Talk:Holy city

Constantinople removed from list
I removed Constantinople since it has never been synonymously referred to as 'the "holy city" of Constantinople' unlike Jerusalem, Mecca, or Rome. It was referred most often as 'the imperial city of Constantinople' but traditionally never ascribed as "holy city". And can someone make a disambiguation page for Holy City, Calif. Thanks. Dr mindbender 20:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Constantinople was not just a holy city, it was THE holy city of Christianity; long before even Rome was Christian. The city was ruled by Christian Emperors who held the status of "God's will on earth." Indeed, the Empire of Heaven. Constantinople was the very first Christian capital city to ever exist. When the city fell to Islam in 1453 the Pope called a (short-lived) Crusade to reclaim the city for Christianity. The Holy Bible was compiled inside the Byzantine/Easter Roman Empire, in which Constantinople was the head. The Orthodox Christian Church of Hagia Sophia was the most important Christian Church in the world, long before the Christian split of the Latin West and Greek East in the year 1054. To say that Constantinople is not thought of as a Holy City is an insult, not only to the worlds 350 million Orthodox Christians (and all Christians everywhere) but is also an insult to historical truth. Please do your research before you edit information you have limited understanding of. I am not trying to make an argument between Western and Eastern perceptions of history - but you clearly have a Western view of the subject. Odd considering the Pope regularly visits the Orthodox Patriarch in Constantinople and in 2004 returned the looted bodies of two Saints to the holy city, among other holy relics. Ask any Catholic clergy if Orthodox Constantinople is a Holy City; they will tell you 'absolutely.'--Nikoz78 (talk) 17:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

1st post
Is there a page listing cities that are nicknamed "the holy city"? I'd wager there are a few out there--my hometown, Charleston (SC), is an example. It doesn't fit the list of cities that are loci of particular religions, but Chx does have a strong religious history (e.g., the Jewish population in the 18th century) and a high density of churches per capita. Any other towns like this? Dan3t 05:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Please check Articles for deletion/List of holy cities. This page should be deleted, as its predecessor was. --Ghirla-трёп- 07:27, 7 June 2007

Belfast isnt a Holy City
Can you remove Belfast because it isnt holy!! ShakespearesZombie (talk) 17:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

cities to add
altalena5768 Common name  District   Area (km²)[11]   Hebrew   Arabic   Population (2006)[10]

