Talk:It Bites

Neutrality
Yeah, that whole last paragraph...may wanna take a look at that. Someoneinmyheadbutit&#39;snotme 20:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd go further - the whole thing is subjective (q.v. "a clever mix of"). Unsupported, subjective statement, and frankly very badly written.  If I knew anything about the history of the group, and citations to call I'd rewrite the thing. Cain Mosni (forgot to sign, way back somewhen)

It's so far from neutral it's slightly ridiculous. Needs a complete re-write, possibly linked in with Dunnery and more of a biography.

It Bites never sounded anything like 'Genesis', but definately like 'Yes' - have you heard the material?

WHAT IS THAT BULLSHIT WITH '.. THAT WE KNOW AND LOVE TODAY' ?!!

Any article that starts like this: "The band's initial rise to fame was on the back of the unusual and catchy 1986 single "Calling All The Heroes", which gained them a Top 6 UK chart hit and an unwelcome reputation as a novelty act - something the band was to dispel via their instrumental virtuosity, their reputation as an excellent live act and a measure of sheer determination." Deserves an NPOV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.68.24 (talk) 02:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Reformation speculation
Has the reformation been verifiably reported? I know it's on the cards, and on the wires underground, but has it been confirmed anywhere? If not, it's not a suitable comment for the article. Cain Mosni 20:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah - silly question. yes, it has been reported on their own web site, and the insertion is a direct lift of text from said site.  Naughty, naughty - that's a copyright violation.  Cain Mosni 21:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

They are touring the UK soon, Ticketmaster are selling tickets as we type. The main reason I'm even writing this was to see in the 'reformed' band had Dunnery in, which it doesn't.

Ignorance
The text is a copy from answers.com, it's crap and ignorant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.196.249.98 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 25 October 2006


 * Err, no. Answers.com uses a snapshot of Wikipedia to provide its content.  Before making accusations of ignorance, it behoves you to make sure you are in possession of the facts. Instead of throwing useless barbs, why not try a little constructive contribution to improve matters?  Cain Mosni 18:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't mean to make an unconstructive contribution, but I just had to say, I find this comment totally funny. SteubenGlass (talk) 00:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

POV
I notice that, following on from the above comments, some two to three years on, this article is still full of fancruft and opinionated codswallop. The references, in the main, are from fansites and the band's own pages - hardly likely to give a rounded, neutral, encyclopedic viewpoint. Verifiability, Reliable sources and Neutral point of view seem to have got drowned in the adulatory, masturbatory froth. Can anyone turn this travesty into an encyclopedic article, or is some serious pruning now obligatory ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Have begun taking steps to improve the article by seeking out more sources and paring down the more over-enthusiastic prose (and that which might be mistaken for peacockery). I've run across the problem that the band's profile appears to have been highest in the 1980s (pre-Internet!) and that few of the articles on them have been reproduced as primary-source web text. In these cases I've referred to transcriptions/scans on fan pages and worked on the "assume good faith" principle. (I saw many of these articles in print at the time, although I did not collect them myself). In the case of dissension, I feel that it would be best to flag these references individually as being secondary or tertiary sources. I've also located several magazine articles on the band which I can't access or quote (they're not reproduced in full online, just noted as part of the content of particular magazine issues), but have presently provided evidence of their existence under "Print-only references" in the hope that either myself or other researchers may find copies at a later date. Not a bad start, I hope, but more can be done in terms of referencing and polishing. - Dann Chinn (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I tried to neutralize the "early years" section, but since the text got reduced heavily, I fear I might have skipped something important. Could anyone please check this for me? Gabrielkfl (talk) 21:03, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * That area is better, although I notice the 'Sound' paragraph is still full of fanciful opinion, and the only reference therein is then downgraded by some editor's own opinion ! If the article continues in this vein, and I frankly lost interest at that point, then there is still considerable work to be done.  It may seem incredulous that the article is now far more neutral in tone than it once was. More  [reliable sources] would seriously help this article towards an encyclopedic style and content, although I do fully appreciate and empathise with Dann Chinn's comments above.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:43, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Name
No mention of the fact they were named because of a dog where they practised. "Be careful - it bites". Gusssss (talk) 13:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

The first episode of The Goodies has a dog guarding their bicycle at the Tower of London with the sign "IT BITES". Don't know if that's relevant. quorn3000 (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:16, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

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