Talk:Ghana/Archive 1

Website
Demo "visit www.ghanaweb.com for more information about the history of Ghana": basically an ad; inappropriate in an article, especially at the beginning. I've removed it.--Bjeversole 09:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

How do the people feabout thhe side note about Sudanese independence in the discussion of Ghanaian independence? I'm inclined to suggest that we could tighten the whole thing up by pointing out that Ghana was the first sub-Saharan African nation to gain independence... Davidley, I'll see what I can do on regional pop stats, by emailing a couple of friends in the Ghanaian info ministry. Ethanz 18:29, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

The Regions of Ghana could really use some help. Does anyone know where to get reliable statistics on Ghana for each region? For example, population by region? --Davidley 14:00, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

What is Ghana like? What type of government, animals what do they eat, traditions,culture and their history, what is the leading cause of death and major diseases their. How high is their AIDs rate?
 * You might be able to click on the 'article' tab and see what the article says about it... Or you might be able to add this information to the article if it's missing and you do know about it!  &mdash; mark &#9998; 14:49, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PROBLEMS WITH LEADER
I just made a quick edit to the page. Somehow, the page states that Ghana has a governor general, prime minister, and queen. NO no and NO! There is no queen. It was also listed as a Constitutional Monarchy which it definitely is not. The president is John Kufuor and the country is a republic. My edit was not very good, so please someone with better Wikipedia skills make the appropriate changes!

71.146.29.188 06:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC) Conal Ho

Alert Article !!
I would like anyone who reads this rotten article to notify in some way the authorities of Wikipedia. This is the worst thing I have ever seen on this website. I have read a very good article on Jerry Rawlings, who is a former President of Ghana. After reading that article, I tried to read more about Ghana by clicking on the Ghana link. The only thing I saw was a ridiculous sentence. Some retard posted some non-sense story saying he's from Ghana...etc. I urge all my fellow Wikipedia readers to call for a suppression of this shameful article. We need a real and valid article on Ghana; just like any other country's article.Shady19 21:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)Rudy-Slim


 * No reason to panic. The vandalism has been undone; the previous, good version has been restored. Lupo 22:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The article has been vandalized. Please remove the offending text ASAP. Thank you.

Sorry, but I have never edited a page before and when I tried, I couldn't find the offending text.

Currently there is a dumb sentence in the politics section calling it a Nazi country. its vandalism and I don't know how to remove it.

Demographics Errors
There was an edit recently done which fixed some problems with the demographics percentages in this article. However, the Major tribes percentages still do NOT add up to 100%. The tribe demographics statistics are: Major tribes: Akan 44%, Moshi-Dagomba 16%, Ewe 13%, Ga 8%. European and other: 0.2% Now, if you do the math, 44% + 16% + 13% + 8% + 0.2% = 81.2%

So what happened to the missing 18.8%? I'm assuming you can add this percentage to the 'European and other' section. However, there is no reference for these tribe demographics anyway, so I recommend deleting this data altogether since we can't confirm the correct numbers. Capacitor 15:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Main Cities
What are the criteria for placing cities/towns here? I am asking this because all sorts of places are popping up here. I do not want to edit unilaterally. What is the consensus on what a main city in Ghana is? Natsubee 17:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Mis-aimed edit
There was vandalism above the 'main cities' comment, and I reverted the wrong segment. My apologies. Cheers, ParvatiBai 17:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, correction appreciated. Natsubee 18:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Move?
Is there some reason this page is the 'DemocraDic Republic' instead of the 'DemocraTic Republic of Ghana' and should I do a move? Cheers, ParvatiBai 23:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I am afraid it is not at all clear what you are talking about. Please clarify yourself before attempting to move anything. This is the Ghana article talk page. Where did you find DemocraDic Republic? I cannot locate it.--Natsubee 01:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I asked, so I guess I wouldn't be attempting to move anything without consensus, would I? Assume good faith and please look at the list of pages you watch (the actual list page) and note the misspelled address of this page (the Ghana page, obviously, and not the talk page) which needs to be fixed. Cheers, ParvatiBai 15:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Actions Against Poverty?
Anyone knows if the Ghana gonverment has taken any large-scale actions to decrease the poverty in the country? 81.229.68.97 14:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Oil Reserves
I think it is worthy of note that an oil reserve of considerable size has recently been found : --Minotaur500 22:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Education figures wrong
The article gives Ghana a primary school for every 40 citizens (over 500,000 primary schools). It would be good if the figures at least on primary and junior secondary schools could be revised by someone who knows what they really should be. Alethic 13:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

"... most advanced black state in sub-Sahara Africa..?"
Most advanced state in what sense? Is Ashanti remotely comparable to the civilizations of the Sudanic belt? Did they have their own Timbuktu, cities like Ngazargamu, universities, scholars, embassies like in Kanem-Bornu, Songhai and Sokoto? If any civilizational group is to represent the epitomy of African civilization, it is the Islamic civilizations of the sudanic belt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khalil.djalal (talk • contribs) 21:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Most advanced state in the sense that they were the most powerful. yes they did have universities, a literate class, (in arabic), and libraries. And again the empire of ashanti and these states you speak of existed at different times. Different times have different regional powers

History section
Why are the less savory aspects of Nkrumah's administration glossed over? For example, his establishment of a one-party state, making himself president for life, meddling in neighboring countries' affairs, imprisoning dissidents without trial, rampant corruption, etc. Josh (talk) 21:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That section does read rather biased to me. If you have good sources, I encourage you to fix it up (and in Nkrumah's article as well, which also a few sentences short of a love-fest). Akriasas (talk) 21:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Death of US sailors in Accra, January 2008
I just deleted this section; it doesn't seem to be much, in terms of encyclopedic information and the actual act itself, while tragic, is not notable in any way I can figure. I went ahead and edited the section and then included it here in case anyone thought it should be included.

Death of US sailors in Accra, January 2008
Two U.S. Navy sailors were found dead in a luxury hotel in Accra on 1 January 2008.

They had checked in to the La Palm Royal Beach Hotel on New Year's Eve and have now been identified.

A statement released by the Navy identified them as Patrick Mack, 22, of Warren, Michigan, and Lonnie Davis Jr., 35, of Riverdale, Georgia. They died of "unknown causes while on liberty," the statement said. "The exact causes of the deaths for both sailors is currently under investigation."

Both men were assigned to the USS Fort McHenry, which was based in Tema and was on a seven-month voyage through the Gulf of Guinea in a mission designed to build maritime safety and security in Africa.

According to the Ghana Graphic the US Sailors were with two ladies. The Ghana Police Service confirmed that the sailors had sex with the women and took pictures of the act.

"Three of them went out and checked in at La Palm Beach Hotel on Dec. 31 and on the next day, the third sailor found the two dead in their rooms and duly reported this to the hotel authorities," the official said. "There’s no immediate evidence” of foul play, said Lt. Patrick Foughty, a spokesman for the 6th Fleet in Naples, Italy.