Afula North 26.909 עפולה العفولة 39,300

Acrea[›] North 13.533 עכו عكا 46,000

Arad South 93.140 ערד عراد 23,400

Arielb[›] Judea & Samariac[›] 14.677 אריאל أريأل 16,500

Ashdod South 47.242 אשדוד أشدود/إسدود 204,400

Ashkelond[›] South 47.788 אשקלון أسكلون/عسقلان/المجدل 107,900

Baqa-Jatt Haifa 16.392 באקה-ג'ת باقة جت 31,600

Bat Yam Tel Aviv 8.167 בת ים بات يام 129,900

Beershebae[›] South 52.903 באר שבע بئر السبع 185,800

Beit She'anf[›] North 7.330 בית שאן بيسان 16,400

Beit Shemeshg[›] Jerusalem 34.259 בית שמש بيت شيمش 69,300

Betar Illit Judea & Samariac[›] 6.801 ביתר עילית بيتار عيليت 29,000

Bnei Brakh[›] Tel Aviv 7.088 בני ברק بني براك 147,800

Carmel Cityi[›] Haifa 15.561 עיר הכרמל مدينة الكرمل 24,400

Dimona South 29.877 דימונה ديمونة 33,400

Eilatj[›] South 84.789 אילת إيلات/أم الرشراش 46,500

El'ad Center 2.756 אלעד أيلعاد 28,600

Giv'atayim Tel Aviv 3.246 גבעתיים جبعاتايم/جفعاتايم 49,400

Hadera Haifa 49.359 חדרה الخضيرة 76,400

Haifa Haifa 63.666 חיפה حيفا 267,000

Herzliyak[›] Tel Aviv 21.585 הרצליה هرتسليا 84,200 Hod HaSharon Center 21.585 הוד השרון هود هشارون 44,500 Holon Tel Aviv 18.927 חולון حولون 167,300 Jerusalem Jerusalem 125.156 ירושלים أورشليم, القدس 732,100 Karmiell[›] North 19.188 כרמיאל كرميئيل 44,200 Kafr Qasimm[›] Center 9.2 כפר קאסם كفر قاسم 17,200n[›] Kfar Sabao[›] Center 14.169 כפר סבא كفار سابا 81,400 Kiryat Attap[›] Haifa 16.706 קריית אתא كريات آتا 49,500 Kiryat Bialikq[›] Haifa 8.178 קריית ביאליק كريات بياليك 36,600 Kiryat Gatr[›] South 16.302 קריית גת كريات جات/كريات غات 47,800 Kiryat Malakhis[›] South 4.632 קריית מלאכי كريات ملاخي 19,500 Kiryat Motzkint[›] Haifa 3.778 קריית מוצקין كريات موتسكين 39,800 Kiryat Onou[›] Tel Aviv 4.112 קריית אונו كريات أونو 26,200 Kiryat Shmonav[›] North 14.228 קריית שמונה كريات شمونة 22,100 Kiryat Yamw[›] Haifa 4.339 קריית ים كريات يام 37,300 Lod Center 12.226 לוד اللد 66,900 Ma'ale Adumim Judea & Samariac[›] 49.177 מעלה אדומים معلي أدوميم 31,700 Ma'alot-Tarshiha North 6.832 מעלות-תרשיחא معالوت ترشيحا 21,200 Migdal HaEmekx[›] North 7.637 מגדל העמק مجدال هعيمق/مغدال هعيمق 24,700 Modi'in Illit Judea & Samariac[›] 4.746 מודיעין עילית موديعين عيليت 34,500 Modi'in-Maccabim-Re'uty[›] Center 50.176 מודיעין-מכבים-רעות موديعين-مكابيم-ريعوت 62,200 Nahariyaz[›] North 10.233 נהריה نهاريا 50,500 Nazareth North 14.123 נצרת الناصرة 64,800 Nazareth Illitaa[›] North 32.521 נצרת עילית الناصرة العليا 43,700 Nesher Haifa 12.790 נשר نيشر 21,300 Ness Zionaab[›] Center 15.579 נס ציונה نيس تسيونا 30,900 Netanya Center 28.954 נתניה نتانيا 174,000 Netivot South 5.626 נתיבות نتيبوت/نتيفوت 24,900 Ofakimac[›] South 10.273 אופקים أوفاكيم 24,500 Or Akivaad[›] Haifa 3.539 אור עקיבא أور عكيفا 15,800 Or Yehuda Tel Aviv 5.141 אור יהודה أور يهودا 31,200 Petah Tikvaae[›] Center 35.868 פתח תקווה بيتح تكفا 184,200 Qalansawe Center 8.417 קלנסווה قلنسوة 17,300 Ra'anana Center 14.878 רעננה رعنانا 72,800 Rahat South 19.586 רהט رهط 40,400 Ramat Gan Tel Aviv 13.229 רמת גן رمات جان/رمات غان 129,800 Ramat HaSharon Tel Aviv 16.792 רמת השרון رمات هشارون 36,800 Ramla Center 11.854 רמלה الرملة 64,200 Rehovot Center 23.041 רחובות رحوبوت/رحوفوت 104,600 Rishon LeZionaf[›] Center 58.704 ראשון לציון ريشون لتسيون 222,300 Rosh HaAyin Center 24.390 ראש העין رأس العين 37,400 Safedag[›] North 29.248 צפת صفد 28,100 Sakhnin North 9.816 סח'נין سخنين 25,000 Sderotah[›] South 4.472 שדרות سديروت 19,900 Shaghur (Shagor) North 17.737 שגור الشاغور 29,200 Shefa-'Amr (Shfar'am)ai[›] North 19.766 שפרעם شفا عمرو 33,500 Tamra North 29.259 טמרה طمرة 26,500 Tayibe Center 18.662 טייבה الطيبة 33,800 Tel Avivaj[›] Tel Aviv 51.788 תל אביב تل أبيب يافا 384,600 Tiberias North 10.872 טבריה طبريا 40,100 Tira Center 11.894 טירה الطيرة 21,100 Tirat Carmelak[›] Haifa 5.601 טירת כרמל طيرة الكرمل 18,800 Umm al-Fahm Haifa 22.253 אום אל-פחם أم الفحم 42,100 Yavne Center 10.700 יבנה يبنة 31,900 Yehud-Monosson Center 5.014 יהוד-מונוסון يهود مونوسون 25,500 Yokneam North 7.390 יקנעם يوقنعم 18,500 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.104.74.55 (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

