Talk:Jazz

Semi Protected Edit Request for Jazz
Cioa fellow Wikipedia editors: Just a quick suggestion of additional text and references to be added to the section entitled Diversity in Jazz: Jews in Jazz. The following text might be helpful:
 * Shep Fields also helped to popularize "Sweet" Jazz music through his appearances and Big band remote broadcasts from such landmark venues as Chicago's Palmer House, Broadway's Paramount Theater and the Starlight Roof at the famed Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. He entertained audiences with a light elegant musical style which remained popular with audiences for nearly three decades from the 1930s until the late 1950s.

I hope it proves useful. Many thanks for your consideration and Happy Editing!160.72.80.178 (talk) 23:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)NHPL 160.72.80.178 (talk) 23:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC) 160.72.80.178 (talk) 00:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't know who makes the final decision, but this seems like a reasonable request to me. --Comment by Selfie City ( talk about my  contributions ) 14:39, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Where should it be added? M.Bitton (talk) 20:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * OP has suggested adding it to "Jews in jazz" --Comment by Selfie City ( talk about my  contributions ) 20:52, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ By the way,, as long as you have the proper privileges for editing a page, if you see an edit request that you think looks acceptable, please do feel free to make the decision and implement it on your own. In many cases, editors who frequent pages about specialized topics are more likely to have more knowledge about those topics than those of us (like me and ) who watch for and respond to edit requests. As such, they are in a better position to evaluate and implement such changes.


 * (Though, in this specific case, I do have specialized knowledge regarding jazz music.)


 * -- Pinchme123 (talk) 03:29, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for letting me know! I'll keep that in mind in future. --Comment by Selfie City ( talk about my  contributions ) 14:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-Protected Edit Request in Jazz to include a link to Mike Danzi
Cio Fellow Editors: Just another quick suggestion for additional text to be added into the paragraph DIVERSITY IN JAZZ: JAZZ AND RACE after the sentence: The original Dixeland Jazz Band, whose members were white, were the first jazz group to record....
 * One can add the sentence===> '''In New York City, Mike Danzi is credited as being one of several white musicians who contributed to the introduction of the jazz genre into Germany's Weimar Republic during the early 1920s.

I Hope it also proves to be helpful! Ciao 160.72.80.178 (talk) 17:29, 25 November 2023 (UTC)NHPL
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The only source actually provided for this edit is the memoirs of Mike Danzi himself, and thus a primary source. The links are to two annotated bibliographic entries summarizing his memoir, and to a review of the same. The following are excerpts from that review:


 * The reader should be warned that the book ... is vastly underedited: misspellings, misusage, and errors in grammar and punctuation abound.


 * And the book is loaded with "factual" information, recalled by Danzi in miraculous detail without the aid of his correspondence, scrapbooks, and diaries, which he destroyed after his wife's death in 1956. None of Danzi's "facts" can therefore be accepted at face value without corroborative evidence


 * This review specifically cautions against relying solely on Danzi's memoir for factual statements. The review itself says nothing about Danzi as being credited with the process of introducing jazz to Germany's Weimar Republic. So this edit will require reliable (preferably secondary) sources beyond Danzi's memoir for support.


 * -- Pinchme123 (talk) 03:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Ciao Pinchmel123: Many thanks for the expert insights--Quite correct-- several of the references cited above are in fact reviews of Danzi's autobiography. Sorry about that --they seemed relevant. For what it might be worth, it should also be noted, however, that his autobiography has been routinely used "with caution" as a primary source of information by various scholars of Jazz over the years despite the misspellings, errors in grammar and punctuation cited above. (See "Mike Danzi" on JSTOR & Google Books for the use of his book as a reference source in the bibliographies of numerous scholarly articles/books about Jazz in Europe in the early 20th century).  Admittedly, accurate documentation from this period is somewhat problematic, largely due to the attempts by the Nazi regime to suppress the evolution of Jazz, which it characterized as a degenerate art form--a situation which Danzi appears to have encountered quite often while in Germany for an extended period of time prior to World War II. In any case, here are a few more reference citations from additional independent sources which may prove to be relevant and supportive of the suggested additional text. I hope they help. Thanks again for your help and Happy editing.       . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.72.80.178 (talk) 20:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Linking to search results, more generic reviews of books (rather than the book itself?), and instances where Danzi's name is mentioned in print will not help. In my opinion you'll need to provide page-specific references from reliable secondary sources that support the language you've requested be added to this article. That means the pages of specific sources that support the claim that Danzi contributed to introducing jazz to Germany during the time period in question, not just that he performed in Germany. (For me, an exception to the page-specific part of this would be articles or books that are clearly entirely about Danzi introducing jazz to Germany in the '20s.) It would also probably be useful to also see sources that emphasize his race/ethnicity, since the language you've proposed highlights it. --Pinchme123 (talk) 21:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ===>>A very intriguing discussion about a murky period in the history of Jazz as it evolved in Europe. One possible solution to the scarcity of "page specific secondary reference sources" might be to amend the proposed additional text to the following:

In addition, several Anglo-American musicians such as Mike Danzi influenced the development of the Jazz genre in Germany during the early days of the Weimar Republic in the 1920s. The following reference citations from the book Different Drummers: Jazz Culture of Nazi Germany (Publisher Oxford University Press, sorry but a specific page is not available on this ebook) & Phonographic Bulletin (Publisher International Association of Sound Archives, Pg. 49) and the article "The Jazz Experience in Weimar Germany" (Publihser Oxford University Press pp. 145-158) might be helpful in this regard. I hope some of this is helpful Cia!160.72.81.86 (talk) 18:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)GCL


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Page specific refs have not been provided in all instances. Spintendo  23:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected Edit request
Ciao fellow editors; Kindly consider including the following text at the start of the section The Jazz Age following the paragraph In 1924, Louis Armstrong joined the Fletcher Henderson dance band for a year... to include the text:

'''By 1924, one of Armstrong's favorite "Sweet Jazz" Big bands was also formed in Canada by Guy Lombardo. His Royal Canadians Orchestra specialized in performances of "the Sweetest music this side of Heaven" which remained popular with audiences for decades and transcended racial boundaries. Enjoy160.72.81.86 (talk) 21:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)GCL 160.72.81.86 (talk) 21:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)160.72.80.178 (talk) 23:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)NHPL
 * Ciao Fellow editors--in the interests of simplicity, I've amended the proposed text as indicated above and included an additional reference citation for the academic distinction between "Sweet" and "hot" jazz during the 1920s-1930s era and the apparent irrelevance of this arbitrary distinction from the frame of reference enjoyed by leading jazz musicians of the time such as Louis Armstrong and Guy Lombardo.  Enjoy!! 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:55, 3 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per WP:TOOMANYREFS. Spintendo  23:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * O.K.--This seems reasonable so perhaps only two of the numerous references shown above are required to support the proposed text as shown here Any thoughts? Ciao160.72.80.178 (talk) 00:06, 5 January 2024 (UTC)NHPL


 * ✅ Geardona (talk to me?) 17:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2024
In the 5th paragraph of the Bebop section, can we add a wiki link and fix an incorrect chord from that link?

Please edit:
 * "rhythm changes" (I–VI–ii–V)

to become:
 * "rhythm changes" (I-vi-ii-V)

Many thanks! —173.56.111.206 (talk) 01:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ TheWikiCyclone (talk) 21:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick fix. —173.56.111.206 (talk) 00:11, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * no problem :) TheWikiCyclone (talk) 02:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)