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Suzanne Manet


Thanks for that. Do you have a biography of Manet or any sources re their relationship? All I could find was this painting and the story behind it, which paints a pretty bleak picture. Or so to speak... Lithoderm 01:56, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have a pretty good book on Manet, - I gotta find it and I'll try to work on the article if I can. I have always wondered what set him off to cut up the Degas like that. I guess marriage, wives, and other painters can do that to you...Modernist (talk) 12:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thumbs Up Award
The seldom coveted Thumbs Up Award has to given to Modernist for his above-and-beyond-the-calling efforts in tracking down and removing the footprints of a serial spammer. Wikipedia (or at least I) salutes you. Carptrash (talk) 15:37, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, my pleasure...Modernist (talk) 16:09, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Made me laugh!
This made me laugh before you fixed it. Made me think of Joan Baez, fighting for the right and good, all that stuff. Truthkeeper (talk) 13:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, gotta say something, uh but gotta be careful - you never know :)...Modernist (talk) 13:49, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I hear you. Truthkeeper (talk) 13:52, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey man. Going through a big early 60s folk stage at the moment, . You might have a few recommendations for me. Its all Sandy Denny here at the moment. Hope all is well with you. Sorry I missed you when I did, time was against me, but there will be a next time. Ceoil (talk) 11:44, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This is where it all began:, and here and this ...Modernist (talk) 12:03, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This guy started a lot of it, the revival I mean, and his sons keep it going to this day. And he lived just up the road from me. Ceoil (talk) 12:20, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Gorgeous stuff - too bad he died, try this: for a precedent and a different spin...Modernist (talk) 12:39, 27 October 2012 (UT)
 * . I like this more than is prob healthy. Glad you like Seán Ó Riada, but he was an awful prick in realo life. gulp gulp gulp, and punch punch punch. Ceoil (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Strange Fruit is well, what can I say. That voice and reco0ding still haunts. Ceoil (talk) 13:04, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, pretty crazy - you know me and JNW were waiting, oh well, here's this:, although the new one is better...Modernist (talk) 13:07, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Seven days are not enough time to see the states. I really loved what I saw, Boston is a great city, but then I would say that being Irish and all. I was 3 hours in NYC, and although I spent half a year there in 1992, 20 years later it seemed like outer space. The three hours were spend on 53rd and 5th, and in the Met, by the way. Would have loved if you were there, but it turned out to be a last minute plan, it didnt seem right to put you under pressure at the last minute. Anyway, in the few days I got to visit Massachusetts, New Hampshire (Guns, ammo, beer!), Maine, CT, NY for about five minutes. You can guess how it was for the first visit, the focus was on her family, showing that I dont have two heads, nbut there will be a next time, prob in the new year, if the offer still stands. I obviously think very highly about ye guys, to meet ye would be, well. Ceoil (talk) 13:25, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Most definitely, hopefully we'll all be well and maybe I'll have another show up...Modernist (talk) 13:31, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's all good, no worries, she's very cool too...Modernist (talk) 13:33, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have reason now to travel over often, next time is prob april. I has hoped to gather you JNW, Riggr, TK and Liz, and have a blast, but first visit, there was too much to do. Im very fond of alL of ye, believe me, it will happen, as a warning, prob april/may n est year. Ceoil (talk) 13:43, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * From that bygone era still my favorite, look forward to it...Modernist (talk) 13:45, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

RE:"Art nude"
Now Nude (art); See my comments "What Now?" on my talk page. FigureArtist (talk) 04:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Damjing
There is NO surviving evidence that Damjing made the wall painting in Horyu-ji. See the article on him. In addition to it, the original Horyu-ji was burned around 670, and the surviving one today is reconstructed after 670. Today the painting is considered to be done between the end of 7th century to early 8th. Please DO RESEACH before editing.--Kechrite (talk) 06:30, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Sandy
Really glad to see you back in action and editing again. Jesus christ, that was a rough one. How did it go for you, I hope nothing was lost. I'll say one thing, ye guys dont do weather by half measure in the States. Best. Ceoil (talk) 08:46, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I won't be back for awhile -every now and then - lots of damage - still no power - major problems...Modernist (talk) 12:33, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Real sorry to hear M, I cant imagine. Looking forward to seeing you back, even when. Keep in touch. Ceoil (talk) 21:12, 7 November 2012 (UTC)


 * M, I just noticed this - I'm so sorry to hear! I was thinking of you on the night, worried, and hoping the damage wouldn't be too extreme. Take care. We'll still be here when things are up and running again. Truthkeeper (talk) 22:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Me as well. Dropped you an email, but obviously there's no hurry about responding. Just glad to see you in one piece. Kafka Liz (talk) 22:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