Preliminary indications point to the possibility the sailors drank a lethal amount of alcohol. An official said the Navy is awaiting toxicology test results before determining cause of death.

The bodies will be flown to Germany for toxicology tests, but the U.S. Navy does not suspect foul play.

Naturally, feel free to respond. Thanks, Isaiah (talk) 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Totally WP:UNDUE, Wikinews-material and not suitable for inclusion i an countryarticle. Besides that, picking up a streetwalker is a dangerous practice especially for a white man. Lots of Nigerian and Liberian gangs have their own businesses and girls is one of them. They may want more money than the agreed price. The police are not too fond of this trade either but a quick buck may help avoiding arrest. --Boongoman (talk) 20:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Religion stats wrong
how is it possible for the muslim population to be estimated at 30% if the Christian population and others compromise more than 82% percent? The estimate for the number of muslims in the country has been vastly inflated. An encyclopedia like wikipedia should stick to verifiable info, not propaganda. The CIA world fact book states the percentage of muslims in the country at around 16%, so im changing it back to 16%. 71.120.11.173 (talk) 22:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Protection
I'm a newbie, so if I'm ignorant about something obvious then forgive me, but maybe this article could be protected or at least semi-protected. Looking at the discussions and edit history it looks like vandalism is quite rife with this article (not sure about other articles on countries). Any ideas/suggestions 'bout that? PS: could people please sign off their comments with the four tildes thing, makes the talk page easier to read. Londonsista (talk) 21:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should be semi-protected; I will take this to RFPP. Editorofthewiki 19:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

ghana
Several major civilizations flourished in the general region of what is now Ghana. The ancient empire of Ghana (located 500 mi northwest of the contemporary state) reigned until the 13th century. The Akan peoples established the next major civilization, beginning in the 13th century, and then the Ashanti empire flourished in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Called the Gold Coast, the area was first seen by Portuguese traders in 1470. They were followed by the English (1553), the Dutch (1595), and the Swedes (1640). British rule over the Gold Coast began in 1820, but it was not until after quelling the severe resistance of the Ashanti in 1901 that it was firmly established. British Togoland, formerly a colony of Germany, was incorporated into Ghana by referendum in 1956. Created as an independent country on March 6, 1957, Ghana, as the result of a plebiscite, became a republic on July 1, 1960.

Premier Kwame Nkrumah attempted to take leadership of the Pan-African Movement, holding the All-African People's Congress in his capital, Accra, in 1958 and organizing the Union of African States with Guinea and Mali in 1961. But he oriented his country toward the Soviet Union and China and built an autocratic rule over all aspects of Ghanaian life. In Feb. 1966, while Nkrumah was visiting Beijing and Hanoi, he was deposed by a military coup led by Gen. Emmanuel K. Kotoka.

A series of military coups followed, and on June 4, 1979, Flight Lt. Jerry Rawlings overthrew Lt. Gen. Frederick Akuffo's military rule. Rawlings permitted the election of a civilian president to go ahead as scheduled the following month, and Hilla Limann, candidate of the People's National Party, took office. Rawlings's three-month rule was one of Ghana's bloodiest periods, with executions of numerous government officials and business leaders. Two years later Rawlings staged another coup, charging the civilian government with corruption. As chairman of the Provisional National Defense Council, Rawlings scrapped the constitution, instituted an austerity program, and reduced budget deficits over the next decade. He then returned the country to civilian rule and won the presidency in multiparty elections in 1992 and again in 1996. Since then, Ghana has been widely viewed as one of Africa's most stable democracies. In Jan. 2001, John Agyekum Kufuor was elected president. In 2002, he set up a National Reconciliation Commission to review human rights abuses during the country's military rule. He was reelected in Dec. 2004.

See also Encyclopedia: Ghana. U.S. State Dept. Country Notes: Ghana

by;ismail ugas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.105.238 (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Ghana's GDP ??
The CIA World Factbook 2008 puts Ghana's GDP at roughly half what it was in 2006 - e.g Ghana's 2007 per capita (est.) is '1,400$', down from '2,800$' in 2006.

What happened, and why is there no information about this, anywhere? Something "ENORMOUS" has happened, and yet nothing is written. Is a loss in GDP of this magnitude not indicative of a catastrophe?! Ghana's GDP is lower today than it was in the 1990s; and all this within the span of a year. Yet not a word (not a single word, anywhere) from anybody dealing with Ghanaian economics or affairs.

... Either the CIA world factbook is completely and utterly wrong, or something devestating has happened to Ghana.

--70.68.179.142 (talk) 11:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

copyright violation
This sentence:

"Trade with European states flourished after contact with the Portuguese in the 15th century, and the British established a crown colony, Gold Coast, in 1874.[7]"

is word-for-word identical to one in the American Heritage Dictionary's entry for Ghana. The citation appears wrong, but even if we cited it to the dictionary we shouldn't be directly copying their wording. Anyone care to take a stab at rewording it, and providing a reliable citation?

65.213.77.129 (talk) 12:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wli Waterfalls
Wli Waterfalls Wli Waterfalls cascades from a height of 60-80 meters, and is the highest falls in West Africa. The hills mark the border between Ghana and neighboring Togo. A walk through the forest of the Agumatsa wildlife sanctuary offers a chance to see a large colony of fruit bats, butterflies, birds, monkeys and baboons. To get there one has to walk through the Rain Forest on a small footpath crossing 9 smaller streams in the process. (www.bridgingdevelopment.org) The walk takes approx. 45 minutes. A tour guide will assist you and show you the various types of plants along the way, including coco beans and pineapple plants.

74.46.43.21 (talk) 03:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

BAD ARTICLE
This article about Ghana is the most crappy thing I have ever read on Ghana. I am sure it was written by some Ashanti nationalist trying to make Ghana look like an Ashanti Country. There is no evidence that the Akans have any link to the Ancient Ghana empire and for that matter any other etnic group in Ghana. To assert otherwise this is pure speculation. The only link is the adoption of the name by the first president. The Ashanti's have no history beyond the 15th century. Moreover, the writer makes no mention of inhabitants of the Northern parts, as if they do not exist. The Northern region constitutes more than a third of the country's land mass and a population of about 25% of total population.

The whole article needs to be taken off and rewritten by a more enlightened, knowledgeable and insightful person. Education: How can a country of 20 million people have 1 million schools? Maybe it should be pupils? That's 40 people per school.

(You did not sign your post). I suggest you work on this article yourself to reflect different points of view. I was quite impressed with the use of sources and so on to make the case. But in Wiki there is always room for other well sourced WP:NPOV. (Truthbody (talk) 01:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC))

Togo-Ghana border
I recently made an OMC map of Togo for the Geography of Togo article and noticed, while consulting other maps, including those already in the article, that there seems to be a disagreement over the alignment of the border between Togo and Ghana. The question is about the land inside an oxbow found at 9°38′N 0°18′E (see map).

