Talk:Grotrian-Steinweg

Grotrian lineage
The article is fairly confusing to a new reader regarding all the Steinway and Grotrian names. Here is the Grotrian male lineage:


 * Georg Friedrich Karl Grotrian (13 January 1803 – 11 December 1860) known as Friedrich
 * Wilhelm Grotrian (12 August 1843 – 21 February 1917)
 * Wilhelm Grotrian Jr (1868–1931) nicknamed Willi
 * Kurt Grotrian (1870–1929)
 * Erwin Grotrian (1899–1990)
 * Helmut Grotrian (1900–1977)
 * Knut Grotrian-Steinweg (b. 12 December 1935)
 * Jobst Grotrian (b. 1969)

Some Grotrian women are occasionally mentioned as shareholders, especially daughters of Erwin who are keeping a controlling interest in the company even though it is now led by someone who is not in the family. I don't know the names of the women.

I wonder if the lineage shown above should be put into the article for clarity. The Steinway lineage is just as confusing, if not more so. Binksternet (talk) 05:06, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


 * ok, so when it says "In the 1880s, Willi Grotrian studied piano", what is meant is Wilhelm Grotrian, Jr.? (I spent a long time trying to figure out that one!) MathewTownsend (talk) 23:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest you use the full name for each mention to help minimize confusion. MathewTownsend (talk) 23:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. I had settled previously upon using first names and the commonly used names such as Friedrich and "Willi", but going with full names will make it clearer though clunkier. Binksternet (talk) 23:40, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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Inclusion of the "Admirers" section
Unclear to me why an "Admirers" section is necessary—articles like Steinway & Sons and Bösendorfer don't have one, so why should this one? I could maybe understand the value for a smaller company to show that the products are quality, but even then, that's more a promotional aspect than a subject for an encyclopedia.

LogStar100 (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree entirely that such a section has absolutely no value. Besides, the majority of the section is sourced by Grotrian's very own website. This section certainly wouldn't survive a GA reassessment, so I've removed it. Lennart97 (talk) 20:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)