interesting talk
I think this is fairly fascinating. Bus stop (talk) 11:17, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Leonard A. Lauder on Collecting Cubism is quite interesting too. Coldcreation (talk) 11:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Both are really worth watching thanks...Modernist (talk) 12:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The Douglas Cooper collection was a fantastic accumulation of the best of Cubist work; Lauder did well by acquiring it; unfortunately Cooper was a monstrous asshole exemplifed by the self-destruction of Nicolas De Stael, and John Richardson walking out on him. Duncan and Casebere are to my mind incredibly boring in a conventional way. Sadly demonstrating the utter mediocrity of contemporary art history essentially clueless - no vision, no insight, just awful conventional crap in most cases. My take on photo realism, pop art, minimalism and conceptual art including Duchamp has become seriously negative as it eludes any sort of visionary expression but parrots market strategies exemplified by Judd and others. High abstraction goes right over these mediocre heads - I'll take Hans Hofmann, Matisse and Picasso and Pollock over all and everything mentioned by the talk at the Walker. Maybe it's time to dump Duchamp...Modernist (talk) 14:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Bobby Hebb - Sunny Bus stop (talk) 12:17, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * BOBBY HEBB & RON CARTER - SUNNY.LIVE ACOUSTIC TV PERFROMANCE 1972 Bus stop (talk) 12:35, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you...Modernist (talk) 12:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Re: Van Gogh
Responded in the talk page. (N0n3up (talk) 00:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC))
 * In regards to your message in the talk page. I understand, but this was not about whether he is Dutch or not, its the fact that the art movement he took part of is interfering on how we address his nationality as you intended, which is unrelated. For example, Picasso was a Spaniard who took part of art movements that originated in France, and like you mentioned, the majority in that certain field were French, yet the art movement that he took part of had nothing to do with his nationality, as you can see his article. And at that time, there were many artists who settled in France, specially Paris that were of different nationalities, thus going back to what I said of the artistic movement and the artist himself. (N0n3up (talk) 05:18, 8 January 2015 (UTC))
 * You're mixing apples and oranges. Picasso goes to France and is one of the inventors of Cubism along with Braque and others. Artists from all over the world converge in Paris to paint and to make art. That's not the point, the Post-Impressionist moment that Van Gogh essentially embodied was French, even though he was a Dutchman. Later in can be argued artists from all over began to emulate the innovations set down by Van Gogh, Gauguin, Seurat, Cezanne and Lautrec...Modernist (talk) 11:32, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Van Gogh even though his art embodied a French style, he made a mark of the art movement. But that's not the point. The point is that the reason you want to put of Dutch origin instead of was a Dutch painter is because of his artistic field. I saw that you changed it to was a major Post-Impressionist. A Dutch painter whose work.... Even though his artistic sphere has nothing to do with how we refer to his nationality. But since you seem to specialise in this field of art, I will leave my trust in you. (N0n3up (talk) 22:20, 8 January 2015 (UTC))
 * Keep in mind that I never added of Dutch origin in the first place, it was an editor in September 2013 who made that change. I am simply trying to clarify in the lede the best way to characterize the amazing, interesting, and mysterious character we all know as Vincent van Gogh...Modernist (talk) 22:31, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and sorry if I seemed to have enlarged the situation more than I was supposed to. (N0n3up (talk) 04:13, 9 January 2015 (UTC))
 * It seems to have worked out for the best; not a problem...Modernist (talk) 11:09, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
For remembering... Still on wikibreak!  Ty  07:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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your revert
Dear Modernist, i would find it nice, if you could explain, why you reverted my entry of the artist Ivo Ringe on the list of minimalist artists. He works in this field, so i don't know, what i did wrong? Kind regards --Gyanda (talk) 00:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * We don't add every artist who works in a minimalist style. It is an historical article, the artists mentioned are all born before 1940 with one exception Fred Sandback...Modernist (talk) 12:43, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the information. I did not know that, please excuse the inconvience i have caused. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 14:06, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem...Modernist (talk) 14:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Thomas Moran question
Hello Modernist, I hope all is well. Given your expertise in art, I hope it won't be a bother if I ask you a question. I wonder if you know any way to find the full provenance of Sunset at Sea by Thomas Moran, and in particular, whether it was publicly displayed anywhere in the US before 1923. We're hoping to put it into an unrelated FAC, but licensing issues are a holdup. If we get it accurately PD licensed, it could then go into other (perhaps more directly related) FAcs as well. Thank you for your time and trouble. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 13:58, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm confused, Moran died in 1926, 90 years ago, and his work is PD; additionally so is the 1906 painting. Using it as PD should be okay; for the provenance I would suggest that you contact the Brooklyn Museum; I'm sure they will be happy to provide the relevant information...Modernist (talk) 14:39, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There are some (theoretically) possible instances of time this could have been first published (or displayed) where the date of death of the author doesn't clear us for PD. Namely, if this was first published sometime 1923-1977 - or even later -, we would need to find out whether it was done so with or without a copyright notice. See: c:Commons:Hirtle chart. A similar case was resolved by finding the earliest date of public display that clears it for PD (see my Talk). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:05, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * , The Brooklyn Museum hopefully can provide that information regarding when the painting was exhibited. I wonder if it was included in the 1976 exhibition The Natural Paradise: Painting in America, 1800-1950 at MoMA in NYC. ...Modernist (talk) 15:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the pointer, Modernist. Cheers.  Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 05:56, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Vincent
Have started the process. He's a monster subject obv, and will take a lot of time and effort in responding and meeting comments. I see stress in my FAC future, but am totally up for it. Ceoil (talk) 22:43, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll do the best that I can...Modernist (talk) 22:49, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well you are the in-house expert, so will be needed on matters of fact. The three big areas I see re format are the refs formatting, making sure the licensing is properly tagged for each img on commons, and filling out the content on a few of the "works" sub-sections. There is bound to be a large amount of rephrasing / clarification on the bio. All doable. Am confident that the structure and comprehensiveness criteria are in order. Ceoil (talk) 23:08, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Request for comment
Met Controversies. Nobody is arguing with the substance of the additions, more the weight and (via the source) transparent POV. The editor is certainly acting in good faith, and understandably frustrated by reverts. Its a very complex subject, and we do need a short overview. I think knowledgeable people (I'm not especially, but you are) need to formulate something, brief, first on talk, to transfer to the article. Can you weigh in/ keep an eye. Ceoil (talk) 11:57, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Vincent 2
There's a bit a disagreement on v's talk page over how to proceed onva matter. Right now may not be the best time to make changes Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 12:40, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Gauguin's painting of V belongs in the aricle...Modernist (talk) 14:57, 2 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree. I was just worried that you would make a lot of edits, and it would make it difficult to go back and fix things if consensus was against the other editor's mass changes to the referencing format. But of course one or a few edits will not do so. Perhaps I came here too quickly...  Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 08:21, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I wasn't planning on any more edits until you guys were settled; thanks for your hard work there...Modernist (talk) 11:21, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * De nada. Happy to chip in. Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 11:50, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

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Met Selected objects
Is based on two (only) visits, from commons, and what you and Liz recommended; my knowledge is prob a little shallow. You might take a look. In other news VvG is taking shape. Nobody said it was going to be easy. Ceoil (talk) 09:16, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Well done! and VvG is getting there..Modernist (talk) 10:11, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok; I removed some paintings to make way for objects, but I see they all fit comfortably now. Ceoil (talk) 11:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Happy St. Patrick's Day!...Modernist (talk) 18:39, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

SVG animation: edit war
There is a discussion at Talk:SVG animation about an edit war in which you are involved. You are invited to join the discussion in order to settle the matter. Thank you. Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 14:24, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

