Talk:Home School Legal Defense Association

Summarized a quote in the first sentence
I noticed the first sentence of the article contained a direct quote from the HSLDA website, so I attempted to simplify and summarize it. The original sentence was as follows: "The [HSLDA] is a United States-based nonprofit advocacy organization established to defend and advance the constitutional right of parents to direct the education of their children and to protect family freedoms." My summary: "The [HSLDA] is a United States-based organization that seeks to aid homeschooling families through legal representation." The quote seemed a bit cumbersome for a summary section. For full disclosure, I am a student editor and this was my attempt to make a meaningful edit in an article. --Sara Kathryn 04:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC) Cavaliergirl96 (talk)

"Critisims"
I removed the following section, entitled "Critisims":

''Some say that the HSLDA's grassroots lobbying system consists of highly charged "e-lerts" that dictate position and action to recipients, often resulting in a barrage against legislators, which puts homeschoolers in a bad light. [4] The HSLDA is also critisized because it mixes causes and has an agenda well beyond the promotion of homeschooling. These other agendas include religion or divisive social issues like gay marriage.''

Some also assert the HSLDA's policy positions are an attempt to restrict a child's access to open and varied media as to reproduce a politically and religiously hegemonic generation.

Since homeschooling laws are state specific some believe that statewide homeschool associations are most often the best source of information about homeschooling laws and are better suited to lobby their state legislatures.

Its main transgression is that it is unsourced. It is an egregious offender in Wikipedia's policy regarding the use of weasel words. If there are reliable sources criticizing the organization, fine, put it in and source it. But the section above is simply not acceptable in an encyclopedia. Aplomado talk 06:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, agreed with the weaselly construction, but the HSLDA's official web page very clearly states that their position is that marriage is between a man and a woman. I am going to re-add this (mentioning that the web page says it), because I think it's an important point in evaluating whether this is a pro-homeschool organization for everyone, or a pro-discrimination organization that happens to focus on homeschooling as one means of achieving their influence on society. Triangular (talk) 19:24, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * As currently written, that section is almost certainly Original Research, in that it presents a narrative that the source material almost certainly did not intend to communicate. It's not really appropriate to construct "criticisms" from a subjects own web site, since they certainly aren't criticizing themselves. -- LWG talk 04:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Expand -- politics, religion.
This article does not mention the organisation's right-wing religious orientation. It runs Generation Joshua and Patrick Henry College, the latter of whose almus are very active in the U.S. Republican party and as White House interns. They see all this as part of an effort to remake American political culture (and culture, period) in the image of fundamentalist Protestantism. While we must be careful not to be biased in discussing this, this deeply important aspect of the HSLDA must be discussed. -- Zantastik  talk  09:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, HSLDA doesn't run Patrick Henry College - and I don't think it runs Generation Joshua. However, the involvement of HSLDA and HSLDA leadership in starting PHC and GenJ might be worth mentioning.  --Tim4christ17 talk 14:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Touché; while HSLDA doesn't run Patrick Henry College, its chancellor is the president of the HSLDA. As for Generation Josha, its website describes the group as a "branch" of the HSLDA. Also, if one reads Mike Farris's articles in the Washington Times and other media, it's clear that he sees these three organisations as being part of the same movement, striving towards similar (politico-religious) goals. -- Zantastik  talk  20:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, Dr. Farris is the Chairman and General Counsel in HSLDA - he resigned as president to start Patrick Henry College. Thought you might find this quote interesting, though - it states the official relationship between PHC and HSLDA.  It does look like GenJ and the HSLDA PAC are run by HSLDA.  Feel free to include stuff about the relationship between the organizations...just double-check your facts first, okay?  :)  --Tim4christ17 talk 23:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 7. What is HSLDA’s relationship to Patrick Henry College (PHC)?
 * Link to question and answer.

The HLSDA may, or may not, "run" Patrick Henry College, but the assertion one can divine the intent of a college or its governing bodies just by looking at the career choices of a few "almus"[sic] is silly and should be rejected as the asinine guilt-by-association tactic that it is. Moreover, the notion that a school with a mere 320 students can somehow exert broad influence over US cultural and political institutions should not be taken seriously and such feverish paranoia shouldn't come within a mile of an objective entry. We must be careful not to be biased when discussing this? Too late72.49.235.222 (talk) 18:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

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