Talk:Hyperthyroidism

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Should treatment discussion be on pages more specific to complaint?

Whilst most hyperthyroidism is easily treated, there are conditions that cause hyperthyroidism that are less easy to treat. Or as the advice one thyroid charity gives its telephone advisers 'avoid saying "it'll be alright" as sometimes it isn't'.

Radioiodine and Surgery treatment
The text concerning the above comes in part from MediPrimer:Hyperthyroidism. As the copyright holder of that website, I authorize the use of this text under the GFDL as part of Wikipedia. Yashka78 00:11, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC) Well, I regard, te article must explain about the preparation step by step that wich th patients must take when are treat, for example, they need to remain in dark place, singles, without other persons,because the drog is radiactive.

In animals
Surgery is an option in feline hyperthyroidism, although it carries with it a number of risks. Radioiodine treatment is usually curative, while medication with methimazole may be used to control symptoms. All of these treatment options have advantages and disadvantages, so it is important to consider these and discuss them with a veterinarian.

"hyperthoxemia"?
What does this word mean? It's in the opening paragraph, but it doesn't google out. Google suggests "hyperthyroxemia", but that's not much better, with only 60 hits on google. Pubmed didn't have any hits for either, but suggested "hyperoxemia" for the first word and "hyperthyroxinemia" for the second one. If somebody knows what the author was going for, please fix it, but otherwise we might need to take the sentence out.--Arcadian 01:56, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * hyperthyroxinemia - fixed. --Hugh2414 09:34, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response and fix. --Arcadian 15:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Other symptoms
Gynaecomastia and feminization as hypertiroidism symptoms. Just added some extra info, as they are quite prevalent. Will continue to edit the article with up to date info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleyte (talk • contribs) 00:39, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. It may just be me, but isn't eye bulging a sign of hyperthroidism?


 * No, not necessarily. It may occur in Graves' disease, a common (but not the only) cause of hyperthyroidism. Isolated toxic nodules and a toxic nodular struma are not typically characterised by eye bulging. The eye bulging is due to the presence of TSH receptors on the retraorbital musculature, which are stimulated by the antibody. JFW | T@lk  21:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

T3 & T4
I noticed the article says hyperthyroidism can be caused by an excess or either T3 or T4 or both. Are the symptoms any different depending on which? 69.85.180.128 11:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No, unless they are being caused by overose on pills. Then the T3 symptoms go away faster when the pills are stopped, due to its shorter half-life. S  B Harris 15:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Natural treatments?
Does anyone know of any supposed natural treatments, like with herbs or exercises? --Remi0o 03:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Unlikely - the FDA would put a stop to that quickly... &#91;&#91;TheAngriestPharmacist]] 09:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Under the Food and Diet section, something about the effect of goitrogenic foods such as cabbage, cauliflower etc, which are members of the Brassica family, on hyperthyroidism may be mentioned. A diet high in such foods may show an anti thyroid effect, though using this alone is not advisable, and must be done in conjunction with proper medication and treatment. One reference in this regard is Chandra, Amar K et al, Indian J Med Res 119, May 2004, pp 180-185.nimswrit (talk) 17:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Thyroid Storm Treatment

 * Propylthiouracil 	900–1200 mg/day orally in four or six divided doses
 * Methimazole 		90–120 mg/day orally in four or six divided doses


 * Sodium iodide 		Up to 2 g/day IV in single or divided doses
 * Lugol’s solution 	5–10 drops three times a day in water or juice
 * Saturated solution of KI	1–2 drops three times a day in water or juice


 * Propranolol 		40–80 mg every 6 h

&#91;&#91;TheAngriestPharmacist]] 09:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Dexamethasone 	5–20 mg/day orally or IV in divided doses
 * Prednisone 		25–100 mg/day orally in divided doses
 * Methylprednisolone 	20–80 mg/day IV in divided doses
 * Hydrocortisone 		100–400 mg/day IV in divided doses

2 issues - firstly, you should mention that the iodine based compounds ought to be given 1 to 4 hours after propylthiouracil (PTU). PTU is also the drug of choice for storm because of its effect on reducing T4 to T3 conversion. secondly i note that the main article states that TSH is the marker used in detecting hyperthyroidism - however there are certain conditions in which TSH is elevated (e.g. TSHoma) or unreliable (e.g. pregnancy) -- Unsigned