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Nicolas de Staël
A bit trigger happy with your reverts! Superp (talk) 08:08, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The article is correct!!!!Modernist (talk) 10:44, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ. If I find better info, I will update the article. Peace. (Note for future self and others: this is about whether Николай Владимирович Шталь фон Гольштейн (Nikolai Vladimirovich Stael von Holstein) became Nocolas de Staël before becoming Nicolas de Staël) Superp (talk) 13:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The original edit came from  from Belarus. Take it up with them...Modernist (talk) 14:20, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me introduce you to the cn tag and her sister, cn-span which you removed. Your turn. Superp (talk) 15:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I prefer WP:AGF...Modernist (talk) 15:55, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent answer. We need both of course. Superp (talk) 07:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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Today's featured article/June 11, 2016
Pinging the co-noms:. Greak work. I've condensed the lead for June 11 ... the only thing that's still bugging me is the repetition of "widely" in the last two sentences, but I'm not sure what to do about that. Suggestions? - Dank (push to talk) 21:44, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there aren't many good synonyms for "widely", but maybe something like "A critical and popular success at the Paris Salon of 1833..." could replace the first one. Ewulp (talk) 02:17, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, done. - Dank (push to talk) 03:27, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Ping (unrelated to above). Ceoil (talk) 12:05, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks...Modernist (talk) 12:14, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

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Image galleries
Hi. I just wanted to call your attention to this. Bus stop (talk) 19:50, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Some good videos
Hi Modernist—I don't know if you've seen these videos on a variety of artists. I haven't seen them all. Bus stop (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bus Stop, interesting group...Modernist (talk) 21:13, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

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Misuse of rollback
Please familiarise yourself with Rollback. Users who continue to misuse rollback may have their user rights revoked. DrKay (talk) 14:09, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Clancys
I always think over looked. Some tune. Very early too, first recorded by them in 62-63? Ceoil (talk) 14:12, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * What a great version of that song, thanks. I always think about this: as the definition of we...Modernist (talk) 14:26, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, Emmylou and mark together. Knofler doest get his due, but in terms of slow hand, nobody comes close. I'm on a early 60s kick at the moment, just finished Pete Townsend's bio. Always liked that pre-Beatles mod stuff. Very pop art, maybe before the fact? Ceoil (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Just heard Harris and Knopfler doing a duet on my car radio yesterday, and happened across your conversation....hello to you both, and back into my cave I go. JNW (talk) 15:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * JNW, if you had told me in 1986 that in 2016 I'd be defending Mark Knofler, I'd have hung my head in shame. But age changes perspective, and both he and Fugazi have merits, I'll admit now. Hope the cave is coastal. Ceoil (talk) 15:19, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Just thinking - we all get old:, Hi JNW...Modernist (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice, and I suppose these days Paul McCarthy dearly wishes he was only 64 - which was way back in the day. Nothing wrong with age however. Ceoil (talk) 15:23, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * But then I think about the early 60s and my old neighbor: ...Modernist (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * And to think, I came to that song through a different route: . JNW (talk) 16:48, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

VvG
Modernist I've copied over some of the work I've been doing in the sandbox (for weeks now). it's all sourced. If you dislike it, then I don't mind having it deleted, but equally I dislike feeling like a second class citizen who has to have edits approved. I'm well aware I'm not an artist, I probably have no business at all trying to work on this article, but I've given it a shot. It's far from perfect but it's a beginning and having it sit in a sandbox and having me stew because I feel I can't edit doesn't help anything. Sorry, that I haven't come with tune in hand. Simply with text written. Maybe you'll like it. I hope you do. Victoria (tk) 16:52, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Vic you do terrific work - you just gotta believe in yourself....Modernist (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I dunno, maybe. I've been gone a long time, haven't written here in months, and writing a style section about van Gogh frankly scares the shit out of me. But I do suffer from angst, no doubt about that. Anyway, thanks for the encouragement. I'm finished now and turning over to you and the others for tweaking. Victoria (tk) 20:46, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Victoria, your work here is valued at the highest level, and imo you set an example. In less fraught terms, Fav Lou Reed song? - JNW & Modernist have claimed Pale Blue Eyes, I'm in no doubt they are both wrong - Sister Ray, in all fairness. Ceoil (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, maybe but there is this: and most of all everybody knows this: ...Modernist (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I only met her a couple of times but I vividly remember her ...Modernist (talk) 23:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The image of Warhol in that first link is incredible. Talk about charisma. I'm still in the waiting for the man/sister ray/white light white heat camp, although Lou is a deep well. Also wow, Modernist re Nico. Flabbergasted, but not entirely surprised. Ceoil (talk) 23:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The 60s...where did they go; and what now...Modernist (talk) 23:23, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * God knows, time just ....disappears. I'll go out on a limb and say that I think Jim Morrison is in the same league. Man do I love the Doors, Manzarek's flaky LA bullshit and that horrible movie aside. Ceoil (talk) 23:52, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The Doors were at their peak in the summer of '67, and Janis too; a brilliant artist; I also miss Edie she was a friend of mine's girlfriend in 65-66...Modernist (talk) 00:13, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep. tune, also iconography, althouh I am more of a 1970s bearded Jim man myself. LA Woman!Ceoil (talk) 00:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Bells

 * Also, some voice. Am floored. Ceoil (talk) 19:52, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Great job on a great song....Thank you...I'm surprised and greatly appreciate your words...Modernist (talk) 01:58, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The posthumous sect; if there is a specific work that re Matisse that shows influence in colour or tone etc, this is the section to display.Ceoil (talk) 00:38, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

first name basis
I saw some sources that mentioned that Vincent signed only his first name because he thought his family name would be difficult for French speakers to pronounce [plus... one other reason..? I don't recall]. Is this true, and if so, is it worth mentioning? Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 21:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can find...Modernist (talk) 02:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * also :The Glory of Van Gogh: An Anthropology of Admiration By Nathalie Heinich (Princeton). see notes to chapter 3 on p. 190, notes 37–40. Note 37 explicitly mentions pronunciation but refers to his name in a catalog not on canvass. The text in chapter 3 that is associated with note 40 seems to suggest some Martin Buber-ish I and Thou kinda thing, but I can't decide whether Vincent said this, since the footnote doesn't specify a letter though the text says V said it to Theo. There is additional bloviation ("By offering himself to posterity" and so on) on this topic on the relevant pages of chapter 3. Lingzhi &diams; (talk) 03:02, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is true. And he only signed canvases he thought were "finished", though he did sign some he gave to friends. Lingzhi, is this information you think needs to be in the article? I read about it, but made a decision not to add. If you all want it, then let me know at a place I can find. The information is at my fingertips, so no need to search. I hope to get back to editing by the end of the week, but it's a busy week so no promises. Victoria (tk) 03:14, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