OMC shows this as part of Togo, as do the relief map in the article and the CIA map in the main Togo article, but GoogleEarth says that it's part of Ghana, with the border cutting across the neck of that bit of territory. This is also what the satellite image shows. GoogleEarth also says that there is a village there called Butoe. Is it Ghanaian or Togolese?

Would anyone happen to know whether this represents an ongoing territorial dispute between Togo and Ghana, or perhaps a recent border change agreement? Or is it simply a mistake made by a mapmaker somewhere? I would appreciate any light that anyone could shed on this question, as I would like to adjust the OMC map accordingly. Also, if one of those political situations that I mentioned actually is the case, I think the Togo and Ghana articles should mention it. Thanks. Kelisi 19:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * See Talk:Geography of Togo, answered there. --Martin H. (talk) 15:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

University Education
There is a contradiction with Education in Ghana where the statistics for university enrollment in this article (Ghana) is off by an order of magnitude. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NotALizard (talk • contribs) 17:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Mole-Dagbon people
Article says that 15.2% of Ghana people are Mole-Dagbon. But when you open articles about these ethnic groups, it is written, that there are 160,140 Mossi in Ghana and that the population of Dagomba is 655,700. I don't know how many people lived in this country when census was made (2000), but if we take current population (23,000,000), 160,140 Mossi and 655,700 Dagomba would make only 3,5% of Ghana's population. Something is wrong. --Tiredtime (talk) 11:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Agriculture GDP and Workforce
Both here and on Economy of Ghana, the info on agriculture seems off. It says agriculture accounts for 50% of the GDP and 85% of the workforce, while the CIA factbook, which is the citation, says it is 35% of the GDP and 55% of the workforce. I'm guessing the info is just out of date, but if so, it's quite a difference! Any ideas? Grayfell (talk) 19:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that is a typo in the article. Agriculture makes up 55% of the workforce. I can't get past the semi-protected status at the moment, so could someone please edit this?Cosmonautno7 (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Linear history please
This is the order of dates in history:


 * 1) The modern Republic of Ghana is named after the medieval West African Ghana Empire, which ruled territory in the area of modern Mauritania, Mali and Senegal c. 790-1076.
 * 2) Historically, modern Ghanaian territory was the core of the Empire of Ashanti, which was one of the most advanced states in sub-Saharan Africa in the 18-19th centuries,
 * 3) In 1481, King John II of Portugal commissioned
 * 4) By 1598, the Dutch had joined them, and built forts at Komenda and Kormantsi. In 1637, they captured Elmina Castle from the Portuguese and Axim in 1642 (Fort St Anthony). [...] 19th century, the Dutch and the British were the only traders left,[citation needed] and after the Dutch withdrew in 1874, Britain made the Gold Coast a protectorate. Following conquest by the British in 1896, until independence in March 1957, the territory of modern Ghana was organized as the Gold Coast, under British colonial rule.
 * 5) For most of central sub-Saharan Africa, agricultural expansion marked the period before 500.
 * 6) The first contact between the Ghanaian peoples, the Fantes on the coastal area, and Europeans occurred in 1482.[...] nation-state in 1482. During the next few centuries parts of the area were controlled by British, Portuguese, and Scandinavian [...] 1806 Ashanti-Fante War, as well as an ongoing struggle by the Empire of Ashanti against the British. Moves toward regional de-colonization began in 1946, and the area's first constitution was promulgated in 1951.
 * 7) Formed from the merger of the British colony [...]1957
 * 8) The leader of Ghana, Kwame Nkrumah, was overthrown by a military coup in 1966. [...] power of Flight Lieutenant Jerry Rawlings in 1981. [...]was promulgated in 1992, and Rawlings was elected as president in the free and fair elections of that year and again won the elections 1996 to serve his second term. The constitution prohibited him from running for a third term. 2007 marked Ghana's Golden Jubilee, celebrating fifty years of independence since 6 March 1957. In 2009 John Atta Mills took office as president...

How is anyone supposed to be able to read this? Would someone versed in Ghanan history please rewrite this in chronological order?--Loodog (talk) 16:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

The end of the history section implies a direct causal relationship between the implementation of SAPs and the recovery of the economy and stability of the political system. VERY SUBJECTIVE, VERY NEOLIBERAL. Someone needs to rephrase that, and offer a contrasting picture of Ghana's recent history. Please. Thank you.

Who wrote this?
Let's take a look at the introduction. I don't ever recall seeing Ghana on a south american map, it's in Africa. I'm pretty sure that Somalia is not west of Ghana, in fact I think it is on the opposite side of the continent to the east. You could go around the world traveling west and wind up in Somalia eventually. Afghanistan is north of Ghana in a way, but it's on another continent in Asia. Irag is east of Ghana, but doesn't border Ghana. It is also on another continent. I don't know to do it yet, but someone needs to change the Intro.
 * It was vandalism which stood for a few hours, but was then reverted. You can edit an article by hitting the "edit this page" top at the top of the page. For more info on how to revert vandalism, see Revert. &mdash; mark &#9998; 11:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoever wrote this made sure they said," THEY DONT KNOW WHAT KIND OF PEOLPE WAS THERE 12000 B.C." Which would have to mean BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE. Anyway, I found that to be ironic.lol! What kind of people are there now? EXACTLY! We know they didnt come to Ghana and kill the previous people and still there land! Who does that sound like? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.75.239 (talk) 04:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Red Mercury?
Why is red mercury mentioned under economy? It's a hoax: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_mercury

Can we revert to previous version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jprschaefer (talk • contribs) 16:37, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

The Flag??
What is up with the colonial flag? I'm not by any means an expert on the region, but if soccer (not to mention any children's World Atlas) is to be believed this is the modern flag. Even were I to have missed a recent coup, I doubt they'd revert to the old British flag. Khirad 00:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

The "Flag of Ghana" on the page as of 17 July 2006 at 23:38 (-7hrs UTC) is absolutely wrong! That is not the flag of Ghana! Please someone correct this. If I knew how to change graphics on Wikipedia, I would. The flag of Ghana should look like this: http://www.globosapiens.net/subapp_countries/app_data/flags/fullsize/ghana-flag.gif

71.146.29.188 06:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)Conal Ho

I was appalled when I saw the incorrect flag. So, I did change it.

Please note that the Guans were the first setlers in the country and not the Gonjas as you wrote. There is a known history which was passed on orally for generations that the Gonjas only got related to the Guans through mariage of a Gonja woman hence the raising of her family on the Husband's land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.87.79.58 (talk) 20:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Re-thinking National Development AGENDA.
It seems our efforts are always geared towards short term objectives and these are thrown overboard with change in government. What happened to Vision 2020 and 2015? Now a new government comes in and again its short time strategy to address long term needs. Lets halt, draw a de-politicized national policy without party colours.

