Talk:Human trafficking/Archive 3

No mention of Mexico?
How come Mexico is not mentioned in this article? Mexicans make up most of the illegal aliens in the United States. Some were trafficked into the U.S. do to hard labor for little to no pay. Some are sexually exploited. B-Machine (talk) 15:06, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Source-supported info on that should probably be added to the Extent->North America subsection. A little googling showed no shortage of potential sources:, , , , , , , , , , etc., etc. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:20, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Category:Capitalism
Is there a reason for this? Josh (talk) 09:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Some might say Globalisation has resulted in an increase in forced human trafficking as well as in other forms of global human movement. So Globalisation would make a better category

Bias in Map
I think that the map (File:Trafficking in Persons Report 2005.png) is a little too US-biased to be used as the first picture in the lede. (It'd be okay deeper in the article though, under "5 Efforts to reduce human trafficking" or "5.7 United States law", say.) It's from a US government report on compliance with a US law. (It's not even a *prevalence* of human trafficking, it's just legal compliance.) Would it be possible to find a more international source of data? Something like a UN report or data from some NGO like Amnesty International? -- 128.104.112.237 (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the map should stay, but agree that it is US-centric, and not a reflection of prevalence, and putting it in section 5.7 would be better. Chwyatt (talk) 11:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Wage & MNC links
May I add links to Multinational Corporations and wage and or wage slavery? Stars4change (talk) 05:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I resent being taught (by ads) & forced to live my entire life in debt bondage and there's nothing I or anyone can do about it. Isn't that slavery? Yes it is. Stars4change (talk) 06:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll take that second statement as an explanation of the first&mdash;otherwise, it it would be in conflict with the final point in WP:TPG.


 * This article already has way too many See also links, IMHO. See WP:GTL. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

POV issue. (What the user says is true, but it is still POV)
I quote:

"People need to be aware of this. People need to broaden their scope in not just focusing in on a particular "type" of victim that they think would be a victim of human trafficking. The person could be your next door neighbor or the person you work with at your job. If you do come across a person that you think is a victim, you should take action in trying to get information from them and help them. Most times they are vulnerable and feel that it is their fault. They do not feel that they can tell anyone about what is happening to them because they are ashamed."

I am sorry. Yes, it is well intentioned, and yes, few people would argue against that statement, but it is still not right here. First of all, it uses the 2nd person point of view at one point, something encyclopedias should never do. Second, it isn't wikipedia's job to judge how much attention an issue deserves, but that is exactly what this passage does. Wikipedia is for facts and analysis. Getting all palsy-walsy and telling people to focus more on a problem or donate is for UNICEF. Fusion7 (talk) 18:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of NGOs section
I am proposing the deletion of the "non-governmental organizations" section within this article. There are literally hundreds of NGOs that address human trafficking on a domestic and global scale. At this point, nothing is stopping them from advertising or promoting their organization in this article. The NGOs, trivia, and external links within this article comprise over a third of the article itself. And the list continues to grow.

One may suggest that the section should be split into another article. Specifically, starting a new page listing the various organizations, along with links to their specific Web sites or Wiki pages. This was my initial thought. However, a page of this nature is wholly promotional and would continue to grow with no end in sight.

WP:PROMOTION WP:NOTLINK WP:NOTDIR

External links states the following:


 * 1) Links or wikilinks to organizations, even if they are mentioned in the article, are not appropriate unless they are being used as a source to provide content in articles.
 * 2) Links to Web sites are permitted when the Web site has been used as a reliable source, but not to direct readers to the organization's Web site or merely to verify that the organization exists, or that it has a Web site.