, Well the last para or so of the article, "Why Everyone Loves Vinnie," mentions that he is an everyman because he signs only his first name. That jibes (roughly) with the "I and Thou" explanation suggested above, but not with the "because the French can't speak Dutch" explanation. Perhaps both explanations are true. I dunno. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 04:12, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Edits on Rousseau
You are currently being listed by Wikibot as a top editor at JJ Rousseau and there is a new article being developed which references his work and his book Emile which I thought might be of interest. The article Sabrina Sidney has not yet been proofed and copy edited by a Rousseau editor and possibly you could see if some of the Rousseau wording and assertions there might be enhanced as time allows. Cheers. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 16:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Appreciated, I'll take a look; I wish I had more time though...Modernist (talk) 17:22, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

The heat!
Are you having a heat wave too?? I'm reminded of the last time we worked on VvG, that terribly hot summer. Hasn't been as bad since then. I'm melting. 95% humidity at 7 a.m. Yuck. Victoria (tk) 12:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I just opened all the windows upstairs; got the cat back inside; here we go again it'll be in the 90s and so damp; I emptied the de-humidifier downstairs in the garage 3 times yesterday...Modernist (talk) 13:11, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm about to do the same and out for errands now before it's unbearable. Every time I check, the dehumidifier is full. Another day in the 90s, very damp. We'll probably have storms blow through in the afternoon. Sometimes that helps, but not much. Victoria (tk) 13:20, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I was watchful that my pond doesn't overflow in the deluge, last night; hopefully the rain won't be too bad in the next couple of days...Modernist (talk) 13:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thunder boomers in the distance and just started to pour here. Huge big drops. Very tropical. Good luck with your pond. Victoria (tk) 19:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * One of these days we should get together...Modernist (talk) 23:21, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed this yesterday (I was trying not to wilt!) Yes, when it's not so hot, I might try to get in that direction but family issues have been keeping me from traveling. Just went outside. Dear God. I don't remember it like this, ever. Victoria (tk) 11:45, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

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Alt text
I've been watching as you add the alt text - it's not something I've ever been any good at and thought I'd stop by to compliment you at what you're doing. I'm impressed. Interesting invitation above, btw. Victoria (tk) 23:36, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Vic; I've been so busy lately, I'll try to finish up the alt text Monday or at least most of it...Modernist (talk) 02:29, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a huge job. Normally I don't bother, and for some reason I thought it had been mostly done so kinda signed you up for it, but I think it's worth doing for these images. It seems like we all got busy during this FAC. Almost there! Victoria (tk) 23:42, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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Congrats on Vincent!
It was a long haul, but you prevailed! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 06:35, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Amazing; thanks for your help!...Modernist (talk) 10:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks John, appreciated...Modernist (talk) 16:55, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

A grand day's gonna fall

 * It is hard to believe...Modernist (talk) 23:14, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You can be proud; stewardship and dept of knowledge. Ceoil (talk) 06:16, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It would not have happened without your dedicated, and thoughtful work...Modernist (talk) 11:56, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

VvG
Nice work. Lovely to see it come to fruition at last! Kafka Liz (talk) 05:25, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It's been a long long time...Modernist (talk) 11:55, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Wow, what a nice surprise, thank you...Modernist (talk) 23:05, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

art video
Hi Modernist—I don't know if you've seen this video. Bus stop (talk) 02:47, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Bus Stop, I do know about Barbara's show; good to see some intense energy applied to painting again, although I think she left a lot of important American painters out of her show. Larry and Darby are old friends...it's too bad about Darby though.I hadn't seen the tape, thanks...Modernist (talk) 11:59, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Dylan
Somewhere on my talk page c. 2010 (when I first began to struggle with Ezra) you said that you thought Bob Dylan was the best poet in America. You're right! I was thrilled to see that he got the Nobel and immediately thought of you. Victoria (tk) 21:17, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Nobel Prize for Literature........Well Deserved...the man has been speaking for all of us for all of this time....Dylan is a great poet; along the lines of the very very best; some of his paintings and drawings are ok too...Modernist (talk) 02:43, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Robert Scull
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Concerning Template:Pablo Picasso
I have posted on the talk page a comment regarding the disputed edits. Thanks, AndrewOne (talk) 00:14, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Why did you revert when there are no citations in the article?
Just curious as to the reasoning. Thank you.Cstwct (talk) 22:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Most of those sections are ok, in most cases we don't ref every single museum collection etc...Modernist (talk) 22:47, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm just learning.

van Gogh
(pinging, , and )

Hey Modernist et. al.,

I work with the Foundation's Communications team; you might know me better from my volunteer username. We're writing up a Wikimedia Blog post and press pitch on the most-edited articles on Wikipedia during the last year. Interestingly, Vincent van Gogh popped up at #22, right alongside items you could have actually expected, like The Life of Pablo and United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016. I have a predilection for highlighting featured articles and their authors whenever I can, so I'd love to include one or two quotes from one or all of you. Can you tell me what interested you about/drew you into writing about van Gogh?

Please note that this is a pretty urgent request—we'd like to finalize the pitch as soon as possible over the next eighteen hours. (I'll be able to use any responses regardless of time, as they can go in the blog post scheduled for next week, but the pitch has a much sooner deadline.) I apologize for reaching out so late; we only started working on this in a significant way when we got the data yesterday (UTC).