My beef is with the Metropolitan, municipal and district levels. Why don't we integrate and ensure sustainability in our planning? This should involve the people at the grassroots. Lets get our basics right, development is about people, it must address needs and must be participatory.

We need to ensure that our policies at all levels create mechanisms, processes and procedures for building the capacity of residents and communities to participate in what governments do with their monies and how these decisions affect them.This way we ensure sustainability in an integrative way at the metro,. municipal, urban and then community level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.13.118.81 (talk) 10:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Oy, the talk page is about the article, not the subject. Go bitch somewhere that would make a difference. Yes Ghana needs a lot of help, but you won't achieve anything at all by posting your gripes here.

Correction for School Name
The school named 'the Gmeiner School' should be correctly named SOS-Hermann Gmeiner International College. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adwoabanful (talk • contribs) 15:05, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Not the first independent country
"becoming the first Sub-Saharan African nation to do so" ( become independent ). Look this isn't right. In 1957, when Ghana became independent,  well Liberia,  South Africa and Ethiopia were already independent countries in sub-saharan Africa. You can't say, the first colony to become independent either,  because South Africa and Ethiopia were previously colonies. It is certainly true that Ghana was the first of many countries which became independent in the 1957-1970 period, but I am not sure how you can word that accurately.Eregli bob (talk) 06:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The statment could be better phrased as the "first colony of the 20th century that become independent".
 * Liberia had been independent since the 19th century.
 * South Africa had been self-governing since 1910, and was for most practical purposes independent, like Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
 * Libya, which had been conquered by Italy in the 1910s, became independed "soon" after the allies defeated the Italians in WWII.
 * Ethiopia had never been colonised, except for 1936-1941 when it had been conquered by the Italians.
 * Eritrea is even more complicated.


 * What is really meant that Ghana was the first country that had been a colony for a long period in the 20th century to gain independence, and this is the neatest and simplest answer.

Tabletop (talk) 07:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, for all practical purposes South Africa was a colony until the 1990s. The Apartheid, realistically speaking, can hardly be considered an independent South African government representing the interests of non-European South Africans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.152.208.18 (talk) 23:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

hi, perhaps the conversation should be qualified as the first to gain independance from Great Britain ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.99.212 (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Nonsense! Ghana was the first Black African colony to gain independence. This is the historical fact of the end of the Scramble for Sub-Saharan Africa following the Berlin Conference of 1884. All these examples are either of places that were heavily dominated by settlers, or were never colonized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jprschaefer (talk • contribs) 16:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, the statement is wrong. In books i've read the statement has always been 'The first black independent country in Sub-sahara africa. I'm don't have much knowledge of Liberia's history but I think Ghana has a record for something. And I laughed so much when they said that apartheid wasn't independent! Hah! So the US was only independent in the 1960s when black people actually recieved rights?? Independence means not reliant on another nation, and South Africa was an INDEPENDENT nation in 1910, or just after world war 1. Bezuidenhout (talk) 19:57, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Well technically South Africa was still under some kind of British rule; it became a republic in 1961 whereas Ghana was a republic in 1960. Liberia was never colonised so it's "independence" is a murky subject. Ethiopia does not have an independence date so I think that disqualifies it from the conversation. Eritrea was under Ethiopian rule until 1993 so that would be the date of its true independence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.188.235.7 (talk) 16:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

It's the Gold Coast, Ghana. It's the first country in Black Africa to become independent, beginning the process that carried on through the 1960s. It had the stable economy; it had the honour of being first. Liberia was colonized by Americans and fell within the US sphere. Defining independence in its case provokes debate. Varlaam (talk) 02:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

GDP
Please stop editwarring over the GDP figure. If anyone has a reliable source which supersedes the one currently used in the article, let us know what that source is. If there's disagreement, discuss the problem here instead of just hammering the "revert" button. bobrayner (talk) 11:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I've had a look around some .gh news sources and found some rather politicised talk about improved estimation of GDP, but all GDP figures are estimates. There's nothing wrong with citing the old estimate until a new estimate comes along. It would be absurd to remove the most recent estimate just because a new one is expected in future - because we're always on that conveyor belt; then we could never cite GDP estimates. bobrayner (talk) 11:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Agreed but, since there has been new data the Forbes article is not relevant in the Economy Section any more. Ghana is now a middle income country thus, I have improved the section Medicineman84 (talk)

Serious Research
When is there going to be a team researching on important issues like the origin of the Bereku poeple, the Simpa people, the artifact discovered buried in the ground in the north, the truth about the Fante-Ashante language (Akan) which is so similar and has many branches like Akuapem,Agona and Bono,.Johnincoom (talk) 11:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not send out research teams of archaeologists and forensic linguists. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia; it reports on what other experts have published.
 * If experts in the field do not agree with your personal ethnic ideas, it may be time to reassess your ideas. bobrayner (talk) 12:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Misinformation
According to the introductory paragraph, "Ghana became independent in 1957", but the infobox says that it became indpependant in 1960. Perhaps someone should check this, and fix it as necessary--Kenmcfa 17:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The last paragraph of the History section states that Nkrumah was overthrown in a "CIA-backed coup." However, perusing the sources for that assertion (there are 5 listed) reveals that not one of them actually supports that assertion. They are either irrelevant or unsourced or non-original. The original documents at www.state.gov make no mention of either Ghana or Nkrumah directly, while the articles on Ghanaweb are unsourced (with 1 exception, which also makes no mention of anything like CIA backing for the coup.) Regrettably, I lack access to "Black Power." While I'm not suggesting that CIA had no role in the coup against Nkrumah, there's nothing in those sources to suggest that they did. --capnvan 14:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have rephrased that section of the article to reflect that only John Stockwell has alleged there was CIA complacency/involvement. I, too, can find no other source for CIA involvement. I've removed the Ghanaweb source from the sentence following because it is self published by a non expert (WP: SPS). If we can get someone with primary source material or even published material with more substantial claims, I'd be happy to put it back in. Nate Berkopec (talk) 12:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Ghana
On the infobox in the Ghana article,a questionmark lies were Ghana's Coat of arms is meant to be because the Coat of arms of Ghana has been missing on Wikipedia for a long time now.Can someone upload the coat of arms of Ghana from a reliable source to Wikipedia or Wikicommons without violating copyright rules? I would have done it but getting the coat of arms of Ghana were i am living seems an impossible task. Thanks,  Earlymen  message me!  01:49, 05 April 2011 (UTC)

STOP editing economic indicators
The ones currently there are from the IMF.

Here is the source he sited... Seems more legit and recent than what Earlymen insists on posting

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2011/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2009&ey=2016&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=71&pr1.y=9&c=652&s=NGDPD%2CNGDPDPC%2CPPPGDP%2CPPPPC&grp=0&a=

Site is cool and you can go through and use it to look up every country in the world. Delivernews (talk) 11:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I really must appologise for failing to see the figures provided by IMF.I was helping,but the Imf site quoted above makes it clear and undisputable that the figures medicineman provided is accurate. Earlymen  message me!  01:37, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

No problem thanks for clarifying. I will delete the message I wrote on your page to preserve you "Good name".