As such, I am proposing that the NGOs section in this article be deleted. Cindamuse (talk) 00:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

"National Human Rights Center"
RE: "According to the National Human Rights Center in Berkeley, California, there are currently about 10,000 forced laborers in the U.S..." Sounds like good information, but it is unsourced so I decided to check. There is NOT a "National" Human Rights Center in Berkeley. There is a Human Rights Center which is part of the University of California at Berkeley. The modifier "National" is incorrect and misleading. --72.47.85.102 (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Class Project: Various changes to occur during next 24 hrs.
Hello Wiki community. As a part of a class presentation tomorrow from 2pm - 3:15pm, my group of 3 will be adding new information to this page, which may include media such as videos and graphs. Any edits that we produce will be noted here as we go along. We are new to editing Wikipedia, so any tips you can provide will be much appreciated. Also, we ask that you refrain from reediting our additions before responding here and bringing your thoughts to our attention. When we are finished, please edit as much as you like. Thank You. --Mdixo3 (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

And with that, I think we are finished. Edit whatever you like. --Mdixo3 (talk) 19:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Added to "In popular culture"
 * RCN Televisión in a partnership with UNODC Colombia produced a prime-time soap opera, "Everyone wants to be with Marilyn", informing millions of viewers about human-trafficking within the context of sexual exploitation. The final part of the show follows the story of a young woman who travels abroad thinking she will become a model, only to end up working against her will as a prostitute. Marilyn, in the meantime, sets up an NGO that assists victims of trafficking and offers support to women wishing to abandon the world of prostitution. The soap opera’s main male character plays a UNODC staff member who is working on a national campaign that is part of its Anti-Human Trafficking Project.[126] --Mdixo3 (talk) 01:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Intergovernmental organizations; United Nations"
 * Within UN.GIFT, UNODC launched a research exercise to gather primary data on national responses to trafficking in persons worldwide. This exercise resulted in the publication of the Global Report on Trafficking in Persons in February 2009. The report gathers official information for 155 countries and territories in the areas of legal and institutional framework, criminal justice response and victim assistance services.[118] --Mdixo3 (talk) 03:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Intergovernmental organizations; United Nations"
 * UNODC has assisted many non-governmental organizations in their fight against human trafficking. The 2006 armed conflict in Lebanon, which saw 300,000 domestic workers from Sri Lanka, Ethiopia and the Philippines jobless and targets of traffickers, led to an emergency information campaign with NGO Caritas Migrant to raise human-trafficking awareness. Additionally, an April 2006 report, Trafficking in Persons: Global Patterns, helped to identify 127 countries of origin, 98 transit countries and 137 destination countries for human trafficking. To date, it is the second most frequently downloaded UNODC report. Continuing into 2007, the UNODC supported initiatives like the Community Vigilance project along the border between India and Nepal, as well as provided subsidy for NGO trafficking prevention campaigns in Bosnia, Croatia, and Herzegovina.[118] --Mdixo3 (talk) 05:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "In popular culture"
 * The DNA Foundation was created by celebrity humanitarians Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher in their efforts to fight human trafficking (specifically focusing on sex trafficking of children) in the U.S. In September of 2010, the pair announced the launch of their “Real Men Don't Buy Girls” campaign to combat child sex trafficking alongside other Hollywood stars and technology companies like Microsoft, Twitter, and Facebook. "Real Men Don't Buy Girls" is based on the idea that high-profile men speaking out against child sex trafficking can help reduce the demand for young girls in the commercial sex trade. A press conference was held on September 23rd at the Clinton Global Initiative.[133] --Mdixo3 (talk) 08:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Intergovernmental organizations; United Nations"
