Talk:Johann Adam Hiller

Title of article
Is there a reason that the article is named "Johann Hiller" and not "Johann Adam Hiller" and that there is a redirect from "Johann Adam Hiller" to "Johann Hiller"? As far as I know Hiller is known by his full name. (See also the German WP and New Grove) I would like to change the title but wanted to make sure first that I'm not missing anything. Matthias Röder 11:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes I agree. There was a General Johann Hiller so 'Johann Adam Hiller' would be preferable to distinguish the composer. --Kleinzach 12:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Before doing the whole renaming procedure, we could wait a little bit and see what others are thinking. Matthias Röder 12:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, it won't be controversial but we need the help of an admin if a redirect already exists. --Kleinzach 02:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Really? from what I read here, it should be no problem... Matthias Röder 10:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah! You understand this better than I do! Good luck! --Kleinzach 11:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, name is changed. I also changed most of the links that were pointing to Johann Hiller. Matthias Röder 12:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Hiller as a teacher
Right now the article states that Hiller was a teacher "who encouraged a musical education for women." Where does this information come from? New Grove says: "He remained in this position until 1771, and set about raising the standard of the orchestra and providing more varied programmes, principally by introducing vocal music. This brought out very clearly his concern for the training of young musicians: the singers Corona Schröter and Gertrud Elisabeth Schmeling (later Mara) both received his support and became the chief attractions at his concerts. Soon afterwards he founded a song school to put Leipzig singing on a broader basis." This does not suggest that he was primarily interested in educating women, but that his primary aim was to educate young musicians no matter whether male or female. This sentence should be discussed, I think. Matthias Röder 12:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This was added by User:Angusmclellan on 5 February 2007 but not sourced. You could leave a ''citation needed' tag or ask him I suppose. --Kleinzach 12:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Will ask him directly. Matthias Röder 12:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Confused editing
Somehow Hiller's operatic works and theretical writings have been merged under one heading. I am separating them again! -- Kleinzach 01:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)