 * Sometimes though, TSH is all that can be used in detecting underlying thyroid issues as is
 * the case in subclinical hyper(or hypo)thyroidism. &#91;&#91;TheAngriestPharmacist]] 03:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
Hashimoto's Thyroiditis is listed as the forth major cause of hyperthyroidism in this article but looking at the Hashimoto's article that it links to it is clear that it is a cause of HYPO thyroidism as it is a result of the autoimmune system attacking the thyroid gland.

Would someone care to clarify/fix/comment on this issue? Sail.not.swim (talk) 23:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Hashimoto's thyroiditis is autoimmune inflamation and destruction of the thyroid gland as opposed to graves disease, in which auto antibodys mimick TSH to stimulate the thyroid.

In hashimoto's the initial inflamation of the gland causes release of T3 and T4 leaving the person transiently hyperthroid which is often sub clinical. As more and more and more of the gland is inflamed, damaged and destroyed its capability to produce T3 and T4 is compromised and the transient hyperthyroidism gives way to hypothyroidism, the more common clinical presentation of hashimoto's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.235.131.226 (talk) 20:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

PBDEs & hyperthryoidism in cats
This subject has been given undue prominence - the 2007 article which proposed a link between PBDE and hyperthyroidism in cats showed that the level of PBDEs in cats with hyperthyroidism was not significantly higher than the levels in other groups of cats, giving no evidence that PBDEs were responsible for the increase in hyperthyroidism in pet cats. A good discussion of the original Dye article was printed in the letters to the Veterinary Record: (letter from Kerry Simpson and the Feline Advisory Bureau feline expert panel )

Alternative suggested causes of the increased incidence of feline hyperthyroidism have been proposed over time - I would suggest these should be included in any discussion, although nothing has been proven to be a cause, otherwise hyperthyroidism in cats would be preventable... Murphyetta (talk) 14:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Tiredness
Alot of well-meaning websites and people say that only hypothroidism causes symptoms of tiredness. However, I would like to bring it to people's attention that a hyperactive thyroid also causes tiredness... usually after anxiety symptoms or hyperactivity symptoms but still it can cause severe tiredness and an inability to experience pleasure (anhedonia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interestedperson (talk • contribs) 12:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Radioiodine treatment for cats - biased?
The section on radioiodine treatment of cats reads as though it is only available in the US as it talks of quarantine periods varying from state to state. It would be more of a world view to say "from country to country, and even from place to place within one country"

It also makes two statements about surgery, that the other gland can become hyper after surgery and that the patient can become hypothyroid after surgery, but both of these are true of I-131 treatment as well.

PurplePenny (talk) 20:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Varying Etiology of Thyrotoxicosis as Graves Disease with location
Hi, I think it should be mentioned that, although in the article it says that Graves disease is the cause of thyrotoxicosis 70-80% of the time (and this may be the world average, I don't know), actually it substantially varies with location. In the USA, 93% (toxic nodules - 5%, other 2%); the European average, 60% (toxic nodules 9%, other 31%); Switzerland, 43% (toxic nodules 57%). I'm a medical student and this was in my lecture notes. Therefore, I'm certain it would be right but also I can't find a reference for it. I have asked my lecturer so will find out why this happens (as genetics and environment seem too similar to warrant such a difference) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.92.101.51 (talk) 23:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

nice, hope you can get the reference Starvee44 (talk) 10:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Reference 6 which refers to Graves' disease is an inactive link(gives error 404 - Not found).nimswrit (talk) 08:38, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Thyroid storm dating
Query: Should 'Earlier this century' be 'until the late 20th century'?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The reference (and the reference it referred to) says 20th. I made it clear and removed the notation. MartinezMD (talk) 19:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

A nice 2012 Lancet review
-- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Separate human and nonhuman animals
Would it be wise to separate out the section on humans from the material on nonhumans? It seems to me that it would keep each page clear and to the point. For example, if I visit "Food" I don't get bombarded with info about food for cats, dogs, etc...just generally for humans. Gautam Discuss 22:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the vet stuff should probably be a completely separate article. We should have a hyperthyroidism (medicine) and a hyperthyroidism (veterinary medicine). S  B Harris 23:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

copyvio removal
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Hyperthyroidism usually begins slowly....causes other problems.