Delivernews (talk) 07:45, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Cocoa!
this page says that Ghana is the second largest producer of the cocoa bean, but on the cocoa page it says Ghana is third (after Cote d'Ivoire and Indonesia) someone clear this up please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurryaany (talk • contribs) 22:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I am disturbed that the section on the history of Ghana has no mention of the slave trade, surely as big a part of the story of the European intervention into Africa as gold. ```` (sorry, my computer is producing tildes!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevkaY (talk • contribs) 19:59, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

History Section
"In 2011, John Atta Mills won the NDC congress when he ran against Nana Konadu Agyeman Rawlings for the National Democratic Congress flagbearership. He won by 2,771 votes representing 96.9% of total votes cast." Why is a national political party vote included in a national page? --Itsthefred (talk) 03:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Elmina does not mean "the mine" in Portuguese
"A mina" means the mine. "El" is not a Portuguese word, it is Spanish. "La mina" means the mine in Spanish. 128.59.162.138 (talk) 22:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

potential WSJ resource
99.109.125.85 (talk) 00:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In an African Dynamo's Expansion, the Perils of Prosperity 30.December.2011 by Drew Hinshaw, page A11 in-print.

disinformative article
I am an economist, so I won't question the rest of the article. But the economy part is full of errors and needs fixing. I am not at liberty to so myself since I am a new user. For instance first sentence is "Ghana is a Low Income Economy", whereas a simple look at http://data.worldbank.org/country/ghana shows it is in fact lower-middle income. Much of what follows is strongly ideological and supported by references not even remotely linked to the purpose : "Successive governments still succumb to unnecessary foreign aid from the United States and European nations", supported by a reference to a specific loan. I would be grateful if the corresponding info could be corrected and somehow protected.

ASILVE (talk) 13:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Reverted to Nov 28
I've reverted the article to the version of Nov. 28, before an editor started deleting peoples, languages, and religions from multiple Ghana-related articles, sometimes using false references (such as the Brazilian census to justify deleting the Ewe from Ghana, or changing sourced quotes). That also deleted the 'crime' section that basically said it's all because of foreigners. Apologies to those of you whose legitimate edits were undone. — kwami (talk) 05:14, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

And reverted again. This time I checked two more of his refs, and both failed: one, to support a demo figure of 2.6% Indian, actually has 0.01% (in a table he added that removed mention the 13% of the Ghanaian population who are Ewe—supposedly mostly Togolese who are just in Ghana "shopping"), and one, to support the number of Fulani in jail with all those illegal Nigerian immigrants, the nicely titled "Dealing with the Fulani menace", says nothing of the sort. I hesitate to use the word that comes to mind in describing such behaviour (deleting the 2nd largest ethnicity in the country as "foreigners", making the crime section mostly about foreigners, denying peoples' religion, etc.), in case I'm wrong, but it doesn't look good. — kwami (talk) 07:02, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 April 2012
In the first sentence in the section on religion, the phrase "while Islam is most populous in a parts of the north" should be "while Islam is most populous in parts of the north" (removing the article, "a"), or something like that.

Davidp314 (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Opinion and Not Encyclopedia -- Can anyone edit this?
"Successive governments still succumb to unnecessary foreign aid from the United States and European nations." How is this encyclopedic? It is pure opinion, and is not supported by any references. I am new to Wikipedia and not too sure about editing anything myself yet, especially since this is a protected page. QuenchedThirst (talk) 08:29, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I purged the article of a lot of his edits, but didn't review the economics section. 09:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Pictures Blocking Text
Some of the pictures on this page are overlapping the text, making it impossible to read portions. Unfortunately, I do not know how to fix this on my own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tingotroy (talk • contribs) 15:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

there seems be to so much bias in this page particularly on Akan tribe. I am not too sure we had anything called Akan empire in the 13th century, I honestly think this erroneous impression need to be corrected.I do not know if this is a delibrate ploy by some of my colleagues from Akan side to give themselve undue advantage here.

93.17.55.210 (talk) 23:38, 22 November 2012 (UTC)sydney

Ethiopia
Ethiopia became independent of Italian rule before 1957. In some degree, it is South of the Sahara. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasmanian123 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ethiopia is a marginal case. It's generally portrayed as a country under Italian occupation rather than a colony like Ghana. — kwami (talk) 12:50, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ethiopia was an independent state and a member of the League of Nations, not a colony. Its government was let down by the League when Mussolini invaded and no-one answered the appeal for support under the Charter's aim of collective security.MidlandLinda (talk) 15:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

First country to gain independence
Ghana was not the first country to gain independence. That would be Ethiopia. If you are talking about from colonial rule, Liberia. If the person meant European colonial rule, Lybia. If they meant European Colonial rule south of the sahara, Sudan.

The universal ignorance regarding Africa continues to amaze me. 212.219.238.113 16:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Sudan is considered part of NORTH AFRICA

Delivernews (talk) 05:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Tangential question - Isn't the first Sub-Saharan African country to gain independence South Africa?
 * LoveWaffle (talk) 01:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Corruption
The Transparency International Corruption measure has scores of 0 (lots of corruption) to 100 (no corruption), so if Ghana's CPI score has increased, that points to a decrease in corruption rather than an increase. We should check the figures mentioned in the Politics section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.79.111.148 (talk) 10:09, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Placeholder for free and useful online source material
Here's some material I'm currently investigating about Ghana. Its from the Internet Archive and out of copyright. The book is a 1910 report on Ghana's forests though it is actually quite informative about other areas such as the names of villages and towns, flora, people are mentioned as well as infrastructure, etc.

Essentially a report on flora I feel as though it may provide some period details about Ghana from the turn of the last century. There are other books about Ghana at the Internet Archive especially surveys of flora and fauna.

Gold Coast: Report on forests by H.N. Thompson (1910) at the Internet Archive

If you find any relevant historical source documents and material elsewhere feel free to add the link. As long as its not commercial Wikipedia don't mind.

Sluffs (talk) 10:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

This relates to the post here and my post below. I've found an American report from 1970 that details how American businesses and government can encourage trade between the two countries. The shocking parallels with the 1910 UK report are self-evident. Before I quote from the 1970s report here's the link:

Ghana (1970) US Bureau of International Commerce at the Internet Archive

On page 6 of the above report is this statement:

"The U.S. government also hopes to aid Ghana in learning more about its little known timber varieties with an agricultural sector study which will soon begin with AID support"

Hold on a minute what is that 1910 UK Forestry Commission Report about then? So in the 60 years between both reports the implication is that "its little known timber varieties" are a result of Ghana's lack of collective will. Maybe like the Faraway Tree in the Enid Blyton book of the same name - Ghana's trees are ethereal magical objects that one climbs to find a different land at the top - the Land of Chocolate I imagine since cocoa is the biggest export.

