born: 1843   Place:  Manchester,, , Eng Died: 1847   Place:  Paris,, , France

3. F  Louise CATLIN (AFN:PRWM-JG)  Pedigree Born: 14 Aug 1841   Place:  London,, , England Died: About 1900   Place:  N Y Cty,, Ny

4. F  Elizabeth Wing CATLIN (AFN:PRM3-FW)  Pedigree Born: 22 Nov 1837   Place:  Ny Cty,, Ny   Died:  About 1900   Place:  Ny Cty?, , Ny

5. F  Clara CATLIN (AFN:PRM3-G3)  Pedigree Born: 10 Dec 1839   Place:  Jersey City,, Nj   Died:  18 Dec 1895   Place:  Lakewood, , Nj


 * Ok, I'll try that out. My family is from New Jersey, and I am not certain which line to follow, but when I find myself I'll post the line here. :) -- NatsukiGirl \talk


 * Ok, I've tried this out, but I can't seem to figure out how to go on down the line from George's sons, only Louise has children listed, and I don't recognize the Kinney and wickes names... one of the boys had to have had a family because The name Catlin came down several more generations from George... with the girls the Catlin name will have ended right off the bat. I tried starting with myself, and starting with my father, but we do not seem to be on the website... it says no matches for our names + birth year + birth location. (note: Whatever family line it is, it's probably from one of his sons, and the family stayed in the Penn and New Jersey area). -- NatsukiGirl \talk


 * I have little advice except keep trying various options, including spelling variants. Please be aware, however, that for privacy's sake the LDS site does not include living persons, which would include you and, I assume, your father.  Best wishes.  WBardwin 08:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Catlinite
Catlin definitely was not the first white man who visited pipestone quaries. . Also see Catlinite. --Windom 20:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

"Vanishing Race"
As a descendent of Native Americans, I find that they did not "ease the pillow of a dying race." It's only dying because they wanted it that way, and are still assimilating to this day quite forcefully.

Kendra \TALK! 02:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Major changes
Please explain why this article has just undergone a major rewrite to its basic text, seems to be a copyvio, I hope not. This looks like so much cut and paste, hopefully changes are in your own words...Modernist (talk) 12:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Portrait of Tenskwatawa
Hi, I see that a Portrait of Tenskwatawa – spelled at that article "Ten-sqúat-a-way" – is listed at that article as being by George Catlin, but I did not see it listed here in this article. Is there a reason for this, or just an omission? Thanks! Misty MH (talk) 21:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

File:William Fisk - George Catlin - Google Art Project.jpg to appear as POTD
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"Shut your mouth"
The article adenoid has a section about Catlin's book Breath of Life. It sounds like a more serious work than the others mentioned. "I have devoted the greater part of my life in visiting, and recording the looks of, the various native Races of North and South America; and during those researches, observing the healthy condition and physical perfection of those people, in their primitive state, as contrasted with the deplorable mortality, the numerous diseases and deformities, in civilized communities, I have been led to search for, and able, I believe, to discover, the main causes leading to such different results."
 * Kortoso (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2016 (UTC)