Talk:Jon Lester

change?
Do we really need to keep changing his article after every start? That whole last paragraph is unimportant to everyone besides Red Sox fans (of which I am a big one)--Thomas.macmillan 14:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Lester's Cancer Diagnosis needs headline

 * I edited the initial entry about Lester's cancer diagnosis due to the fact that it contained innacuracies regarding the events leading up to the diagnosis. I believe that I have the series of events recounted accuratly now. If anyone finds differing dates/information, make the changes and discuss them here. I also moved the topic under its own heading, as it seems to me that it's not directly related to his professional career, so much as his actual performance goes. Also, the subject is sure to be expanded as more information is reported. Change the title of the heading if you can think of something better, "Battle with Lymphoma" leaves a bit to be desired, I know. Billgoode 06:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I have appended this section with notice that Lester's latest CT Scan shows the disease is in remission. The source is HERE. -- Ubergenius 16:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I do believe a sub-header about his Cancer Diagnosis is an improvement in this article. This was one of the 3 or 4 most noteworthy events in his baseball career (Cancer, World Series, overall excellence, A's, Cubs). It certainly warrants a sub header more than each individual season. The first thing I wanted to read was was his cancer treatment, and I had to scan through the article to find it. Jrgilb (talk) 18:07, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think it does, personally, and one of the reasons is that this article is already suffering from over-sectioning. I'm curious to hear input from others, though. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:21, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, it's a year later, and no one has replied to your question. I agree this article is 'over-sectioned.'  Your solution and unilateral edit was to delete the sub-title for Lester's cancer diagnosis and recovery, which is one of the three or four primary 'headlines' of his entire MLB career.  By doing so, you have buried the lede in this story.  I disagree with your approach and believe you should reinstate my previous edit that added the 'cancer' subtitle.  There are several other superior ways to streamline the current over-sectioning.  It is inferior presentation to require readers to dig through the year-by-year headlines to find a couple of buried sentences about Lester's cancer situation.  Rather, this part of his story should jump off the page.  Jrgilb (talk) 02:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Im not sure if I agree with your approach that an individual's cancer diagnosis should "jump off the page". In my judgement, A wiki article is not an expose meant to attract an audience of readers through the use of headlines such as Cancer survivor wins World Series.


 * Aside from that point, the intro paragraph of the article indicates he had cancer. I agree with Muboshgu and do not think Lester's cancer diagnosis and recovery should be listed in a separate section. Cubbie15fan (talk) 16:00, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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No-hitter
Last I checked, there is nothing wrong with summarizing information later in an article in the opening paragraphs. In other words, it makes sense to briefly mention the no-hitter, and elaborate on it further later in the article. Samer (talk) 04:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I personally think that the text about his recent no-hitter should stay where it is. It really doesn't have to be in the lead.-- RyRy5 ( talk  ♠  wikify ) 05:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup. That's the way to go. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 06:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds about right. The major issue seems to be those who think that essentially the entire box score for the game (an exaggeration, I know) belongs in the lead. A mention is certainly legitimate, with the details where they are now. -- Kinu t /c  07:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Should the fact that its Varitick's fouth caught no-hitter be mentioned in the article
I put the mention of Varitek's record in the article because it's been mentioned in numerous articles about the game, and it's not that much of a tangent. (It's not far removed from arguing that Randy Moss' TD record shouldn't be mentioned in the article on Tom Brady.) Samer (talk) 15:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course it's mentioned in numerous articles about the game, and that's exactly why it belongs in the Jason Varitek page. There's no reason to go into tangential discussions about cancer survivers in general, about the weather in Boston, and about Jason Varitek's records. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 15:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

And that's why you need to learn how to spell survivor... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.251.239 (talk) 17:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Planned rewrite
Just as a notice, when I have some time, I'm going to rework the "Career" section to be much more chronological (e.g., putting his lymphoma diagnosis before pitching in the WS, etc.). Samer (talk) 18:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that Tek's 4th caught no-no, a mlb record, should be included on the page. Also Lester does not throw a one-seam fastball because there is no such pitch. He throws a four seamer and a cut fast ball. (Bosoxrule (talk) 20:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

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