That entire paragraph was a straight lift from their website, which is straight copyright-protected.

Causes
Toxic Thyroid Adenoma has "(the most common etiology in Switzerland, 53%, thought to be atypical due to a low level of dietary iodine in this country)" next to it - however it seems that the iodine deficiency is a cause of multinodular goitre from other sources. Can any medics or even card carrying endocrinologists confirm this?

Sleevicus (talk) 20:55, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hypothyroidism
Hyperthyroidism due to certain types of thyroiditis can eventually lead to hypothyroidism (a lack of thyroid hormone), as the thyroid gland is damaged. Also, radioiodine treatment of Graves' disease often eventually leads to hypothyroidism. Such hypothyroidism may be avoided by regular thyroid hormone testing and oral thyroid hormone supplementation. -- references needed, and 'avoided' should be replaced by 'treated'.nimswrit (talk) 07:12, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
 * s/avoided/treated/ makes sense, just do it. The statements otherwise seem obvious so references are only needed if contested. Richiez (talk) 13:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Guideline
10.1089/thy.2010.0417 is the ATA/AACE guideline for hyperthyroidism. Worth including.

This is the UK guideline, now 7 years old and in need of updating and formatting. JFW &#124; T@lk  20:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Diagnostic criteria based on clinical signs
has anybody ever heard of the Burch-Wartofsky score? shouldn't this be included? http://flexikon.doccheck.com/en/Burch-Wartofsky-Score — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rainbowofknowledge (talk • contribs) 14:34, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * It is specifically a score for thyroid storm. JFW &#124; T@lk  16:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Lancet seminar
10.1016/S0140-6736(16)00278-6 JFW &#124; T@lk  16:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hyperthyroidism
As I Dr Tushar Ambadkar (Mobile No -9665035006)read Wikipedia of Hyperthyroidism & Hypothyroidism, they only mentioned that Allopathic medications like hormone pills , beta blockers , radioactive iodine & surgery is the line of treatment but as I am daily seeing very fast results in these kinds of patients with Advanced Homeopathy Treatment & permeant cure in Graves , Hypothyroidism diseases. Dr Tushar Ambadkar (talk) 15:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Find some reliable sources to cite, especially  reliable medical sources, and you can edit the page yourself. Such sources are necessary; without them any changes will be swiftly reverted. --Thnidu (talk) 18:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * On the subject of sources, see above. (Thnidu again)
 * Also,, as I see that you are a brand-new Wikipedian (10 hours), please read Help:Editing before doing any editing.
 * And your user page, containing nothing but your business address and phone number, is close to being self-promotion. That's not what Wikipedia is for. --Thnidu (talk) 01:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

distinguishing from hypothyroidism
I added "hypothyroidism" to the "distinguish from" hatnote. reverted my edit with the memo "Discussed in the text".

Yes, it is mentioned in the text-- a hundred words later, at the bottom of one long paragraph: "The opposite is hypothyroidism, when the thyroid gland does not make enough thyroid hormone." My concern is that a reader who is not familiar with the terminology will accidentally come here looking for hypothyroidism, struggle down that paragraph, and only at the bottom of it learn that they have wasted their time. Or, even worse, quit partway through the paragraph thinking they have found the information they're looking for.

I hope I have convinced you to undo your reversion, Doc James, rather than having to take this disagreement higher or wider.

-- Thnidu (talk) 00:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with the reader learning something about hyperthermia before they find out about hypothermia. The opposite is not the most important thing about this condition and thus should not go first. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 06:49, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

NEJM
10.1056/NEJMcp1709318 - subclinical hyperthyroidism. JFW &#124; T@lk  08:17, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Advertising cat food
The section on cats seems to include ill-disguised advertising for Hill brand cat food. Chipotle (talk) 15:14, 29 December 2022 (UTC)