Talk:Haplogroup C-M217

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Judging from what I've read, within Europe, Haplogroup C3 is most frequent among the population of Pfalz (the Rhineland Palatinate) and Baden-Württemberg in southwestern Germany. It has also been detected among the Pennsylvania Dutch in North America, even among those who have no known Native American ancestry. Why should this typically Mongolian haplogroup pop up among males of southwestern Germany while being nearly undetectable among the populations of the rest of Europe?
 * Well have you heard about the rape of Berlin and rape of Germany by Soviets ? Apparently many of the soldiers who raped German women were Mongols, Siberians and Central Asians Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Karakalpak's, Uzbeks. All of them have significant different degrees of Haplogroup C3. Many of the German women said their Soviet rapist look like Asiatic people like Mongolians Vamlos (talk) 04:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Were these soldiers also time travellers? My Palatine German ancestors, who left Germany centuries before the defeat of the Nazis, have the y-haplogroup C-M217.

By a mixing?
"C3 may have formed by a mixing of them or could have arisen from an independent origin." How could a haplogroup, by its very nature as haploid DNA, form from a mixing of other haplogroups? Sure it may have existed parallel to similar clades, but all haplogroups have a single origin. Nagelfar 20:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

central asia?

 * this haplogroup = turkic invasions of middle age (eurasia and northwestern america); this origin = eastern siberia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.49.135.238 (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Nogais and Crimean Tatars C3
Genetic research http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/9/47

Table Haplogroup Y-DNA haplogroup C3 on Nogais and Crimean Tatars

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/9/47/table/T2

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Reference named "Karafet2010": From Haplogroup NO: Tatiana M. Karafet, Brian Hallmark, Murray P. Cox et al., "Major East-West Division Underlies Y Chromosome Stratification Across Indonesia," MBE Advance Access published March 5, 2010 From Haplogroup C-M130:  

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Qing dynasty Aisin Gioro Y chromosome Haplogroup C DNA found in several Ethnic Minorities of China
Aisin Gioro Y chomosome DNA was found in "Xibe, Outer Mongolians, Inner Mongolians, Ewenki, Oroqen, Manchu, and Hezhe" males and number around 1 million people. Their ancestor was Nurhaci's grandfather Giocangga, whose descendants made up the Qing dynasty nobility. But the Y chromosome was not found in the general Han Chinese population.

The Y chromosome cluster is specifically C3c, part of the General Haplogroup C-M217, which Genghis Khan's lineage is a part of, although the Manchu Aisin Gioro Y chromosome is part of a different cluster than Genghis Khan's

The reason it spread among these specific minority groups, but not among the Han Chinese population, is because the Qing Manchu nobility was concentrated specifically in the ethnically Manchu Eight Banners and not in the Mongolian and Han Eight Banners, and the specific ethnic groups which made up the Manchu Eight banners were "Manchu, Mongolian, Daur, Oroqen, Ewenki, Xibe".

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1285168/

http://www.cell.com/ajhg/pdf/S0002-9297(07)63394-1.pdf

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707633941

http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/23

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Reference named "Karmin2015": From Haplogroup C-F3393:  From Haplogroup Q-M242: Monika Karmin, Lauri Saag, Mário Vicente, et al. (2015), "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture." Genome Research 25:1–8. Published by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press; ISSN 1088-9051/15; www.genome.org. From Haplogroup O-M175: Monika Karmin, Lauri Saag, Mário Vicente, et al., "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture." Genome Research (2015) 25: 459-466. doi: 10.1101/gr.186684.114 From Haplogroup:  From Haplogroup NO: </li> </ul>

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Reference named "Peng2013":<ul> <li>From Haplogroup H (Y-DNA): </li> <li>From Haplogroup Q-M242: </li> <li>From Haplogroup C-F3393: Min-Sheng Peng, Jun-Dong He, Long Fan, Jie Liu, Adeniyi C Adeola, Shi-Fang Wu, Robert W Murphy, Yong-Gang Yao, and Ya-Ping Zhang, "Retrieving Y chromosomal haplogroup trees using GWAS data." European Journal of Human Genetics advance online publication, 27 November 2013; doi:10.1038/ejhg.2013.272.</li> </ul>

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Reference named "Zhong2010":<ul> <li>From Haplogroup C-M48: Hua Zhong, Hong Shi, Xue-Bin Qi, Chun-Jie Xiao, Li Jin, Runlin Z Ma, and Bing Su, "Global distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup C reveals the prehistoric migration routes of African exodus and early settlement in East Asia." Journal of Human Genetics (2010) 55, 428–435; doi:10.1038/jhg.2010.40; published online 7 May 2010.</li> <li>From Haplogroup Q-M242: </li> </ul>

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Reference named "Balanovska2018":<ul> <li>From Haplogroup C-M48: E. V. Balanovska, Y. V. Bogunov, E. N. Kamenshikova, O. A. Balaganskaya, A. T. Agdzhoyan, A. A. Bogunova, R. A. Skhalyakho, I. E. Alborova, M. K. Zhabagin, S. M. Koshel, D. M. Daragan, E. B. Borisova, A. A. Galakhova, O. V. Maltceva, Kh. Kh. Mustafin, N. K. Yankovsky, and O. P. Balanovsky, "Demographic and Genetic Portraits of the Ulchi Population." ISSN 1022-7954, Russian Journal of Genetics, 2018, Vol. 54, No. 10, pp. 1245–1253.</li> <li>From Ulch people: E. V. Balanovska, Y. V. Bogunov, E. N. Kamenshikova, et al. (2018), "Demographic and Genetic Portraits of the Ulchi Population." Russian Journal of Genetics, 2018, Vol. 54, No. 10, pp. 1245–1253. ISSN 1022-7954.</li> </ul>

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The innacuracies of the previou map
The map before shows only a tiny section of Afghanistan, when Hazara has 35-40% Haplogroup C who are clearly from Afghanistan from hazarajat, also the northern Afghanistan where the Tajiks lives also have significant 6-12% C3, As do the Uzbeks of Afghanistan have 41% of C3, the area of Afghanistan (including western area Pakistan ) should have high C3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3314501/ In addition Burusho from Kashmir also have 5% C3. Vamlos (talk) 14:49, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Ydna C2 dripping down Washington, Oregon and California.
Hey can any professional fill me in why Ydna C2 oozes down the US Pacific Coast? There is a Reservation legend that eerily looks similar but want to cast out biases. :) 2600:100F:B054:5FCC:3D7A:4D5:4316:2688 (talk) 00:53, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Too technical?
The extreme volume, detail, specificity, and use of technical language in this article put it, IMHO, well beyond encyclopedic style. See WP:TECHNICAL & MOS:JARGON. I could edit it down, but I might leave hardly more than a stub. Someone who knows the subject matter would be better qualfied to strike a middle ground than I. Still, I'll come back and take another look at the article eventually. Dgndenver (talk) 14:42, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Ref Error
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