So when can we expect the US to decide like the English that Ghana needs administering for its own good? To quote the 1910 report (p33):

"Given sufficient time and a corresponding increase in population (which latter can be confidently expected under British rule)...'"

Oh dear. Evidently everything is being done for the purpose of helping the people in Ghana to exploit their resources. The best way to help people is not to insult their intelligence with reports that show a cultural bias based on assumptions of superior foreign knowledge about such matters against native indifference to such matters. Especially when the American author of the report has shown a singular ignorance of the previous report. It does beg the question "who's ignorance are we discussing here?"

Sluffs (talk) 11:57, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Conquered (by) or Leased (to)
I'm a bit puzzled as to why the article gives the impression that England "conquered" Ghana. In India it is commonly known that up until Clive of India that most colonial factors were decided by the Maharajahs (or Mughal rulers) who leased or gave concessions to the English allowing them to exploit the economy. In matter of fact the slightly "republican" nature of India is a direct result of the people's disgust with their rulers who lined their pockets at the expense of their independence. They even have a derogatory name for those Hindu Maharajahs - nawabs (originally a title for the Mughal rulers it is applied to any regional ruler of Indian that collaborated with the English).

After the English left I believe the general feeling in India is one of "being betrayed by one's own leaders". I would like to see a more balanced view - the leasing of land and mining concessions was the result of Ghana's own rulers some for personal gain. others for regional investment (for the betterment of the general population) and some probably worked with the English to solidify their own control or to disrupt their enemy's control. Most conflicts that the English engaged in were not based on direct conquest but exploiting the divisions in the societies they encountered.

I'm not an expert on Ghana (though I did spend a year living with a student from Ghana - very nice curries and big portions too - thanks to that young lady for the food) but as a colored man I do think its about time we told the truth about colonialism. It always starts with trade and concessions given by local powers to the new arrivals - hardly conquest when your own leaders make the decision to do such business in the first place. Though as the article states the Ashanti fought against the English and their "coastal vassals" (see article on Ashanti-English War).

The article should emphasize the originally mining leases and should name the companies and the rulers who engaged in the practice and then when the English established Crown Colony status over some areas should go on to analyze whether violent force was used or violent opposition was encountered. Otherwise we imagine that Colonialism is a system instigated by conquering foreigners when many times it roots are far more economic in reality with local rulers choosing gladly to do business with foreigners.

Sluffs (talk) 09:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Sluffs, the article was very outdated, but i have updated and corrected information in the article to the present time of 2013. Hope that helps. You can feel free to ask me questions. Boranel (talk) 10:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

numbers don't match on failed states
It appears '53rd' should be replaced by '54th' in regards to the failed-states index (if the other specified numbers are correct: 177 countries with Ghana as 124th in ranking means 53 are 'less failed' and it is, therefore, 54th least failed). So, I will fix.144.26.117.20 (talk) 04:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Oil!
I read a small notice in the paper today that they found oil in Ghana, anyone who has information/can confirm? Yes am a Ghanaian and is true we have oil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.220.160.86 (talk) 20:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Population
Please stop editwarring over the population figure. As bobrayner states in GDP above, if there's disagreement, discuss the problem here instead of just hammering the "revert" button.

My approach in supplying the exact figure is simply based in following convention: ALL the other population figures shown in the Wiki pages for nations use a specific figure, and quoting a source. Dismissing an edit as "idiotic" for supplying "way too much detail" is not helpful.

Resolve the matter here in rational, open, community discussion, please.--Graham Proud (talk) 06:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Other articles are not an accepted argument: WP is not a source for WP. That kind of spurious precision is idiotic:  assuming that it was correct at the time (which of course it wasn't), all it would take is a single birth or death for it to be wrong now.  Technically we should round off to the margin of error of the estimate, and if we were really concerned about making a professional article we would do that, but as a general guideline, anything more than 3 significant figures is likely to be too much.  — kwami (talk) 06:53, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Once again I ask for established and agreed criteria. The use of the expression "accepted argument" would seem to indicate that WP has an established policy on this matter. If that is so, please provide a reference so that the WP community can learn and grow. WP is not a source for WP in terms of content, but it is most certainly its own source in terms of format and style. The approach of citing a specific figure is based on census data on a particular date, or estimates using an algorithm. The selection of a precision bears no relationship to professionalism - that depends on the context. It is not unprofessional to say the world population is 7 billion (only 1 significant figure), but in the context of say, a discussion about the point in time that the world population moved past 7 billion, precision does become an issue. Please avoid the use of emotive and unsubstantiated claims.--Graham Proud (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I said not an accepted argument. You can't ask for what doesn't exist.
 * It would be wrong to say that the world population is 7,123,456,789. It's not possible to estimate the population that precisely.  It's similarly wrong to say the population of Ghana is 24,233,431.  We could say that the census counted that many people, but not that there were that many people in Ghana in 2010.  False statements are not a matter of "style".  — kwami (talk) 05:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I think you're both right. ;-)
 * We must follow what sources say; if you want to put in a rounded number and make up some error bars, but the source gives an exact number, that would be a Bad Thing. However, we do also have to be pragmatic; population varies over time, most ways of counting have potential inaccuracies, and we should be open on that point.
 * So, what do the sources say? An archived link is hardly ideal, so I went looking.
 * The 2010 census says 24,658,823.
 * The [UN http://data.un.org/CountryProfile.aspx?crName=Ghana] estimates 24,392,000 (in 2010).
 * Should we show both to readers? Or if we just said something like "24,658,823 (2010 census) " then readers are still being reminded that the number may be slightly out of date, and that it's a census result (which is a pretty good source but might have certain limitations). bobrayner (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Citing the census is necessary, IMO. However, rounding is not a "Bad Thing", any more than converting to British spelling would be a bad thing.  So, for example, we could have  "24.7 million (2010 census) ".  That is factually correct.  Common-sense modification of data is not OR.  — kwami (talk) 03:40, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Chinese currency and Mahindra
Is this page moderated?

Looks hi-jacked; Chinese propaganda and Mahindra company profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.189.160.63 (talk) 20:02, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

What about religion
How could there be no mention of religion in the article itself?

Stop overwrite the Religion topic please

Christianity 63% Islam 16% That's it. you people have to stop lian to your self, about muslims are 16%, that is your wishfull thinking. the muslims in ghana now would be between 35 to 40%. think about the northen region, the muslims are about 80%. ashanti region 35%. greater accra 40%. and the rest of the regions together is around 40%. you have to wakeup to the reality, and stop pretending.
 * More information of the development of Religion would improve the article Jonpatterns (talk) 11:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Gov't struggling to edit wikipedia information
According to the information here, this page needs serious clean up. Anyone willing can collaborate with me to fix thing up as soon as possible. Thanks →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 11:34, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking a look. Here are some initial thoughts:


 * Reading over this: John Dramani Mahama
 * Either the Ghanaian government workers have successfully whitewashed it or he doesn't sound anything like the lines quoted in that article.