 * Further UNODC efforts to motivate action launched the Blue Heart Campaign against Human Trafficking on March 6, 2009[122], which Mexico launched its own national version of in April of 2010.[123] The campaign encourages people to show solidarity with human trafficking victims by wearing the blue heart, similar to how wearing the red ribbon promotes transnational HIV/AIDS awareness.[124] On November 4, 2010, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon launched the United Nations Voluntary Trust Fund for Victims of Trafficking in Persons to provide humanitarian, legal and financial aid to victims of human trafficking with the aim of increasing the number of those rescued and supported, and broadening the extent of assistance they receive.[125] --Mdixo3 (talk) 09:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Global extent, awareness and response; North America; United States"
 * Within the U.S., Atlanta, Georgia has been identified as currently having the highest rate of child sex trafficking, with 200-300 exploited for the commercial sex industry every month. In response, One Voice: Atlanta, an anti-trafficking organization based at the Georgia Institute of Technology, produced a video promo for their “No Traffic is Good Traffic” benefit gala which was held on October 17, 2010.[57] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdixo3 (talk • contribs) 09:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)  --Mdixo3 (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Intergovernmental organizations; United Nations"
 * Public service announcements have also proved useful for organizations combating human trafficking. In addition to many other endeavors, UNODC works to broadcast these announcements on local television and radio stations across the world. By providing regular access to information regarding human-trafficking, individuals are educated how to protect themselves and their families from being exploited.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdixo3 (talk • contribs) 09:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)  --Mdixo3 (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Global extent, awareness and response; Southeast Asia; Philippines"
 * In a country where trafficking is commonplace (especially in airports), organizations such as the Asia Foundation are calling attention to human trafficking in several different ways. In August of 2007, the Philippine Star ran a front page article titled “Internet Pornography: The Untouchable Crime” which called attention to the dangerous nature of human trafficking. In addition, infomercials that depict possible trafficking scenarios are being produced and aired on television to provide viewers with potential situations they should be wary of. The Asia Foundation has also been successful in setting up halfway houses and help desks in international airports dedicated to providing information to individuals to prevent them from being trafficked, and support and consolation for those who have been victims of trafficking. [80] --Mdixo3 (talk) 10:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * We have created a new subsection for The Trafficking Victims Protection Act under "Global extent, awareness and response; North America; United States". All preexisting information has been reorganized.
 * The TVPA has three main measures to prevent the act of human trafficking. These methods include: public awareness, consultation, and economic alternatives. Public awareness is one step in preventative measures of human trafficking. If more people gain information on human trafficking, there will be less people that are blind to the situation. By publicly announcing the acts and ideas of human trafficking, people will become more aware of what is going on behind closed doors. Public media is a way that the information on human trafficking can be spread world wide. Stated in a section analysis of the TVPA is the declaration that the President will create programs in order to increase public awareness of the dangers of human trafficking. Non-governmental organizations will be consulted as a way to initiate action towards public awareness. As more consultations are made, higher authorities will become aware of human trafficking and its dangerous risks and outcomes. The third option to prevent human trafficking is the President’s initiative of administering economic alternatives. The TVPA states that economic deprivation is the primary reason for human trafficking. By changing the poverty issues, the amount of human trafficking victims could decrease, resulting in the abolition of traffickers.[58]