On a separate note, I'd also love to try to return to this at a later time (read: not ~one week before the holiday season) to run a separate post that focuses on the van Gogh collaboration! Thanks for your time, everyone. Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 07:23, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi I like to bring vital articles to FA to provide a stable version. The energy required is enormous, i.,e lots of research, reading, writing, a long FAC, but it's worthwhile and important for the project. Victoria (tk) 13:56, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Reply here: ...Modernist (talk) 14:11, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * So sorry M, still trying to deal w/ a rib injury. Feel free to delete these comments I've made; I'll copy it over. Victoria (tk) 14:36, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * please feel better soon...Modernist (talk) 14:57, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks M. I found out yesterday it's an 8 to 12 week injury, so I'll be mostly out for a while. I want to try to avoid having to tend as much as possible tonight/tomorrow, but might peek in. Have just left a longish comment re Naifeh & Smith. I'm not into the last minute requests, but even if I were, can't spend the time today synthesizing that material and getting it into the article. It's just not possible for me to do that. Victoria (tk) 18:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey Modernist,, and —I wanted to point you to our blog post that has just been published. Modernist got quoted in Venture Beat and BBC News! Thanks again for talking with me. Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 19:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, in case you were wondering why van Gogh got moved up to #20. We re-ran the query after a few days of 2015 accidentally crept into the data (it turns out that grabbing the data for the past year, aka 365 days, on December 12th will grab some of 2015 as well!). Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Woo hoo Modernist! Very cool and congrats! Thanks for having me along for the ride. Victoria (tk) 20:53, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks Victoria, Ceoil, John and Ed...Modernist (talk) 22:47, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for what you did to make the article Vincent van Gogh what it is! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Holidays

 * Thank you my friend!...Modernist (talk) 13:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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Best wishes for the holidays...

 * Thank you Johnbod, All the Best! Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah; Happy New Year!...Modernist (talk) 13:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Merry
Thank you! Happy holidays; Merry Christmas! Happy Chanukah! Happy New Year! and all the best in'17...Modernist (talk) 22:55, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

List of artists
Thank you! Happy Holidays to you too! Quick question, I recently edited "List of African-American Artists" and it turns out that if the artist is notable, then I have to make an article first. Can I add the person to the Wikipedia page then list an article on artist as a reference or do I have to create an article in Wikipedia for the person? This is totally new for me. Thank you....HollywoodJazz (talk) 01:37, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * If the person is notable add the name with a reliable reference to that article. You need to learn and to practice editing and creating legitimate references. I will add something to your talk page that you can study...Modernist (talk) 01:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays, Modernist
Happy Holidays, Modernist! I don't know if you've seen this video, Modernist. I think Sopheap Pich is a pretty good artist. Bus stop (talk) 03:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you Bus Stop, Happy Holidays! Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah; Happy New Year and All the Best in '17!...Modernist (talk) 11:27, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's greetings

 * Thanks CC All the best to you!...Modernist (talk) 23:54, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Happy Holidays and all the best!...Modernist (talk) 14:05, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Best Wishes
 Modernist,

'''I wish you the best this holiday season.

May the new year bring you nearer to your dreams.

BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:40, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Happy Holidays to you...Modernist (talk) 23:52, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's greetings
Hi Modernist, thanks for the card, and all the best to you for the New Year. SarahSV (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Hogmanay!
Happy New Year to you too John! All the best in 2017...Modernist (talk) 23:08, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

New Year's Eve
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Cheers
Thank you Marnette greatly appreciated...Modernist (talk) 22:27, 17 December 2019 (UTC)


 * You are most welcome :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

 * Johnbod thank you so much...Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to you as well...Modernist (talk) 02:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings and thank you Bzuk much appreciated....Modernist (talk) 01:34, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Tis the Season
Thank you Ewulp...Happy Holidays to you and to your family as well...Modernist (talk) 12:09, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings, Modernist
Season's Greetings, Modernist, and I hope the upcoming year is a good one for you. Bus stop (talk) 17:29, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you Bus stop; Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings to you as well...Modernist (talk) 01:32, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Best holidays ever...
...until next year! Merry everything and then some! Thanks, and give those unemployed elves, laid off by Santa just after the last of their work was complete, a cookie or two (they only eat cookies, gives them the strength of ten). Merry Christmas and the happiest of this holiday week. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen
 Martinevans123 (Santa's Oven-Ready Brexit Centre) ... sends you ... ... warmest seasonal wishes for ...Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Hoping that Christmas may bless you with peace, love and a Cuban groove... and wishing that you may find a little traditional fun ...

New page on pioneering collector of modernist art
Hi Modernist. I see that you are no longer very active on Wikipedia. However, I am hoping that I might entice you to review a page I just submitted on an important collector of surrealist art who passed away last week: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rosalind_Gersten_Jacobs.Gaw54 (talk) 14:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC) I submitted it yesterday and discovered that the wait for review is up to 4 months. The subject of this entry is is timely. Is there any way to move this up the queue or expedite the review process? It is a well resourced article and shouldn't be too difficult to review. Moreover, as modernist scholar, I've worked on related pages--Man Ray, Dadaglobe--so I think the page won't require much editing. I'd very much appreciate it if you might consider taking this on. Thanks for your consideration. And Happy New Year!

100,000th edit!

 * Bluuurrrghh, ya lightweight slowcoach! I've mangled nearly 160,000. So there!! Although half were splleign errands and the other 80% were miskates'. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:51, 11 January 2020 (UTC) But, well done Modernist!!

