Talk:Henry Rollins/Archive 2

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Results of Good Article Reassessment
As a result of a lengthy (2 month!) discussion at WP:GAR, no consensus was ultimately reached as to this article's GA status. This article has remained on GAR so long that many of the earlier comments, whether to keep or to delist, refer to an article that is so different from what the article is today that it is impossible to determine consensus at this time. Please keep improving the article, especially in the following areas: Please note that the archiving of the Reassessment discussion (found here: ) is not an endorsement of the article as perfect; not does it prevent another reassement from happening in the future if this article is found to need fixing. Please continue to improve the article; it would be nice to see it featured some day... --Jayron32| talk | contribs 16:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Expansion (Rollins' TV and Film work is quite missing from the article; the article seems to beg more here.)
 * Referencing (any new information should be well referenced to reliable sources using appropriately formatted inline citations)

2.13.61
I'm wondering if Rollins' publishing company, 2.13.61, precedes the breakup of Black Flag (the article says he formed it afterwards). A friend purchased one of his books at a Black Flag concert (circa Feb. 1986), and I remember the book said "2.13.61" on it. However this may have been the actual title of the book, not the publisher. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Henry Rollins on Twitter is a Fake
Henry Rollins is quoted on HelloHenry.com as saying "I have never been on Twitter ever". Should the twitter link be removed or correctly described as a fake? Its present listing without clarification gives the impression that it's authentic.Deadgirlmedia (talk) 07:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Murder
I just listened to an interview he did with Howard Stern in which they talk about the murder of his roommate. he appeared on America's Most Wanted because of it. He was almost killed himself in this incident. maybe it should be investigated and added to the article. Amirman (talk) 08:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I was woundering about that too. It use to be in this artical I thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.26.236.94 (talk) 07:09, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Good write up
Good write up, incomplete though. A few examples: Henry was featured singing 'We are 138' with the Misfits on their Box Set and He has more books published than what is listed - 'Pissing in the Gene Pool' being one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.136.141.142 (talk) 01:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this vandalism?
In the Last paragraph of the Black Flag section the bolded part seemed odd to me: Black Flag's change in musical style and appearance alienated many of their original fans, who focused their displeasure on Rollins by punching him in the mouth, stabbing him with pens or scratching him with their nails, among other methods. He often fought back, dragging audience members on stage and assaulting them. Rollins became increasingly alienated from the audience; in his tour diary, Rollins wrote "When they spit at me, when they grab at me, they aren't hurting me. When I push out and mangle the flesh of another, it's falling so short of what I really want to do to them."[16] During the Unicorn legal dispute, Rollins had started a weight-lifting program, and by their 1984 tours, he had become visibly well-built; journalist Michael Azerrad later commented that "his powerful physique was a metaphor for the impregnable emotional shield he was developing around himself."[15] Rollins has since replied that "no, the training was just basically a way to push myself", suggesting that Azerrad "needed to get in touch with his inner homosexual".[17] This seems in contrast to the quote from him where he says "When they spit at me, when they grab at me, they aren't hurting me". 128.205.48.17 (talk) 02:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

In Television Appearances
It should be noted that Rollins also had an appearance on the Drew Carey show as a man who would beat you up if you paid him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.166.28 (talk) 03:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Spoken Word Discography
I deleted the album Our Fathers Who Aren't In Heaven (1990) from the Spoken word section since I couldn't find any record of this album existing (I checked allmusic and 21316 website). Perhaps it is an album by another artist which features Henry? If anyone can confirm this feel free to add it back to the Featured On section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.250.188 (talk) 23:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Alexisonfire
I think, it should be noted that there is a song by Alexisonfire named ″Charlie Sheen vs. Henry Rollins″ that appeared on The Switcheroo Series: Alexisonfire vs. Moneen. --JPGoelz (talk) 01:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Image
Can't someone find a better image? Pit stains isn't exactly flattering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.210.129.142 (talk) 17:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

The current Image is wrong, isn't it? That's not Henry Rollins... at least not the one this article is about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.52.80.31 (talk) 08:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The current image doesn't show Rollins in 2008, according to flickr it was just uploaded in 2008, he looked already quite different at that time (weight loss + aging). I also don't think he performed as a singer in 2008? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.67.194.22 (talk) 12:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Revert
My last edit was reverted by Kintetsubuffalo - can you explain why? Thrapper (talk) 09:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Joe Cole
However, in December 1991, Rollins and his best friend Joe Cole were accosted by gunmen belonging to the Venice, CA gang, the Venice Shoreline Crips, outside Rollins's home. Not supported by the cite, and puzzling why this 20 year old murder is widely attributed to one street gang. MartinSFSA (talk) 15:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

LSD?
I'm surprised that the website says this, because Rollins is infact Straight Edge, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JAStewart (talk • contribs) 18:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * straight edge barely existed in 1981
 * You may be confusing Rollins with Ian MacKaye. Rollins has never (from what I've read) been straight-edge. CloudNine (talk) 21:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Rollins hates drugs, but he's not straight-edge. He did drugs as a member of Black Flag primarily due to peer pressure. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Doesn't he drink beer?205.189.194.208 (talk) 00:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The man has said various times during his spoken word gigs that he does not drink. It's rather obvious that he used to, however. 94.0.23.60 (talk) 20:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * "It's rather obvious...", really!? Would you care to cite something or at least elaborate a little? Dooyamind (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Personal life?
How come there is no "personal life" section? Has he not announced anything about his personal life or something? Just wondering, if anything on his personal life is found, it should be added to the article. --Blaguymonkey (talk) 07:26, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Seems like a reasonable question. My impression is that HR's personal life consists 1) direct personal experience with world cultures especially related to music (of course), 2) evangelizing the need to step outside your cultural comfort zone.  I think this might be addressed in the intro paragraph(s).  For example, I noticed today that there is no mention of his current WEEKLY radio show gig at KCRW which has been going on several years (This is mentioned further down the HR page).  I think the current gig could be mentioned after the current sentence beginning "He has hosted numerous radio shows..."


