Talk:Hoodening

Merger proposal
I propose merging the following articles into this one and renaming this article the British hooded animal tradition:
 * Mari Lwyd
 * Láir Bhán
 * The Broad (folk custom)
 * Old Ball
 * Old Tup
 * Old Horse

Most of these articles are quite short. The geographic area and time periods they take place in are relatively small and short. The traditions they discuss have many features in common, likely have a common ancestral tradition, and differ only in details (type of animal, time of year, etc.). The combined article could feature a map and/or table comparing them. Vagary (talk) 21:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * This is a bad proposal. They are linked only by geography. The Mari Lwyd has its own history and associated culture, and is moreover shaped by and mediated through the Welsh language. The very fact that it is a Welsh-language custom gives it a specificity that makes the proposed merger meaningless if not destructive. To merge the Mari Lwyd with English customs would in effect efface its cultural specificity, which would be a substantial loss, especially in the name of such a superficial geographical link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.113.129 (talk) 08:04, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'd support this either. The traditions have distinct regional variations which warrant their own articles. I suspect it is also more likely that readers will search for, say, "Mari Lwyd", than British hooded animal tradition". Then, you've an FA and a GA in there, which will complicate matters. And lastly, I think you should seek the views of who wrote the two good ones. KJP1 (talk) 08:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping, KJP1. I would strongly oppose this move. The fact that most of these articles is comparatively short does not matter; two of them are not, and the others can all be lengthened and expanded given sufficient time and attention. Merging them all together would also conceal the geographical and historical specificity of these different traditions. Midnightblueowl (talk) 09:45, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Even if the articles were all stubs, no one has questioned their notability, whereas I seriously doubt that British hooded animal tradition has any such claim. Moonraker (talk) 13:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Closing, without merging, gived the consistent opposition. Klbrain (talk) 17:50, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Eastern Europe
Similar folk custom exists also in Eastern Europe, at least in Romania and Moldavia, where a goat ("capra" in Romanian) is used as hooded animal. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BxSz7fGbGI. Anyway it is hard to distinguish between a wood-made horse and a wood-made goat :) 86.123.11.155 (talk) 03:54, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

"a hooden horse"
Based on the stated pronunciation, shouldn't we see "an" here? 142.205.202.71 (talk) 19:22, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Payment
Was the payment to the hoodeners always money, or might it be food and drink or some other thing of value? Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:45, 23 May 2023 (UTC)