100,000
Congratulations on hitting 100,000 edits, in spite of the ominous semi-retired notice that's been at the top of this page litterally forever. All of the great work you do around here is very much appreciated! Please accept this $100,000 bill as partial compensation. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You are a shining star. Thank you Modernist for all your guidance and skill over the last 15 odd years of contributions on the internet to the visual arts. Ceoil . (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys, I sure appreciate that $100,000.00 came in handy!...Modernist (talk) 23:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

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Akira Kurosawa
About a year ago or so I did some editing on Akira Kurosawa and you commented on my edit regarding the passing away of Kurosawa's co-author for the Seven Samurai in Tokyo in 2018. After I fixed up the images to Featured Article level, I wondered if you can read through the article again with an eye to doing a co-nomination for FAC. It would give me chance to learn the process and your experience with biography articles would be a significant plus. What do you think of a possible co-nomination? JohnWickTwo (talk) 00:11, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll look at it; when I can...Modernist (talk) 03:19, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The article looks great, but I don't feel I can co-nominate with you...Modernist (talk) 23:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I've nominated the article over the week-end with one of the mentors listed at FAC. Since you have read the article possibly you could leave a comment on the FAC review page to point other editors in the best directions for constructively editing the article when time allows. JohnWickTwo (talk) 20:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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found object

 * User:Equinox—this is the way you conduct yourself on my Talk page at Wiktionary. I try to have a rational discussion. You respond with blah blah blah blah "good quality source" blah blah blah blah lol—how is that conducive to rational discussion? Bus stop (talk) 03:26, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

100,000th edit!
Thank you so much Marnette...Modernist (talk) 12:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome M. I hope you have an enjoyable weekend. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:30, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh good grief M. I missed the fact that I had already dropped one of these off above. D'oh and facepalm. Feel free to remove ths Dept of Redundancy Dept snafu if you wish. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:32, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Two is always better than one; thank you again!...Modernist (talk) 20:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

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George Segal strikes again
George Segal (artist). Bus stop (talk) 19:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This is us...Modernist (talk) 01:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, sadly. Bus stop (talk) 02:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Stay safe, stay healthy...Modernist (talk) 02:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I wish you the same. Bus stop (talk) 03:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Trotsky in the Bronx
I rolled back your reversion of my adding Trotsky to the List of People from the Bronx. I just read about it in the New Yorker, but didn't even need to cite that, as it is documented in the main WP Trotsky article, including his Vyse Avenue street address. Cheers and stay healthy. Bellagio99 (talk) 15:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Add the reference, he lived there for 3 months.....he is not needed in that article!!!!Modernist (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The criteria for "List of People from the Bronx" is:" This is a list of people who were either born or have lived in The Bronx, a borough of New York City, New York, at some time in their lives." In practice, some like Trotsky and Edgar Allen Poe, did not live there long, but did more than pass through. I am going to add a reference documenting this in an edit. Bellagio99 (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I added the reference that you should have added...Modernist (talk) 15:26, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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Olga Albizu
Hello Modernist. In reference to your 2 recent reverts of editor 's additions to the above referenced article, I couldn't help to notice that, on the surface, you appear to be edit warring with this new user. This is also only one of numerous articles where you have reverted this editor. Please see WP:BITE, but particularly I remind you that your WP:ROLLBACK privilege can be revoked if used to edit war. It seems, from here that this is also not the first time you have been reminded to familiarize yourself with the rollback privilege. Thank you for your attention. Mercy11 (talk) 04:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your input; I was dealing with a WP:SPA adding unnecessary, incomplete, and improperly sourced and/or unsourced sections to important articles regarding artists. Thank you for your input...Modernist (talk) 11:15, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Jerry Saltz revert
Hi,

Curious as to whether this was an invite or not. WP:BUILD says to link to things that should have articles, and a semi-famous gadget that resulted in wealth and popularity for someone (albeit someone once removed from what we consider a celebrity) would seem to count. Cheers. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 22:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Initially I deleted the red link; but then put it back...in deference to your suggestion, however I think it should be deleted...Modernist (talk) 23:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

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Van Gogh photos
Good Evening Modernist, I saw you undid my edit on the article Portraits of Vincent van Gogh. I deleted the image of the young Theo because I was reworking the following section regarding "presumed photos" and I had moved the image in this section. Can I delete it again? FilBenLeafBoy (talk) 17:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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Happy

 * Thank you so much....it's been a long, long time...Modernist (talk) 11:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
 Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much CAPTAIN RAJU....greatly appreciated...its been a long long time...Modernist (talk) 01:09, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Question From a Journalist
Hi!

I'm doing a story for Gizmodo on how editors monitor pronoun changes on Wikipedia. I've noticed you've contributed to a few pages by contributing the correct pronouns for folks who transitioned later in life/were known by their dead names during their professional lives. I'd love to set up a chat if you're interested in speaking. My email is henry.giardina@gmail.com. Please feel free to reach out, and keep up the great work!

Leonardo da Vinci
Modernist, as an experienced contributor to artist articles (especially van Gogh) I thought I'd come here to get your thoughts on this. I plan to slowly work on the Leonardo da Vinci article as I feel I finally have the appropriate sources to do so. However, the closer I look into it the clearer it becomes that the article will likely need a complete overhaul, which I'm happy to do, but I thought I'd run my general ideas by you. The article uses a lot of Vasari and some particularly outdated sources (a lot of which don't even have page numbers) which will have to be mostly replaced. The main issue I see is the general layout. While I plan to go through editing the biography section already, I think that it would do best reformatted in the traditional layout for Leonardo's life. (Early life, First Florentine period, First Milanese period, Second Florentine period, Second Milanese period, Rome and France/Later years) The "Artistic and social background" and "Personal life" are particularly messy and would probably do better if merged into the biography, made into a smaller, initial "Background" section and perhaps moved into an article for Leonardo like: Beethoven and his contemporaries. The "Painting" section is particularly worrisome as it is basically an incomplete timeline of Leonardo's works and doesn't really serve much of a purpose (not to mention its filled with OR). I think that most of this information would be better if merged into the biography and replaced by a "works" and "style" section. I would bring this up on the Leonardo talk page, but after bringing up some other issues there to no responses and noticing how the page has been pretty much neglected (broken harv refs, multiple ref styles, OR, no page numbers for half the refs etc.), I figured in this case bold editing is better than waiting for a consensus on the talk page. (Although has assured me they'd keep an eye on it – who should feel free to chime in here on these ideas as well) Basically a possible layout in my mind would look something like this:

Influence
This is of course a very basic outline that is subject to change and while I know you are not as active as you once were if you get a chance please let share your thoughts. (pinging who has helped immensely with Portrait of a Musician) - Aza24 (talk) 21:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * At this point all I can advise is for you to follow your ideas; and begin to improve the biography as best as you can...His works may prove to be more difficult; however do the best that you can...I will watch it, and try to help; Coldcreation would be a good editor to help as well as Ceoil...Modernist (talk) 00:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Good to hear. I'll be offline for the next couple of days due to traveling but should have plenty of time to go further into to some of the Leonardo books I have... hopefully when I come back I'll be more sure about the approach I want to take Aza24 (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeongsanhoesangdo
Hello! I also thought LACMA de-accessioning this painting was a bit sketchy. But it seems to be true, see this. Interesting story. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:59, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Very cool, thanks...Modernist (talk) 11:33, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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Notice of noticeboard discussion
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Date of After The Bath
An article has just been created on Renoir's After The Bath which I see you have displayed on your user page. Despite reliable (and many other) sources saying it is from 1910 this seems to me to be unlikely. But that is just my hunch. Would you be interested in commenting at Talk:After The Bath? Thincat (talk) 17:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Just ask the Barnes Foundation see this: ...Modernist (talk) 20:32, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

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Emerson minor edit reversion
I'm sorry if this isn't the right way to ask questions. Wikipedia will forever be this Byzantine set of instruction and direction (as I'm not sure what I'm editing in posting this or what a Tea House is), but I was wondering why the Emerson edit got deleted?

Thehappypoet (talk) 01:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Your inclusion of Emerson's poem Bacchus is not linked live on Wikipedia, we cannot add material to pages ad infinitum...If Emerson's poem Bacchus was live linked then it can be included...Modernist (talk) 03:20, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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Help
Hello, I don't know where to start anymore ... In short, I am a Baloch by nationality, and in Wikipedia, so to speak, about the Baloch people are very bad and not full of information, I edited according to the rules of Wikipedia, but participants who follow Iranian or Persian history to me for some reason, they interfere, I even made a remark to the Historyofiran participant that he himself violated the editing rules, but the Louisaragon member clearly threatened me, although he is also an Iranian ... stories on wikipedia from the Iranian side ... can you help at least somehow or point the way ... please? Habir As (talk) 17:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You need an administrator to help you, I am not an administrator; you can locate them here Administrators' noticeboard: ask for them to help you: or try this link: Editor assistance/Requests...Modernist (talk) 21:07, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, take care of your health! Habir As (talk) 12:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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Best wishes for the holidays

 * Thank you Johnbod! All the best to you; have a great holiday!!Modernist (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Tis the Season

 * Thank you Ewulp; Here's hoping we all have a Happy and Healthy and safe Holiday season and a happy New Year...Modernist (talk) 22:48, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Greetings of the season

 * Thank you Sandy, appreciated...Modernist (talk) 14:04, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
Hi Modernist, thanks for the card, and Happy New Year to you! All the best, SarahSV (talk) 03:43, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much....greatly appreciated...Modernist (talk) 13:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message


 * Happy New Year, thanks so much...Modernist (talk) 03:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Season's Greetings, Happy Holidays
I'm taking this opportunity to wish you all the best. Bus stop (talk) 02:10, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad to see you here!! Happy 2021 and lets all keep working and stay safe!!Modernist (talk) 03:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Modernist!


Happy New Year! Modernist, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Thank you so much!! Stay safe and Happy New Year!!...Modernist (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

For an Art-filled 2021
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odd revert
Hi there, looking over recent changes on pages I follow I saw this revert on 30 December of what looks like a good-faith and appropriate edit. It's not a subject I know much about, so I thought I'd better ask why you'd reverted in case I'm missing some hidden depths. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 18:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And checking the IP's history I see they've only edited two pages, and you've reverted their edits on both (this being the other). Is it a concern about promoting an obscure author? --Andreas Philopater (talk) 19:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Those were both dead edits that led nowhere...although the dead image should have been removed as well. See also inclusions should have live links..Modernist (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah! I hadn't noticed they were in the "See also" section! Thanks! --Andreas Philopater (talk) 22:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you think it's anything that would be worth keeping in a "further reading" section? I haven't double-checked that the texts actually exist, but if there is a book on the topic from Yale University Press we should probably have it listed somewhere. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 22:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That is what should be included, if the text is available, yes...Modernist (talk) 22:09, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, Modernist. I thought of you today when I opened up the May/June issue of the The Magazine Antiques. There is an article about the 2-year renovation of the Frick, and how its major works have been moved to the vacant Marcel Breuer building of the Whitney. Interesting, especially to see the Fragonard murals in a modernist setting. Bellini's St. Francis in Ecstasy gets almost a full-page photo. My home town museum, the Philadelphia Museum of Art, opened its Frank Geary-designed new galleries yesterday. Lots of photos in the local newspaper, and praise from the critics. This is Phase 1; Phase 2 will be galleries under the Rocky Steps, and an underground gallery on the opposite side of the building. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, greatly appreciated...Everyone tells me that the Frick paintings (especially the Bellini) look great in the new space...
 * I hope to get back to the city soon, there are a lot of museum shows right now that I want to see...Modernist (talk) 00:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Geary's 3-story limestone-walled cube features a flying and curving staircase, and is getting much of the attention. But I'm most interested in the rethinking of the American collection, in which Spanish colonial, Swedish colonial and British colonial art is grouped together with indigenous works. The first images one encounters are two 1735 portraits of Leni Lenape chiefs by Gustavus Hesselius, above the wampum belt (supposedly) given to William Penn in 1682. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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De Chirico
Hallo Modernist Sorry about my revert of your revert, :-), because actually the two sources state that De Chirico was Italian. There was a long and articulate discussion about this three years ago, and the consensus was to use the expression "Italian born in Greece". Obviously, as soon as I and the other proponents lost sight of the page, someone arrived who, not caring about the sources and - above all - the discussion, decided to call him whatever he wanted. But why do we always have to start over here? After 16 years here I'm beginning to despair... :-((( Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 12:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Firstly, thousands upon thousands, possibly even into the millions, of art galleries throughout history have carried the names of their owners, but that does not mean that biographical articles about people should be categorized as if the owner was a gallery. The relationship between an article and its categories must always be reducible to "[Topic] is a [category]": not "[topic] is a person who owned a [category]", not "[topic] is somehow related to [category]". The Leo Castelli Gallery is an art gallery; Leo Castelli the person is not.

Secondly, you have not provided a reason why Leo Castelli is somehow unique in being the only art gallery owner in history who somehow needs to be directly categorized as an art gallery, when thousands of other equivalent people aren't being categorized that way.

