Talk:History of the Middle Eastern people in Metro Detroit

Rationale
I combined both Arabs and Chaldeans in the same article since some statistics group them together and some figures refer to Iraqis but don't have info on which ones are Arab and which ones are Chaldean. At the same time the sources make it clear that many Chaldeans do not consider themselves to be Arab so this article must also distinguish them. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:33, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Makes sense to me. Perhaps you could also include information on other Middle Eastern people, such as Armenians, Copts, Maronites, Kurds, Turks, etc? Just a suggestion. Solar-Wind (talk) 19:52, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * If I can find sources describing the groups in Metro Detroit and they are defined as "Middle Eastern" I can also include them. While I found a source that talks about a historical Armenian population it wasn't described as Middle Eastern so I put them in "other White" in Demographics of Metro Detroit. This article does state that many Middle Easterners in Detroit are of the Maronite Catholic faith. I haven't found Kurds or Turks in Metro Detroit. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:21, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Turns out some Lebanese also don't consider themselves Arab. So you have it by "Arab" or "non-Arab" (Chaldean or Mediterranean/Levantine) and you also have national origin, which has both Arabs and non-Arabs: Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine, Egypt, etc. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:56, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

More info from Mayer
According to p. 27 in regards to those from Iraq, Yemen, and the Arabian Peninsula: WhisperToMe (talk) 19:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * "The majority of the people of these three groups live in a combined group which has settled in an area within Dearborn, marked by the boundary of Eagle St. to W. Fort between Dix and W.[...]"

Yemen
There is an "honorary consulate" of Yemen in Dearborn. I don't understand the levels of consulates to know if this is significant for the areticle. Rmhermen (talk) 06:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if honorary consulates are significant enough. If there are reliable sources discussing the honorary consulate's relationship with Detroit or something, maybe. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Smith on whether Chaldeans are Arabs or not
Smith stated on pages 121-122 that in her survey, about 66% strongly argue that Chaldeans are not Arabs while the remainder states that they are Arabs since they learned Arabic in school. She stated that some Chaldeans immigrating to the US don't learn Chaldean until after they arrive. (early immigrants did speak Chaldean)

She stated that some have a "false consensus" effect where a person believes everyone else shares his/her opinion WhisperToMe (talk) 13:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Smith p. 112, meaning of "envelopes"
In p. 112 of Natalie Jill Smith, it states that envelopes is a Chaldean term for money given at weddings and funerals. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Syrians in Detroit?
A Google Book page said that there were Syrians in Macomb County, but I wonder if there is more confirmation of that?

And articles talking about refugees from Syria: WhisperToMe (talk) 03:44, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20150914/BLOG012/150919917/how-can-michigan-welcome-immigrants-lets-start-with-syria
 * http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2015/11/18/oakland-county-pontiac-stop-syrian-refugee-housing/76008598/
 * http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/09/30/syrian-refugees-detroit-michigan-syria-war/72811502/
 * http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/09/10/michigan-likely-take-syria-refugees/72042550/
 * http://www.macombdaily.com/government-and-politics/20151007/county-leaders-at-summit-as-macomb-possible-destination-for-refugees

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"Middle Eastern" title
Given that the article seems to include Arabs and others from North Africa, is simply "Middle Eastern" the right title here? Could something else like "MENA", "Arab and MENA", or "Middle Eastern and North African" work? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)