Talk:International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because there are numerous third party citations, and the neutral article written about this organization is on par with many other articles about similar organizations. I'm really shocked that this would be marked for speedy deletion. It wasn't approved as a stub previously, so I did plenty of research. Who do I appeal this to? I'll write more, but I want to get this in before it gets deleted. At least give it some time to debate this properly.--TBliss (talk) 04:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I am really quite shocked that you would mark this article for speedy deletion. This is a partner article to Certified Sex Addiction Therapist which has been edited and approved already by several Wikipedia editors.  This article cites 17 references!  Including Newsweek, the American Psychological Association, the National Board of Certified Counselors, and several newspaper articles. Only four of the citations refer to the official site or an associated site.  The other 13 qualify as third party references.  This is not a promotional article, it is written in an informative, encyclopedic manner about an important subject.  The problem with the subject of sex addiction is that there is a lot of sub-standard information.  IITAP is THE organizing body that sets the standard for this field.  -- As the references attest.  Why don't you do some reading on the subject before casually deleting appropriate articles that meet Wiki standards!  This must be referred to a greater decision-making process.TBliss (talk) 04:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion

 * An article about a company or a product which describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion.

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it's about a legitimate standards body. Whoever tagged this probably doesn't think Sex addiction is 'real' and is pushing that POV via prod. --Uncle Ed (talk) 04:33, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Merge suggestion
Dude! Chill out and "feel your bliss", DGG has suggested a merge to Certified Sex Addiction Therapist. Is that okay with you? --Uncle Ed (talk) 04:51, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Dude. I just wish people would follow their bliss. I wouldn't be into a merge but it's better than a deletion. DGG said he'd edit both articles so they remain and that's acceptable to me. Although I think the Certified Sex Addiction Therapist article is pretty damn neutral - he tagged that one too for being promotional.TBliss (talk) 05:33, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * He changed "delete" to "merge". Change the things you can. --Uncle Ed (talk) 05:41, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * He wrote me a note on my Talk and also left a note on Talk:Certified Sex Addiction Therapist that he would edit the IITAP article and keep it. And remove redundant info from Certified Sex Addiction Therapist and keep that too. I'm fine with a short article for IITAP and maybe a shorter article for CSAT - the field is rapidly developing and I'm sure more references will be available in the future with more info to make both articles more comprehensive. And the only thing I can really change is me. -- m*e.  See, I just changed it and all it took was an asterisk!TBliss (talk) 05:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I've now merged the Certified Sex Addiction Therapist article into this one, as opposed to the other way round: the IITAP appears to offer more than one certification, although from what I read in this article, sex addiction seems to be its principal focus. -- The Anome (talk) 16:59, 4 February 2012 (UTC)