The appropriate solution is not to categorize Leo Castelli himself as an art gallery, it's to categorize the redirect that already exists from the actual name of his art gallery as an art gallery. Accordingly, I have added the category to the Leo Castelli Gallery redirect — but it does not belong on the biographical article about the person, because the person is not literally a walking, talking, breathing art gallery. Please also read WP:INCOMPATIBLE, which clarifies that "name of page is not directly compatible with the category" is a legitimate reason to place a category on a redirect instead of the target article. We have to consider "does this title literally make visual sense in the context of browsing the category itself?" — so the answer in a situation like this is not to categorize the person as a gallery, it's to either create a separate article about the gallery and categorize that as a gallery, or to place the category on a redirect from the actual proper name of the gallery, so that a person browsing the category sees a title that has the word Gallery in it. Bearcat (talk) 14:23, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah there are millions of art galleries throughout history.....but there was only one Leo Castelli....well...maybe Sidney Janis and Betty Parsons too...Modernist (talk) 00:52, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hey Modernist,

Reverting my changes to Philip Johnson: a) reintroduced material about his involvement with MoMA that isn't stated by the attached sources; b) removed a source and replaced it with a time-delimited "as of 2020"; c) reintroduced the anachronistic "inducted" in the context of military draft. You summarized the revert with "better before". How come? François Robere (talk) 20:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If you read the reference you will see that he was inducted; Regarding MoMA - Johnson did not run the architecture department at MoMA for decades...He ran his own architecture company and his successful business for decades...Modernist (talk) 20:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If you read the reference you will see that he was inducted Actually I have read the reference, and even quoted it in the edit summary. Any reason we should choose the obsolete of two synonyms?
 * Regarding MoMA - Johnson did not run the architecture department at MoMA for decades... So? François Robere (talk) 00:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * So the accusations are not acceptable to be included in the article WP:UCS matters. He was inducted period; done...Modernist (talk) 03:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not "done" just because you decided.
 * These sources say he was "drafted".
 * WP:UCS does not justify WP:OR nor substitute WP:NOTABILITY and WP:WEIGHT. Several sources make that criticism; our job is to summarize it, not polemicize against it. François Robere (talk) 13:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I prefer this link: . Stay off my talk page...Modernist (talk) 14:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

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Revert on British terms on Rococo
Hi Modernist, I was wondering why you a change back from British English on an article tagged with Use British English. I don't know if perhaps there is something I am not seeing. Your summary was see WP:ENGVAR, but I don't see how that explains anything. Thanks AdrianHObradors (talk) 22:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you for your inquiry, that tag was erroneous, I removed it. It didn't work with all the changes that were applied to the article after Johnbod placed it there....As of October 2018 it became pointless...Modernist (talk) 23:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I see, that explains it. Thanks Modernist! AdrianHObradors (talk) 23:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't! What???? Johnbod (talk) 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Johnbod, actually, now that I think of it, I don't see how that explains it either. If an article is tagged with British English, perhaps the way to go before removing the tag and undoing British English changes is to at least discuss it on its talk page. Per ENGVAR, there is no preference over any English, and I can see how an article about Rococo would be better on British English. USA did not go through it, Britain did.


 * IMO the article as it stands is correct. If you guys want to make changes, then go ahead or create a dialogue on the talk page. All that I did was to return the article to the place that it was before the recent changes. I removed the tag because the article has been fine for years...Modernist (talk) 11:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * By fine you presumably mean "all-American" - except it wasn't, with lines like: "Warm pastel colours[18] (whitish-yellow, cream-colored, pearl greys, very light blues)". After reverting your changes, very little needed doing to restore it to British English again (I may have missed the odd thing). Please don't flout WP:ENGVAR like this again! Johnbod (talk) 15:14, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If you want the article changed...................then change it...Modernist (talk) 16:23, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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Portrait of Count Stanislas Potocki by David
Hi Modernist! I saw your extensive contributions to WP Visual Arts, including numerous articles on paintings. Given your interest in the field, I was wondering whether you would be interested in collaborating on Portrait of Count Stanislas Potocki by Jacques-Louis David from 1781? The article has been mostly abandoned for the last two years and the work as well as its history are quite fascinating, ranging from Enlightenment politics in Eastern Europe to David's influence beyond France. I would love to bring it to GA or FA level, though due to other commitments, I am looking to team up with more editors. And feel free to recommend someone else if this is not something you would be interested in participating. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Many thanks. Ppt91 (talk) 16:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
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Why do you keep reverting my edits? You have not given me a single explanation why you are doing this. I have been told on numerous occasions that I needed to put in an edit summary, but you apparently are allowed to revert my edits with even saying anything. I will leave the Geometric abstraction template on the abstract art page, and I decided to edit the Western world template so it can link to the modernism page. But regarding the goth subculture and human evolution templates on the Romanticism and prehistoric art pages respectively, I’ve made very clear on my rationale on why they shouldn’t be on there. And I am not taking it to their talk pages when you have given clear signs that you’re not even going to respond to it. Eyeluvbraixen (talk) 19:28, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep doing what you're doing regarding 'geometric abstraction' and 'western world' in other words - edit where editing will add to the page; stop your deletions. If you think you can improve a page - then edit and improve the page...Modernist (talk) 19:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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The Campbell's Soup Cans acquisition by Museum of Modern Art edit that you made here seems to contradict my sources. It is possible that Lillie P. Bliss donated money to be used for acquisitions. However, you need to source that if you want to add it. This edit is pure WP:OR. So that this does not get lost, I am going to mention it on the article talk in case someone else can help out in this regard.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't remember, frankly that was 13 years ago.......Modernist (talk) 14:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Any chance you have time to get involved in this FAC. This seems to be a very important work based on its WP:VA4 status.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Steven Tananbaum
Hi Modernist, I've been working on updates for art collector and hedge fund manager Steven Tananbaum. I noticed you are a member of WikiProject Visual Arts and WikiProject Arts, and thought you may be interested in reviewing my suggestions on the article talk page. I appreciate your assistance and would be happy to discuss any of the points. Thank you, Alexandra at L Strategies (talk) 14:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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