 * According to the TVPA, there are five possible initiatives that will help decrease human trafficking by giving economic alternatives. The first is training the less fortunate for job skills and counseling. By giving the option of job training, the underprivileged people who have no job experience can look for jobs that do not include human trafficking or any form of it. The second alternative is providing programs that promote the possibility of women’s input on economic decision making. The third option is the ability to provide programs in order to keep children, especially young girls, in primary and secondary schools. With the children staying in school, there’s less of a chance that they will be abducted and sold into the human trafficking industry. Also, it allows for a better education, which in turn helps citizens obtain better jobs in the future. With the better education and jobs, poverty may not be an issue therefore keeping citizens away from human trafficking as an answer for a source of survival. The fourth and very important initiative is the development of a curriculum that will warn outsiders the risks and dangers contributing to human trafficking. People may know about the act of human trafficking, however, they may see no huge issue within the industry. By making the risks and dangers known to individuals, they will realize that there is harm done to others within trafficking and support the belief that something should be done to eradicate it. The last way the TVPA aimed to help prevent trafficking has already been mentioned above, and that is the creation of non-governmental organizations in order to make people aware of human trafficking. Grants will be given to these organizations to follow out the act as well.[59]


 * Although the TVPA is a step toward the minimization of human trafficking, there are a few concerns. The first issue is human rights. Humans have the right to be free from punishment, mistreatment, cruel and inhuman treatment, and torture. However, the TVPA has ignored this. In order to go forth with their protection and prevention act, human rights could be acknowledged and promoted to those who do not understand. The TVPA also does not address economic and gender inequalities. Since the majority of human trafficking is result of poor economic systems, there is an obvious inequality of the economics. Many do not have the option to do anything else but use human trafficking as a source of money. They ignore this aspect when coming to terms with preventing trafficking in general. As for gender inequalities, it is no debate that men have a higher status in the community as opposed to females. This makes it simpler for women to be abducted by traffickers because of their sexuality. “Once gender discrimination and inequality have become so ingrained, in a society's customs and traditions, implementing programs to improve educational and economic opportunities is comparable to putting the cart before the horse.” These issues could be addressed within the anti-trafficking laws in order to give women the opportunity to have a say in the acts of the trafficking industry. The third issue that is ignored by the TVPA is “Sensationalism of the Sex Industry.” The industry of sex has been idealized by the media and the participants themselves. The magazine Cosmopolitan promotes sex and states that it is not only fun, but it represents independence and success. The way that sex is commercialized, it makes it seem as if the industry may be admirable to many other people who do not see the dangers of it on top of the sensationalism issues that the media has produced.[60]


 * In 2003, the TVPA was reauthorized as the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (TVPRA). This reauthorization added border interdiction laws in order to enforce the protection of victims of transnational trafficking and prevention of future smugglers. It provides shelters at certain borders for the housing of these victims, as well as gives training for border guards. The training specifically covers how to spot traffickers and their victims along with the ability to handle these people properly. The TVPRA also introduced the use of international media to educate and alert potential victims in addition to the general public and in source countries of human trafficking.[61] --Mdixo3 (talk) 14:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Global extent, awareness and response; North America; United States"
 * Many organizations also provide free telephone hot lines open for the public to call for help if they find themselves in trafficking situations. The National Coalition Against Domestic Violence (NCADV), an American foundation committed to provide aid for victims of domestic violence (a category in which many trafficking victims fall into), set up the Trafficking in Persons and Worker Exploitation Task Force, a hot line that provides interpreters in various languages and the ability to talk to any individuals in need, regardless of one’s status as a citizen in the United States.[57] --Mdixo3 (talk) 14:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Added to "Global extent, awareness and response"
 * Almost every human trafficking prevention organization works to spread public awareness of trafficking. Several methods have been used to achieve public awareness, and while some produce little results, others have succeeded in persuading governments to pass laws and regulations on human trafficking. By pushing the issue of human trafficking into the public eye through the media, organizations work to educate the general public about the dangers of being trafficked and practices of preventing individuals from being trafficked. Television, magazines, newspapers, and radio are all used to warn and educate the public by providing statistics, scenarios, and general information on the subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdixo3 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)   --Mdixo3 (talk) 15:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Additional footnote added to "Intergovernmental organizations; United Nations"
 * 131.^ http://www.youtube.com/unodc#p/u/2/VgBgbKcUGyw - video featuring Mexico's Blue Heart Campaign against Human Trafficking. --Mdixo3 (talk) 15:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Blurry distinction between trafficking and sex work
I will only point out one instance, but I think the article is like this in many places: "Various work in the sex industry includes prostitution, dancing in strip clubs, performing in pornographic films and pornography, and other forms of involuntary servitude." The implication is that all sex work is trafficking, that no female sex workers are independent or free. I think the distinction between trafficking and sex work should be drawn a little more visibly in the article. It's all to the good that human trafficking is becoming a focus of law enforcement and that the burden of guilt is being shifted off of sex workers themselves onto the people who control them - as long as it is in fact a case of trafficking that is at issue. The public awareness campaign started by the 2000 law seems to have led to a recasting of all prostitution and sex work as trafficking. I have seen no data, and this article certainly presents no data, regarding what proportion of sex work is in fact related to trafficking. Rlitwin (talk) 20:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