 * Certainly the section in our article appears to be clearly one-sided:
 * Ghana


 * And he portrays himself as a corruption-fighter:
 * President Mahama acts against corruption


 * At the same time there are lots of discussions about corruption:
 * Google search for the topic


 * What are the best noticeboards to bring this to wider attention?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 13:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Jimbo, Thanks for passing by too. I will agree with you that the section in our article appears to be clearly one-sided. The article needs a complete clean up with valid references.


 * About noticeboard am not sure. But the PWMGH mailing list is heated up with discussions and what to do next make this article a better one in terms of NPoV. Thanks →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I have left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ghana, asking for input. My own feeling is that the Citifmonline news report is a significant matter and we should adopt a two-pronged approach, namely encourage constructive editing, even if it is the Ghanaian president himself but to also be alert to an increase in "vandalism" and/or heated POV editing. At a higher level, perhaps some sort of contact between WMF and the Ghanaian gov't might be appropriate, even if all we do is confirm their concerns. The last thing we need is to become the focus of negative opinion. I will keep a keen eye on this and related articles and do what I can to help. Green Giant (talk) 22:14, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Green Giant. Checking your message out. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 23:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I have looked through the recent history of this article and I think I have identified the events that have led up to this. The edit that seems to have started it all was the addition of two new sections ("Economic corruption and economic crime" and "Narcotics industry and Drug cartels") by IP:149.254.49.118 at 03:22, on 4 December 2013, with an edit summary of "expansion on economic topic". This was followed by a number of attempts by several IP's and new accounts to negate or remove those sections:
 * IP:82.23.56.185 made 8 edits between 5-17 December 2013, each time blanking these sections, with several messages left on their talkpage and a block on 13 December.
 * IP:93.189.5.196 made one edit in which they deleted the whole of the "Economic corruption and economic crime" section, and this was reverted but no warning left on their talkpage.
 * IP:41.66.243.166 made a small edit on 24 December to say "This information is not credible.". This also was reverted as a good faith edit and a message left on their talkpage.
 * New user Citizen gh made an edit on 22 December, where they removed the whole of the "Economic corruption" section, but the edit was reverted one minute later by blocked User:LIES LIES LES ONLY LIES without any edit summary and no message on User talk:Citizen gh.
 * New user Exdogbatse made six edits on 9 January, which were reverted, with several messages left on their talkpage.
 * The gist of it seems to be that someone or some people have already made an effort to remove what they believe are accusatory sections. The question is what if anything can/should be done? From what I can see, most of the Wikipedia editors response has been reasonable apart from the blocked user reverting without edit summary or explanatory message. Green Giant (talk) 23:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Well said, I think some of the reasonable edits might be from the government especially those from IPs, as indicated by the CitiFM news. So what should be done now? Thanks. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 23:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The group of Wikipedians in Ghana (Planning Wikimedia Ghana) are putting together a press release in response to the article about the government's "struggle". I believe they have also misunderstood what Wikipedia is (as a wiki). We will mention that the article now has some form of protection from unconfirmed users and also mention sourcing. An attempt to educate people on what just happened.


 * I have also contacted a journalist who works with Citi FM and it's likely we would have to speak on one of their shows, to clear the air about vandalism etc. Just so no one confuses vandalism with Wikipedia's intentions.


 * Jimmy Wales, Green Giant if you have any opinions about the press release and the possible clarification on radio in case the journalists decides to host us, I would be happy to hear.
 * Sandister Tei (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for coming in Sandister. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 22:18, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I have sent an email to the mailing list. If no one has an objection to the press release, we will send it on Monday.
 * Sandister Tei (talk) 22:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Will check on it. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 23:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * i'd love to see some reference to RS, NPOV, COI in the press release as well, as it is pretty sure noticed, and maybe a hint about what you do: contribute to wikipedia and talk about it so its less mysterious to others around you :) --ThurnerRupert (talk) 06:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I find it really hard to swallow
The claim that the territory of Ghana was uninhabited, or even "largely unsettled" before 1000 AD. The book linked in the ref tag doesn't even seem to mention anything vaguely similar to what it's being linked to. Particularly since it says in the history of Ghana article that "The 9th-century Berber historian/geographer Al Yaqubi described ancient Ghana as one of the three most organized states in the region (the others being Gao and Kanem in the central Sudan)." Also, it says that Ghana is the source of the name Guinea, which doesn't mesh with the etymology given for Guinea at wikt:guinea, but I will look at that later. — Soap — 16:59, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * If you have better references for information about the population of Ghana before 1000 AD, please be bold and correct the article. Jonpatterns (talk) 19:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Well said, I see the ref provided doesn't state anything relating to the subject matter under discussion here. But as said by Jonpatterns if you have better refs, kindly fix it. Thanks. →Enock 4 seth  (talk)

Penis size in Demographics section
Does anyone else think it is a little ridiculous that basically 1/4th of the demographics section is about penis size? Look at the country pages for Canada, Japan, France. None of them ever mention this at all, much less belabor the idea.

I think we should remove or change it, because it's unencyclopedic as is. The emphasis as is represents some kind of weird fetishistic POV and is not NPOV.
 * Agree and trimmed, but this might warrant complete removal, to keep it only in penis-related articles (as Liz has done while I was typing this). Materialscientist (talk) 02:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Materialscientist. You're always available to help and correct. :-) →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 08:25, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Clean version of Article
This article has been taken over by serveral people with an agenda.

The agendas are

1) To portray the current president as corrupt 2) To portray a false image of the demographics of the country. For example, this whole article is fraud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghanaian_people

There is no evidence that the "real" Ghanaians in Ghana are only fifteen million people and there are 10 million illegal aliens. No serious peer reviewed source will indicate this and the source given for it in this article does not say that. The person who started this is seriously trying to portray something which is false and give a false idea of the actual demographics on the ground. I would recommend that whole article be removed.

3) The story about drugs should be removed. It unnecessarily promotes a negative image. The drugs which may pass through Ghana is not even 1/1000th of the fraction that pass through the United States and Mexico. It is an irrelevant portion of the country as is and it would seem like someone is trying to portray a certain image or agenda.

4) The article about the richest Ghanaians is false political propaganda. It has been denied

Source: http://www.modernghana.com/news/511112/1/i-am-not-rich-to-be-on-forbes-liste.html

Keep in mind that the journalistic standards of many Ghanaian news outlets are very low so, anything quoted from there as a source should be taken with a grain of salt and confirmed with numerous sources. Medicineman84 (talk) 00:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Ghana article in a complete mess
It looks like every single sentence in this article serves an agenda of some sort. From the history of Ghana that is designedly skewed towards promoting Akan dominance, politicization of the politics and economy sections to paint some king of image and even the demographics are a complete laugh. However, I've noticed that some people are trying earnestly to clean it up and that's a good thing.