HOLY CITIES OF SOUTH ASIA
Why Chidambaram(India),Sri Naguleswaram(Sri Lanka),Srirangam(Tirupati is secondary to Srirangam) and Madurai is not listed.These place were holiest and very significant in term of religious history according to Nayanmars Saivism and Alvars Vaishnavism.--Rajendra Prasath Arumon 17:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajendra Prasath Arumon (talk • contribs)

Kairouan
Kairouan is in Tunisia/Africa, not in West Asia. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.236.108.217 (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wittenberg
Wittenberg is known as the "birthplace" of Lutherism, but calling it a "holy city" seems outright silly. The term would be contradictory to Luther's teachings who denied papal primacy and told that the Bishop of Rome was not more important than other bishops. -- 2003:E2:AF2A:4355:1004:4A8B:B503:3EED (talk) 09:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Jerusalem -which country is it in.
If Palestine is a country please send me a map of it. What’s its language ? What’s its currency ? Who governs it ? When was it established ? Name me a past ruler? Does it have an Army? Does it have a Navy? Does it have an Airforce? In Jerusalem,you speak Hebrew,you spend shekels,The Israeli Army,Airforce,Police Force ensure law and order. The Knesset is in Jerusalem -Israeli seat of Government. Where is the Palestinian Government (Palestinian Authority) based? Answer-Not Jerusalem Wiki may not like the answers to the questions but the facts are indisputable. If you can answer the questions asked I would be happy to stand aside.If not then I would expect to see Jerusalem being based in Israel. Many thanks Heoff500 (talk) 16:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Pushing your viewpoints about the legitimacy of Palestine aren't the point of this article nor an appropriate use of Wikipedia. The article Status of Jerusalem shows how contentious this point is. It is probably best to reflect this conflict with the entry reading Palestine/Israel (contested). --Cerebral726 (talk) 17:39, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Vatican Ciity - Holy Cty in Islam
The page lists the Vatican City as a Holy City in Islam, is this correct? There's no citation on the page, nor mention of it in the Vatican City article, and it just seems off to me too? SlakaJ (talk) 17:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. I went ahead and removed it. --Cerebral726 (talk) 20:22, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's the same problems for the notion that New York City is a holy city in Christianity and Judaism. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 23:45, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree with this as well so I went ahead and removed it. Unfortunately this whole article is in pretty poor shape. We may need to just completely raze anything that we can't find a source for given how many speculative or just plain wrong additions there are.--Cerebral726 (talk) 13:55, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Blackpool?
In what sense is Blackpool a holy city? I've never heard that claim before, this article gives no evidence for it, and the Blackpool article makes no mention of it. This article also list Walsingham - which from the Article is probably valid, but the cited source ("The Top Write Your Own Gadgets & E-commerce Product Reviews") is completely irrelevant. Iapetus (talk) 16:02, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Blackpool was added as a replacement for Canterbury by an anonymous user on 23/01/2023 with the edit summary "correcting a typo". I have reverted this vandalism.  The reference for Walsingham was originally 10 Holy places to go on Pilgrimage, which is no longer valid.  It was changed to the current reference as part of a mass update of references by User:RoanokeVirginia on 28/06/2021.  The other changes look valid, so I presume this was just user error rather than vandalism.  I'll remove it for now.  There are probably some usable references on the Walsingham page that could be copied here.  Iapetus (talk) 16:18, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorting
Should these not be sorted by religion instead of region? So cities that are considered important to multiple religions get listed multiple times Alexanderkowal (talk) 15:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Also Zoroastrian, Confucian, Baha'i holy sites are omitted.
 * https://academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php/List_of_Holy_Cities
 * This article does it well in my opinion Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Kyiv
I believe Kyiv should be added on this list, it is the ancient center of the Eastern Orthodox Christian’s, Kyiv Perchersk Lavra is one of the most Holy cathedrals. Many go on pilgrimage to Kyiv 47.229.144.239 (talk) 20:04, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * There are a few sources you can find on Kyiv as a Holy city if you look it up. 47.229.144.239 (talk) 20:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)