Talk:Give Ireland Back to the Irish

Sunday Bloody Sunday
Can someone tell me why a John Lennon song is included in an article about a Wings song? Cheers, Vera, Chuck &amp; Dave 11:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I have removed this song from the article, it should have it's own, not dropped into this one Vera, Chuck &amp; Dave 10:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Northern Irish is not valid
There is no such thing as "Northern Irish". I have corrected the article. People can associate an "Irish" or "British" identity in accordance with the Good Friday Agreement. I believe we should respect this and list people as Irish or British, depending on how they wish to be perceived. In this instance, those responsible identify as being Irish. Therefore "Northern Irish" is not a valid description, and in many cases derogatory to a person. Dlofnep (talk) —Preceding undated comment added Dlofnep

It is also possible to identify as British Irish or Irish British, ie. Irish and British.212.56.120.79 (talk) 09:05, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

You're talking bollocks. The full name of the UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"......Great Britain being the island that comprises England, Scotland and Wales. Therefore, people born in England, Scotland or Wales can be described as British, and/or English, Scottish or Welsh. And people from Northern Ireland can be described as "Northern Irish". Unless the Good Friday agreement removed the term "Northern Ireland" (which it didn't) or changed the name of the UK from "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" (which it didn't) then you're talking bollocks (which you are). Muppet.

Where recorded? Contradiction.
We have at Island Studios in the info box and at Abbey Road in the article. The latter is referenced, but by a book, so can't check. Boscaswell  talk  19:09, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * According to ultimateclassicrock.com, it was Abbey Road Studios.--Kieronoldham (talk) 21:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Clarification needed: It was banned in the UK
It is clear what "It was banned by the BBC" means but what about "it was banned in the United Kingdom" supposed to mean? Was it illegal to buy or sell it? To listen to it? Was there any legislative or administrative action taken against the song?

Or was it only "banned by the BBC" after all?

Str1977 (talk) 10:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

My response to the (apparently very enraged) edit summary: "what the hell are you doing? a) the ban is explained as a ban imposed by two radio networks and the Independent Television Authority (ie, it's self-explanatory)"

The wording you introduce makes it clear that it was not "self-explanatory" - apparently it was NOT outright banned in the UK but merely by radio stations and authorities (not just in the UK). But previously the sentence was worded in such a way that there was a vaguely worded "ban in the UK" on top of these "radio bans".

I thank you for clarifying that but you could also thank me for raising the issue to begin with. (Note, I did not see your own, intermediate, rewording.)

As for McCullough, there is nothin wrong with spelling out who that person was. Str1977 (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It wasn't an enraged response, more like incredulous at how unnecessary your changes are.


 * I think your rephrasing of the Samuel McCullough point is crap. Henry McCullough has already been discussed in the article: "In January 1972, Wings began rehearsing in London with a new fifth member, Irishman Henry McCullough, on lead guitar ..." So, the wording we had before about the incident with his brother – "Because of McCullough's involvement with the song, his brother Samuel was beaten up in an Irish pub ..." – is entirely logical and doesn't throw the reader at all. Whereas your wording, "Because of the song, the brother of Wings' guitarist, Samuel McCullough, was beaten up in an Irish pub", is clunky: there's a stop–start quality to the structure, and an element of redundancy that the original wording avoided. And it's all completely unnecessary – apart from making you feel useful or something. JG66 (talk) 11:49, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Everyone can see how calm and collected your responses are. Obviously, so not-enraged.
 * Be that as it may. None of my edits did I make for the sake of changing something but in order to make it a better read for everybody.
 * That was true for the "UK ban" situation, in which by your own edit (which I overlooked first) I see my tagging vindicated.
 * McCullough is mentioned before but in another section - it doesn't hurt to mention again who he is. He is not the most prominent Wings member imaginable. I do not object to improvements to the sentences structure though. I will attempt a rephrasing. Str1977 (talk) 19:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Kevin Rowland
Kevin Rowland applauded the song in a contemporary interview.

We should include it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:B340:60:109C:451:2FEB:B79D:75AB (talk) 21:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)