Masssly (talk) 10:33, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I thought this article was up for long-term protection. Every article on Wikipedia has agenda. If you think something looks skewed, fix it in accordance to laws here. If you can't by the laws, then what you are aguing for will be no better than what is here.


 * Don't get yourself blocked.

SandisterTei (talk) 18:24, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry I don't seem to follow you but lol you've suddenly became an administrator blocking people. Interesting! Masssly (talk) 20:18, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Only 67.1% of Ghanian population can write and read English.
Please fix it. http://www.statsghana.gov.gh/docfiles/2010phc/Census2010_Summary_report_of_final_results.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.38.68 (talk) 20:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the info, could you please point out or be bold and fix it provided you reliable sources to prove? →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 21:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Tourism in Ghana
Hi! It would be great if you could create this article: Tourism in Ghana!

Perhaps you can draw some inspiration from Tourism in Brazil and Tourism in Germany. :) Use proper sources! Thanks & all the best, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 22:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Noted! Thanks. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 12:12, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Wealthiest People in Ghana?
Enock do you have any idea where that list came from? I see no sources. Is it reliable? SandisterTei (talk) 10:53, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * SandisterTei, No it isn't. Let me get the user who added it and others details then. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 10:57, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This edit added the list, it was removed as in this here the previous was also reverted here by another user insisting it discussed on talk page. That's what I've been able find. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 11:56, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Apparently I didn't mention you in my comment. Go figure. You found it any way.SandisterTei (talk) 16:02, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Am back to this article once again. About the list of wealthiest people in Ghana. The ref added is not a reliable source, to me it has been added to boost traffic to that website. Am considering removing that whole table. I've said it here. After 8 days if no one says anything am removing it. Regards. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 12:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No one have replied to what I've said here. Is exactly 8 days. I want to prevent edit wars, so after removing the list refer here. Regards. →Enock 4 seth  (talk) 19:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Sanitization of slavery?
Came here to read up on the history of the Slave Coast, which Ghana was known alternately as (also Gold) due to it's primary export for many centuries being slaves. I was confused to find the only reference to slavery a footnote at the bottom of the article, one reference. Surely a nation who's entire existence to the global community for nearly a thousand years as 'the slave coast' ought to have some mention to that or at least address it's history of slavery? That's not something that can just be shoved under the rug and forgotten. Whilst now most people visiting the article would be aware that there's something missing, in twenty, thirty years will people be turning to this source material miss an important history lesson? In several other articles it's history--and former region name--is immortalized on Wikipedia, it stands to reason that the article ought to also reflect this. [image] BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 03:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

'Ghana cannot be encapsulated on google, Ghana is more than what google and Wikipedia has to say about'! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.218.223.193 (talk) 16:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Education: a bit confusing
while reading this paragraph, I kinda bugged:

" At the end of the third year of junior high, there is a mandatory "Basic Education Certificate Examination". Those continuing must complete the 4 -year senior high school program (which has been changed to three years) and take an admission exam to enter any university or tertiary programme."

what does that mean ? Is it a 4 year senior High-school or a free year senior high-school ? I've checked some of the sources, without finding my answer. Could someone fix that please?KaptainIgloo (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Images used in article
The images used in the article are deceptive.Use images that are representative of the population. When 90 percent of the images don't represent the demographics I start to think the person editing it may be running a fraudulent operation and wants people viewing wikipedia to buy into it.

Medicineman84 (talk) 01:17, 19 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The File:Ghanaian School Children, 2013.jpg and File:Ghanaians Montage.jpg along with File:Ghanéses (Ghanaians).JPG (Kofi Annan− Akan, Abedi Pele− Dagomba, Jerry Rawlings− Ewe and Scottish e.g. Multiracial) demonstrates Ghana's ever growing diverse multiethnic society and country with over 100 linguistic and ethnic groups.


 * Zantoroni (talk) 08:25, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Those 100 linguistic and ethnic groups are native Ghanaian and not foreigns immigrants; you can not distort facts for your agenda baseed edits. Most of the Chinese are there as temporary worker who work in the mining business, they are not Ghanaian nationals or citizens. If you keep up your twisting of truth and disruptive behavior you will be eventually blocked from editting. Thesunshinesate (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

and I see you people are somehow wiki opposing each other? What's the matter? Please solve it in a friendly manner. Regards. →Enock 4 seth (talk) 20:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I very much like to work together in a warm and friendly manner with so we can come to an agreement instead of Thesunshinesate opposing me and threatening me when Thesunshinesate has no authority to do so Enock4seth. I would just like to work in a warm and friendly manner together with Thesunshinesate if possible. Zantoroni (talk) 23:14, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Were did I threaten you? I told you to stop your disruputive edits or you will be blocked by Admins, were is the threat in that? you cleary think you are an authority on the subject but you don't seem to understand certain things, and I reached out to you countless of times on your talk page to work with you but you never responded so what are you talking about? my goal like every one is the present the article as acurate as possible I just saw the edits you made they are not relevant that is why they are removed. For example Do you know what a legal resident is? it is a foreigner who has been given permission to live in a certain land. native Ghanaians are not "legal residents". I know you want to help and you have helped but don't act like you know it all and don't think everyone is out to get you. I'm sure you like all of us just want fix the page so lets all do with with the right informqationThesunshinesate (talk) 18:10, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * And Thesunshinesate once again just slapped a warning on my talk page for disruptive editing, Please refrain from abusing warning or blocking templates. Improper use of block or threat language is a violation of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you are not familiar with the use of templates please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at the introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. —Sadat ( Masssly ) ❤Talk☮C☺Email☯ 14:50, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Lol are you recruiting people against me, find other hobby editor Zantoroni and I have longed solved our problems he and Enock4seth are editors who I have worked very hard with to fix the page Thesunshinesate (talk) 19:25, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

George Bush
Why is there a George Bush II image on a page about Ghana? People visiting here to see images of Ghana are confronted by the features of a previous president of a remote country. His image also resides on pages for Bahrain, Dominican Republic, Gabon, Kenya, Latvia, Mali, Nigeria and Romania. George Bush Jnr admirers, please place his image on his page only. B. Fairbairn (talk) 13:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Full protection
I've fully protected the article for 4 days due to edit warring by a number of people. You all need to hammer this out among yourselves, then when protection expires, add/subtract material according to consensus, not just personal opinion. Admin don't decide content, but if the edit warring continues, one of us can block people, which is the next step if protection doesn't work. You're all adults, work it out. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124; WER  18:32, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We assume they are all adults, of course. I wondering about maybe restoring the protection for maybe longer to prevent the unilateral, nondiscussed changes that are apparently still ongoing? John Carter (talk) 22:30, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Only one person has edited, I worry that might be perceived as picking winners and losers here. I left a message on his talk page, I would like to see if that works before I jump into protection again. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124; WER  22:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)