Talk:Javan slow loris

Body weight?
According to this source


 * Title: Conservation implications of low encounter rates of five nocturnal primate species (Nycticebus spp.) in Asia
 * Author(s): Nekaris, KAI; Blackham, GV; Nijman, V
 * Source: BIODIVERSITY AND CONSERVATION  Volume: 17   Issue: 4   Pages: 733-747   Published:  2008

the weight of this species ranges from 565–687 grams. The source currently used is by the same main author, and one year more recent in appearance—but actually not in reality because it's a book chapter ... Sasata (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I would go with your source. The "book" publication was giving an approximate, and it's impossible to say what they were rounding up from.  Btw, have you submitted this for DYK yet, or do you need me to?  Any suggestions for a hook? –  VisionHolder  « talk » 19:02, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Have not submitted for DYK, but let's maybe wait a day; I'll continue adding stuff and perhaps something more interesting than what we have now might turn up (expansion started Jan 10 so we have a little time). Any chance of a pic for this species? Sasata (talk) 19:18, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Dr. Nekaris said she has photos of all the species, but it will take time. Also, she can't send her best photos because she uses those to fund her research.  (She's one of the only people with these photos.)  She has offered to go through our existing collection on WikiCommons to sort through them and correct the names.  If something comes out of that, or if she releases any photos soon, I'll let you know.  And speaking of photos, I finally got a release for the photo of a loris getting its teeth cut!  It's very sad to look at, but the quality is superb!  Now if I could just get one more person to write back and release the photos of loris traditional medicine.... –  VisionHolder  « talk » 19:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok I'm good for now; I combed through the databases (Web of Science and JSTOR) and put in everything I had access to. Haven't touched any sources from the net, and the eventual library visit will probably unearth some more stuff. I'd like to find citations for the synonyms and discuss them a bit in the taxonomy section, but that'll take some digging. Have a go and see if you can think of a hook. Sasata (talk) 05:37, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll have a look at the DYK submission and hook when I'm sober. (Right now, I'm good for repetitive tasks only.)  On the other articles, you're welcome to leave some articles for me, especially since I want to push these the whole way through GAC and FAC.  ;-)  But otherwise, the article looks great!  Thanks!  –  VisionHolder  « talk » 05:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Additional sources
Check out this article by William Henry Flower in 1862 where he discusses in detail the brain of this species (apparently Flower was a primate brain expert). I'm not sure whether it merits more than a brief mention here, but thought I'd bring it up. I guess there's a full length followup article in the Transactions but I wasn't able to find it. Sasata (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * In a similar vein, this journal (of which I can only see a snippet) has an article about "The medulla oblongata of the Nycticebus javanicus". Sasata (talk) 15:34, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The flatworm (Trematoda) Phaneropsis oviforme has been identified as a parasite of this species. Sasata (talk) 15:42, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added the parasite, but I'm not sure what to do with the material on the brain. Ucucha suggested off Wiki that we cover the material that makes this species stand out from the others, but I don't seen anything of the sort.  Instead, the paper seems to discuss the details of the species' brain and then compares it to that of Lemur, higher primates, and then other mammals.  Maybe we should just mention that Flower examined the brain and discuss his conclusions (in terms of taxonomy)?  Also, if we do cite Flower, I'm going to need help constructing the citation.  –  VisionHolder  « talk » 04:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, one thing that is unique to this slow loris is that its had its brain examined by an expert, but yeah, a brief mention should suffice. I'll leave the details of what to include to you guys! For the citation, how about this:  Sasata (talk) 17:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Body weight
I have a comment about this sentence in the second paragraph of the lede:


 * The Javan slow loris weighs between 565 and 687 g (1.246 and 1.515 lb) and has a head-body length of about 293 mm (11.5 in).

For those readers used to ounces and pounds, "between 1.246 and 1.515 lb" does not make much sense. It would be more helpful to express the figures with fractions, even if rounded off, something like "between 1-1/4 and 1-1/2 lb". (By the way, is it MoS policy to use the singular lb even if it is over a pound? We would normally say, "one-and-a-half pounds", not "one-and-a-half pound", so I would use lbs rather than lb.)

Similarly, for those readers used to inches and feet, "11.5 in" is odd. Couldn't this be expressed as "11-1/2 in"? CorinneSD (talk) 16:32, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Part of this is a issue with the convert template. I'll shorten the rounding, but honestly I'd rather use the template than use rounded fractions.  Sometimes a tenth of a pound is important.  Otherwise the template generates the units, so if there's a problem, it should be taken up there.  Thanks. –  Maky  « talk » 03:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

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