Talk:Heart of God Church

Sources/Citations required
So far I found two websites who could support many citations about the information of Heart of God Church in this wiki page: (1) http://www.chc.org.sg/eng/ministry/affiliate_HOGC.php & (2) http://www.heartofgodchurch.org/. The latter website is called itself as the official Heart of God church website whereas the former website may describe the information of Heart of God church. I will see if I have time enough to check and add references later. Kimberry352 (talk) 12:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Long time never check this. Will check with the sources later. Kimberry352 (talk) 23:23, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * okay, almost doneKimberry352 (talk) 02:23, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Is Church Culture a trivia?
"Heart of God Church culture is very unique, youths will often greet 'Hello' and 'Goodbye' to their pastors upon seeing them, to the extent of going up to the office or chasing them into Changi Airport. The culture is so overwhelming that it leads to certain confusion among the youths that threatens them to leave or raise an issue about the abnormly of the church. Heart of God Church also has many links to private school, company and other businesses. Above all it has a very unique culture.[citation needed]" --> Is the quote about church culture a trivia? Moreover, how does it come out from the source? I don't see any source to support the quote. In case, it should be removed? Kimberry352 (talk) 02:27, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

user Churchwatchdog seems to be a SPA
Seems like Churchwatchdog like to remove all links of City Harvest Church (CHC) to Heart of God Church (HOGC). It is certain that HOGC is an affiliated church of CHC and originated from CHC. See http://www.chc.org.sg/_eng/ministries/affiliate_HOGC.php. User Churchwatchdog (a SPA)seems quite determined to remove all links to it. I do not want to revert his removal of sourced material to avoid 3RR. --Xaiver0510 (talk) 07:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

User Churchwatchdog's biased and unjustified changes
With reference to an older revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heart_of_God_Church&direction=prev&oldid=689018418

New revision by User:Churchwatchdog removed the sentence "It is an affiliate ministry of a group of "Harvest" churches, under the lead of City Harvest Church and consists of other member churches such as the Shekinah Harvest Church that are based in Singapore." when the fact presented is entirely true and support by materials and can be found http://www.chc.org.sg/#!affiliate-ministries/ --Yulun5566 (talk) 13:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Requesting not for an edit war so if anyone could back me up in the older revision I would gladly revert the poorly justified changes made by Churchwatchdog
 * Comment made by Churchwatchdog to justify changes:"Untrue information. Church website states it is an independent church." Would anyone clarify this statement because clearly HoGC is affiliated with City Harvest Church and this statement is ambiguous in stating whether the Church is an independent church due to its non-denominational stance or a church without affiliations?

I am not sure I agree with all of Churchwatchdog's changes, but based on the definition of an independent church that means that the church is not subsumed under the authority or the structure of City Harvest Church. In understanding of church dynamics, affiliation that is not recognised by the the party being claimed to be an affiliate could be due to several reasons including a differing understanding of the terms or possibly outdated information. But in this case it seems correct that unless affiliation is recognised by both parties then the affiliation cannot be concretely established. The City Harvest website does not clarify their definition of affiliation. But what I read from the Heart of God Church website is that it claims independence in leadership and finances. --Plim4pc (talk) 13:05, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

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