Talk:Jonathan Eybeschutz

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Hi there 82.80.46.135

The changes you have made here are somewhat controversial - especially the claim of baptism. Please site sources (other than an allusion to "reliable German manuscripts from that period"). Fintor 07:03, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi there 88.152.129.112

The statements re: Bicur Satan are very explicit - there should be records of such pronouncements. Please cite sources.

Fintor 08:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sabbatean Works
"It is claimed that he also published numerous Shabbatian works anonymously."

Claimed by whom? Please cite a source. --Kotzker 02:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

"It includes also the letters of recommendation which he had received from leading rabbis who came to his defense who were obviously unaware of Eybeschutz's dual life at the time."

Huh? Without any sources, this kind of stuff is nothing but repulsive. I'm removing it, till a source is given. 162.129.251.22 (talk) 20:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Are we ever going to get sources for the Sabbatean stuff? Without them, we should take it out. MikeR613 (talk) 21:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the sources, but at least there are sources now. Are there any online links to this kind of information? I've made a couple of minor changes, mostly grammar, and changed the word "proved" to "claims". Maybe even "claims to prove" would be okay. More is, I think, unjustified, unless someone is prepared to show that this has become the consensus of all scholars in the field. MikeR613 (talk) 16:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * um, just having sources isn't really useful unless you know that the ones you provided are "the consensus of all the scholars in the field." If you know who those scholars are, you should cite their work.  If you don't, you don't know the value of what you cited.

96.255.124.231 (talk) 18:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Modern academic scholarship unanimously agrees that "Va-Avo ha-Yom el ha-Ayyin" is indeed the creation of Rabbi Jonathan Eibeschütz. See:
 * Yehudah Liebes "Sod ha-Emunah ha-Shabbeta'it", Jerusalem 1995, p. 344 n. 85.
 * Moshe Aryeh Perlmuter "Rabbi Yehonatan Aybeshits ve-Yahaso el ha-Shabbeta'ut", Jerusalem 1947, pp. 131-146.
 * Paweł Maciejko "Coitus interruptus in 'And I Came this Day unto the Fountain'", p. xvii [in:] Introduction to: Jonathan Eibeschütz, And I Came this Day unto the Fountain, ואבוא היום אל העין, Critically Edited and Introduced by Paweł Maciejko, With Additional Studies by Noam Lefler, Jonatan Benarroch and Shai Alleson Gerberg, 2014 (Sources and Studies in the Literature of Jewish Mysticism 42), 360 pp., ISBN 1-933379-45-6. 2A02:3035:6E0:3AA:4D98:D5E1:16BD:3A2E (talk) 07:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

luchot edut
This work is available online at http://www.hebrewbooks.org/46743 96.255.124.231 (talk) 18:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Spelling
'Eybeschütz' is the most prevalent form in English-language sources, as one can see with a Google Books search. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:03, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


 * actually Abschutz is how we spell it in English... he's my ancestor 67.83.165.148 (talk) 16:20, 1 October 2023 (UTC)