800.000 in 2005
A 2005 US report said that annually, 600.000-800.000 people are being trafficked. Since what year did they start to count and is there any general estimate up until 2010-2011 for the amount of people trafficked? The source given for this statement is not the actual US report I should mention, but it does list another figure by the UN: "The International Labor Organization (ILO) the United Nations (UN) agency charged with addressing labor standards, employment, and social protection issues estimates that there are 12.3 million people enslaved in forced labor, bonded labor, forced child labor, sexual servitude, and involuntary servitude at any given time." If we can get our hands on those actual reports we could be more informative. 81.68.255.36 (talk) 10:56, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Accuracy and precision of the masthead image map
Is this map good enough to be used as a masthead image on an important article?

I ask because the author of this map at Commons has a truly appaling track record for accuracy - see Commons:user talk:KVDP. On topics that I am personally familiar with, his work is unacceptably poor and nearly all of it has been deleted for failing even the lax quality standards of Commons. I'm no expert on this particular topic, but please check the quality of this map before continuing to rely on it. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Very poor map. Here is the original report by UNODC: http://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/HT-globalpatterns-en.pdf

United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) Trafficking in Persons: Global Patterns

Useful excerpt from the report: (pag 64)

"With reference to the citation index, ten countries in the Trafficking Database score very high as reported destinations for trafficked victims. Five of these countries are in Western Europe (in alphabetical order): Belgium, Germany, Greece, Italy and the Netherlands. Among Asian countries that score very high are Israel and Turkey (Western Asia and Turkey); Japan (Eastern Asia); Thailand (South-Eastern Asia). The other very highly reported destination country is the United States (North America). Twenty-one countries (or territories) are listed as high as reported countries of destination. These are, in alphabetical order and by sub-region: Austria, Denmark, France, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom (Western Europe); Australia (Oceania); Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Kosovo (Serbia and Montenegro) and Poland (Central and South Eastern Europe); Cambodia (South-Eastern Asia); Canada (North America); the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong China SAR, Taiwan Province of China, (Eastern Asia); Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (Western Asia and Turkey); India and Pakistan (South-Central Asia). http://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/HT-globalpatterns-en.pdf

Look also at figure 28 of the report. http://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/HT-globalpatterns-en.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.174.88 (talk) 16:53, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The images you are referring to in http://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/HT-globalpatterns-en.pdf seem to refer to page 38 and 39 (and again at page 59, 62, 64). It should be noted that I think the data of these maps itself is unreliable; this as


 * countries of origin and destination overlap~; also the data greatly changes depending on the year; to adress this recalculation of the numbers is necessairy (see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Refugee#Images )
 * allot of countries you mention are transit countries rather than destination countries (ie you mention Belgium: living myself in Belgium, and having cross-compared with the refugee streams, it is highly appearant that this is a transit country (for people en route to England).


 * If needed, I would like to change my map and then see it reintegrated to the article; however, the source documents need to be reliable/correct.


 * Btw: referring to my user talk page and saying that "allot of my images were deleted and so I must be a very poor cartographer" is flawed at best. With the amount of images I made, actually little images have been removed, largely due to my accuracy. Where I made mistakes, I try to correct them, although even then images are sometimes still removed, despite discussing with members and correcting the mistakes one by one; see a map I made previously and which was removed at wikimedia commons (still available at http://www.appropedia.org/File:Contemporary_piracy_map.png )

User: KVDP) 09:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

No mention of Saudi Arabia?
Saudi Arabia was just listed by the State Department as ranking amongst the top 5 countries in the world with the poorest record in human trafficking. How in the world are they not included in your article? I smell a lot of bias here. Please include a substantial and unbiased discussion on Saudi Arabia if you want this article to be taken remotely serious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rothschild2020 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Lots of countries are not mentioned -- I don't know why. Saudi Arabia is Tier 3; the article doesn't mention any Tier 3 countries -- I don't know why. As of 2011, those would be Algeria, Burma, Gunea-Bissau, Iran, Kuwait, North korea, Lebanon, Lybia, Madagascar, Mauritania, Micronesia, Papua New Guinea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zimbabwe. See . Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion
This suggestion relates to at least the two preceding sections on this talk page.

