Talk:Judas Cyriacus

Minor points

 * Well, maybe not so minor. Given the illustration showing Saint Cyriacus of Ancona being gruesomely sawed in half (and taking it with remarkable equanimity, I might add), why is there no mention of this unusual form of martyrdom in the text?


 * Also, the word after in the sentence reading "Among the three accounts about the discovery of the True Cross of the Crucifixion that circulated throughout the Roman Empire in the 4th century, the two most widely repeated both credited Helena, the aged mother of Constantine the Great, who travelled to Jerusalem at some time after the Council of Nicaea (325) and her death (probably in 330) with the discovery." should probably be replaced with between. I doubt even a Woman of Helena's stature traveled much after her death.
 * Igbert (talk) 03:00, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Major confusion of saints
This article mistakenly merged Cyriacus of Jerusalem with Cyriacus of Acona. For example, the article is about Cyriacus of Acona but in the saint infobox it listed Cyriacus of Jerusalem's year of death. Unfortunately, I'm not an expert, so I fixed this and made a seperate article for Cyriacus of Jerusalem, and that is all.Glorthac (talk) 22:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There definitely is confusion in the sources when it comes to Saint Cyriacus. Here is a summary of what I have found on this subject:


 * The Greek Synaxarion has the "Hieromartyr Cyriacus", Bishop of Jerusalem, with a feast day of October 18 (+ca.360-363). The Greek Account while brief, makes no mention of Ancona.
 * (See: " Ὁ Ἅγιος Κυριάκος ὁ Ἱερομάρτυρας. 18 Οκτωβρίου. ΜΕΓΑΣ ΣΥΝΑΞΑΡΙΣΤΗΣ.")


 * Echoing this official Greek account very closely, the 1877 "Dictionary of Christian Biography, Literature, Sects and Doctrines" has this to say, and interestingly enough makes no mention of "Ancona" although it lists numerous different "Cyriacuses":
 * "Commemorated in the Menology of Basil as a man of Jerusalem, who discovered the true cross, and showed it to Helena, and was thereby converted, and became Patriarch of Jerusalem; and was martyred along with his mother by Julian the Apostate, his right hand being first cut off because his writings had made so many converts. He is unknown to history."
 * (Edward Bickersteth Birks (Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge). "CYRIACUS (6)". In: Willian Smith and Henry Wace. A Dictionary of Christian Biography, Literature, Sects and Doctrines. Volume 1: A-D. Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1877. Page 757.)


 * And researcher Katherine I. Rabenstein has this to say about Cyriacus of Ancona, placing his death in 133:
 * "Died c. 133. Saint Cyriacus, patron of Ancona, Italy, is variously and unreliably conjectured to have been: [1] the legendary Jew named Judas Quiriacus, who revealed where the Cross was hidden to Empress Saint Helena. Later he was baptized, consecrated as bishop of Jerusalem, and martyred during the persecutions of Julian the Apostate. [2] Otherwise, he is said to have been the bishop of Ancona who died or was killed during a pilgrimage to the Holy Land, or [3] he is styled as Bishop Judas of Jerusalem, who was killed during a riot there in 133. In other words, we don't really know who he was, but we have a 12th-century illumination of his martyrdom (Benedictines, Coulson, Delaney)."
 * (Katherine I. Rabenstein. May 4 - Cyriacus of Ancona BM (RM). Saint of the Day - St. Patrick Catholic Church, Washington, D.C.)


 * I humbly submit that both this present article "Cyriacus of Ancona" and "Cyriacus of Jerusalem" need some major clarification in this regard. Cheers,
 * ΙΣΧΣΝΙΚΑ-888 (talk) 02:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Christian mythology?
User:Str1977 has methodically gone through articles included in the Category:Christian mythology removing them. This article was one of those removed.Perhaps not in the interests of the non-indoctrinated Wikipedia reader? I have no opinion in this particular case myself. --Wetman 09:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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