 * I edited this to delete an objection to removing a fan-site link that I just learned usually not worthy of linking. Dooyamind (talk) 05:13, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * My impression of HR comes from things he has said during his radio show and one of his live shows I attended. Finding citable references may be difficult.  HR's writings for each of his KCRW shows may be a source.  Also his blog posts, but perhaps the best may be in his recorded spoken word performances.  If anyone finds good refs, please start a list. Dooyamind (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * (I edited my original comment above slightly and added the followup comment about looking for source(s) for HR's personal life.) Dooyamind (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Television Section
There is no mention of his co-hosting a British television show during the early 2000's. I used to watch this on TLC or the Discovery channel. It was about guys that would build machines that they would drive and fight with them, trying to disable the other guys machine. There is also no mention of his reptile work or his appearance on National Geo Wild's Snake Underground. Magialuna (talk) 23:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Lead
The lead currently has the following paragraph: This is largely irrelevant to a section of the article that is supposed to explain a subject's notability and the most important aspects of it. It should be moved into a "Private life" section. Toccata quarta (talk) 10:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Rollins stated in a 1998 interview with NY Rock, "I don't want a wife and I don't want kids. I'm 36 and if I met a woman of my own age and married her, I'd also be marrying her former life, her past." Rollins dated fellow KCRW-DJ Liza Richardson. Rollins has been close friends with musician Ian MacKaye since childhood.

Atheism
Oh okay. :) Is there any source for Rollins being an atheist? --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 13:45, 6 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Pretty sure there was one at one point. Prolly wiped to skirt the sexuality issue. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 14:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Boa constrictor... really?
Do we have any references backing the following statement (taken from the article)? "Rollins regularly rode to school in the back of the bus with a boa-constrictor." It sounds quite outlandish, so I am pretty sure we need an explanatory footnote here. --Oulipal (talk) 00:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

"...he does occasionally target the left wing as well."
"His posts consistently direct harsh criticism at conservative politicians and pundits, although he does occasionally target the left wing as well." One implication of this sentence is that Rollins has taken a position outside of left-wing ideology and has criticized the left from that vantage point. I don't know all of Rollins' criticism; is there an instance that would aptly represent that? Or does the above statement simply mean to suggest that Rollins has been critical of the Democratic Party and Democratic politicians? In that case, I would suggest maybe rephrasing the latter part to perhaps "the liberal political establishment" or "the liberal establishment." I write this as a progressive who holds the assumption that Rollins is a very ideologically consistent lefty, but I could be wrong... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.61.29 (talk) 07:31, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Henry is NOT Jewish
Yeah I don't know where this idiot got his information from to quote him: "Rollins' father, originally surnamed "Garfinkel", was from a family of Latvian Jewish immigrants."[11] Yeah... He's not Jewish. The source where he got his information is totally inaccurate and unreliable. He is NOT Jewish! At ALL! PLEASE CORRECT THIS! :) Thank-you. :) (120.149.119.57 (talk) 11:07, 23 October 2013 (UTC))


 * I have removed this and a few other unsourced details in the same section. DANZIG666 (talk) 18:32, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Tattoo
The article currently says "Rollins got the Black Flag logo tattooed [...] on the back of his neck". Now I'm no expert on Rollins, and no particular fan, but it seemed quite obvious to me as a casual observer (music videos, Johnny Mnemonic, documentaries) that that tattoo was a barcode. Only recently have I seen footage of Rollins (a documentary about the "Warrior Gene") where it was clearly just a black rectangle. So I was thinking "I guess he got tired of whatever he wanted to say with that barcode and had it changed into a Black Flag." Am I totally off the mark here? --BjKa (talk) 13:42, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Garfield
I see many instances of him being refeeared to as "gafield". Thoguh correct it would be much more benifical to readers to refear to him as "rollins" БοņёŠ ɓɤĭĠ₳₯є  00:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, the references to the name "Garfield" are confusing in the first few paragraphs. He should be referred to by his well-known name throughout the article. I will change the references at this point, and others may change back if they disagree.76.102.63.157 (talk) 06:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone know why he changed his name to Rollins? The article doesn't say why or when the name change occurred.--Divine (talk) 02:59, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I think he did it when he joined Black Flag. You might notice many other Black Flag members also used stage names which still sounded like real names, unlike what guys in many other punk bands would use. I don't think if anyone has asked them about this, but I'd guess it was because of the problems they had with cops. They didn't want to use their real names, but they didn't want obviously fake sounding ones either. This is just my own deduction though... Someone should ask him about it. 2001:14BA:27F6:AC00:60E7:D03C:9432:6D0A (talk) 17:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Cole murder covered twice
The Cole murder is covered twice in this long, rambling article. Needs serious editing! -- Mwanner | Talk 11:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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