Talk:Hotteok

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special tool with a stainless steel circle and wooden handle as it cooks
What is this tool called? In korean? Hangul please.

Darrellx (talk) 22:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

EDIT: I found it, it's called " 호떡누르개 "

Darrellx (talk) 16:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

What is it cooked on?

 * Baked on the hot plate.
 * Not a griddle. Look at the picture. I changed the 'hot' to sizzling.


 * That looks exactly like a griddle to me--the kind American diners use to cook hamburgers, pancakes, hash browns, home fries, etc. It's a big, flat metal sheet. Badagnani 03:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * But the Griddle article has a picture, which looks totally different from the plate used for making ho-tteok.--Appletrees 03:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The item in that article is not a griddle, it's some kind of portable item approximating a griddle. For an actual griddle, visit a diner restaurant or use Google images. Badagnani (talk) 22:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Google images link here. Badagnani (talk) 23:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Chinese rice cakes

 * Unlike Chinese rice cakes with meat fillings,
 * I don't know the exact name, because the reference, a newpaper just briefly mentiones that Chinese rice cake with fillings is different from the derivative, ho-tteok. Maybe "Zongzi"?--Appletrees 03:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

When you said "Chinese rice cake," I thought maybe zongzi. But zongzi is wrapped in a leaf. And it's made from actual glutinous rice grains, not rice flour. Badagnani 03:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I stated wrong then. I ate a quite similar shaped Chinese cake in some coutry, but it was stuffed with sweeten pork. It didn't look like zongzi at all. I don't recall the name.....--Appletrees 03:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Let's get the actual name of this. We have WP articles on nearly all such Chinese dumplings/buns/cakes. Badagnani (talk) 23:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Remember your previous insistence on gim (Korean food). Your double standard is not helpful to improve the articles. Don't introduce your original research on a variety of hotteok and search to reference your claim. If you can't, pleas don't insert any. See the talk page, who has answered to you? I'm not your teacher at any time, so do google it or ask your Korean friends. --Appletrees (talk) 23:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

If the text says "Chinese rice cake," the particular rice cake which is meant should be given. We have an excellent set of articles on Chinese rice cakes at WP, which have been lovingly created and maintained, and it will take you just about 10 or so minutes to look through all of them to determine which of them was the one you ate, and are referring to in the text of this article. Badagnani (talk) 23:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The resource that I use does not say about the name, but just mentions it derives Chinese one. So, I do not want to introduce a unconfirmed info from my guessing than written reliable source. Remember the gim talk page. You're doing here totally contradictory to the case. --Appletrees (talk) 23:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

A detailed description of the particular rice cake you have in mind will be a good start, then. If the text mentions such a rice cake, it should be described clearly and thoroughly so that the article is encyclopedic, and so that other editors may determine which of the many varieties of Chinese rice cake is meant in the text of this article. Badagnani (talk) 23:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ask the reporter of the news article. --Appletrees (talk) 00:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Above, you stated:

Thus, it appears that you ate this Chinese rice cake, "in some country." You don't name the country, nor describe the cake in detail, yet you do state that it is not like a zongzi. Thus, since you have consumed this variety of Chinese rice cake, a more detailed description is needed. Badagnani (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I ate several Chinese rice cakes at Chinese towns during my trips and did not ask about their names, so I have no idea about their names. If I knew the name, I would've already addressed it for this article. --Appletrees (talk) 00:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Beginning with a clear, detailed description of these cakes, as well as in which parts of China you ate them, will be a good start, then. Badagnani (talk) 00:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

If the cakes in question are pancakes, the two most familiar ones in Chinese cuisine are the green onion pancake and the laobing, which are similar--both are thin, fried, and made of wheat flour (not rice). Badagnani (talk) 00:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My previous comment about possible Chinese one is pure guessing in case you forgot the fact. Well, ask your Korean friends. I'm done with you.--Appletrees (talk) 00:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Please keep up a Wikipedian spirit; I know you can do it. As hotteok are made of wheat flour, not rice, and since there is no famous Chinese pancake that is similar in texture to the Korean hotteok, it appears that the green onion pancake or the laobing are what is meant. Alternately, the bing (Chinese flatbread) could be meant. Badagnani (talk) 00:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Another possibility is the Popiah, from southern China, which is a very thin pancake. Similar thin pancakes from northern China include those used for Peking duck and Moo shu pork. Badagnani (talk) 00:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

However, the shaobing can be prepared in a sweet manner, so the text in this article wouldn't be correct, as the shaobing can be sweet. Badagnani (talk) 00:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

New article at Chinese pancake summarizes all known Chinese pancakes. Badagnani (talk) 00:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Badagnani's hidden comments

 * It is made of wheat flour dough
 * Unlike Chinese rice cakes containing savory meat fillings,
 * ho-tteok is stuffed
 * one of them is the well-being hotteok.
 * Its dough contains added berries, such as Rubus coreanus (a raspberry-like berry that is also used to make Korean berry wine).

These hidden remarks on the article is really disturbing. Raise your question to Talk page, not place this unhelpful remarks on the article! I've told this million times. --Appletrees (talk) 00:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Additional fillings
This article says that "sweet bean filling" or "fish paste" may be used as fillings. Should these be added? Badagnani (talk) 00:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Season
This article states that the dish is eaten in the autumn as well as the winter. Is that correct? Badagnani (talk) 01:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Chinese
This article states that this is a Chinese dish. Is that correct? If so, does it derive from the shaobing (a popular Chinese sweet pancake)? Badagnani (talk) 01:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Anything can be a derivative of anything. Mental gymnastics. 114.129.188.80 (talk) 09:16, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Meaning of "Ho"
This article states that the "ho" is the sound a person makes after taking the first hot bite of a hotteok. Is this correct? Badagnani (talk) 01:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Which flour?
This article states that rice flour is used rather than wheat flour. This article states that glutinous rice flour is used. Is that correct? Badagnani (talk) 01:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)