I just did several hours of work on the subsections of this article relating to specific countries, putting in 2011 data and fixing dated info presented as if it is current. This suggestion would scrap all of that work, but I think that it would improve the article.

I suggest that all the country specific sections be scrapped and replaced with a table similar to the following, listing all countries reported upon in the annual TIP report:

What say? If there's consensus to do this, I can start on the work. It's probably only a few hours work, but might spread out over several days.

Also, the map needs to be updated to agree with the 2011 report. I can probably do that too when I get around to it, but I'd appreciate someone else taking that on. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Just to clarify -- my present intention in the absence of objection/discussion here is to start work as described above in the near future (in a few days -- perhaps a week or so). I'm currently traveling, and probably won't start on this until I get back home, unwind, and have some free time. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I've started work on putting together the table at User:Wtmitchell/Sandbox. I'll continue work there as I have time and, when done, I intend to move the table to this article -- replacing the current Global extent, awareness and response section -- probably with a different heading.

I'm having some trouble with table organization. I started off with a geographic organization by continent and then continental region, similar to the organization of the current section, but some countries currently not appearing in the article don't seem to fit well into that structure -- Bahrain is an example. I'm thinking of changing the Continent and Region headings to Region and Area. and putting either a continent like Africa or a region like Middle East into the Region column as seems most appropriate country-by-country. Does anyone here have any other suggestions about this? Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I've finished my edits to redo the Global extent section. This was a lot more work than I thought it would be when I started. My changes still need an independent verification against the cited supporting sources -- I wouldn't be surprised if there are some errors in there which I have not caught. My final edit attempted to add colors to the table using colors similar to the colors on the map. I haven't used exactly the same colors as are presently used on the map as those colors used as background interfere with readability of foreground text. The colors I've used may not be optimum, but they ought to be easy to change. The map still needs to be redone to reflect the 2011 data instead of the 2010 data -- it would probably be a good idea for the colors in the table and the colors in the map to be harmonized. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

History of Human Trafficking Poorly Written
The History section appears to have edits from multiple sources, however, it in several instances, it has poor phrasing, spelling errors and certain inconsistencies. Some of the information looks wrong and it lacks proper citation. I would edit it myself, but I'm not confident that I could do it properly.

96.240.187.157 (talk) 04:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Antonio T.

In the Table
Next to China in the table insert or reinsert in the right-hand column the link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_China Campolongo (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Tone too essay-like
I feel the tone (and I think many of you will agree with me) is too essay-like. I can't go through it all and fix it, so would you help me? Earendil56 (talk) 01:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 December 2011
I know a lot f people who live and work in the chinese community. Your Vice unit, is a big joke, Not only do Vice police trun a blnd eye to massage and spas that are doing (FULL SERVICE) they do it for a money kick back to turn a blind eye to what is going on inside the spa. For this service some of your vice police come back that don't pay the kick back  are check often others are never checked. I have seen type of action fro a while, so when i heard the story of TV about closing the Full Service spas down everyone in the chines community knowns it will not happen as long as vice is part of it by getting paid and getting free massages along with money as a deterent to turn the other way or not check at all. They are men first, police secong.

68.224.148.99 (talk) 02:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Please add external link to the Anti Trafficking Alliance
This charity website. www.atalliance.org.uk. It is a great resource related to sex trafficking and has specific information for the London 2012 olympics. Please consider adding it in the external links section. Davecaygill (talk) 20:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC)