Talk:Kadir Mısıroğlu

Again, there’s clearly a problem here
Again, I see plenty of IP addresses addressing the same issue and some people white washing the request for the unbalanced or biased template. Surely all these IP addresses cannot be the same person. Please do not remove content prior to reaching consensus among contributors. And do not assume “trolling” or other bad faith. Everybody is trying to contribute their best here so assume good faith. Wikimicky1 (talk) 10:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

False Citations
I deleted citations which had nothing to do with the statements in the article. How is such a scandal allowed here? 46.31.112.222 (talk) 13:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

"Conspiracy theorist" or not?
There has been an ongoing edit war regarding Kadir Mısıroğlu labeled a "conspiracy theorist". Sources supporting the label were removed 02:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC) by Wikimicky1 with an ES of "Removed invalid references that do not mention or support the statements made in the sentences."
 * Notifying recent editors of article:

Should Kadir Mısıroğlu be labeled "conspiracy theorist"? Thank you for your valuable time. Adakiko (talk) 06:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Citations removed from the article

Other potential sources. Machine-translated trans-title
 * Avlaremoz article


 * Komplohaber [Conspiriacy News] article


 * National Review article. See WP:RSP regarding RS


 * Kadir Mısıroğlu's personal website


 * William Shakespeare's real name was "Sheikh Pir" and Shakespeare was a secret Muslim

Adakiko (talk) 06:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Written in language(s) I do not understand, though on the face of it, Shakespeare, whose name is well established, was not, in my humble opinion a Muslim, and that looks to me like contrived balderdash. Just an opinion. Not a scholar of such. I have no reasonable claim to being able to judge sources beyond calling such a claim a tad suspect.  struck off-the-cuff- remark made pre-coffee and of no value in this dispute .  What is that Turkish? --  Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:03, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm a neutral admin whose only interest was to SP to stop disruption and promote discussion. As such, I have no say in the content. I offer no opinion in the quality of the sources removed, nor any other content dispute. --  Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:08, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * In fact I do not interest Mısıroğlu but I checked now and in my opinion these citations which has been given by are enough for identify him as conspiracy theorist. Note: I am TR-N, so if you need assistance I can help you.  Vincent Vega  mesaj?  08:24, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Also tr-N. This source, which was in the article right after the "Mısıroğlu has been described as a conspiracy theorist" sentence, states "Muhafazakar camiada Kadir Mısıroğlu, Cevat Rıfat Atilhan gibi isimlerden Harun Yahya müstearıyla Adnan Oktar vb. isimlere kadar komplo teorileri kitapları adeta başucu kitapları yapılmıştı", so that is confirmed. The next sentence, about his anti-Kemalism views, is confirmed by a journal (in English, btw). Page 310 says: "By now we are all too familiar with the leftist-socialist, conservative-Islamist, and finally the liberal[6] critics". 6 is a footnote that has a list of "liberal critics". That list, includes Kadir Mısıroğlu. If the link doesn't work for you, The Wikipedia Library provides access to this piece. Note that this is literally the most reliable source in the article, as it's a peer-reviewed journal. This source (which was also already there), also confirms it. The next removed source doesn't confirm jack shit, so its removal is correct. I've found another source that partially states the same. This has been a long-standing issue. I reverted the page to the stable revision (a.k.a what it was before the dispute), and swapped the source due to obvious issues. I've also added sources to his claims mentioned in the lead section. The other changes are nothing but disruption. A final request: please ECP this page. ~Styyx Talk ? 11:28, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Styyx, thank you for your work analysing and restoring these sources. I also believe that page protection is needed here, due to the disruption following its recent expiry. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:21, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Styyx for your hard work here. Would a RfPP be granted? I suspect there is insufficient activity. Perhaps add to one's watch page? Adakiko (talk) 23:49, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There isn't much activity because the page was protected until 30 July. A week without protection and we're already at it again. ~Styyx Talk ? 01:18, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I'd strongly support a permanent page protection, including talk page protection. There is nothing more to add. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 14:57, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Biased, insincere coward is what you are. You can't stand the truth. Plus, Wikipedia is ever changing. You should know better. So that's a bad idea. 46.31.112.213 (talk) 13:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I am feeling thank you. ~Styyx Talk ? 15:14, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello Special:Contributions/786wave. I had a feeling you might be involved, eventually your true colours came through here. Now please stop disrupting the encyclopedia from which you are banned. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:31, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Nice
Who ever wrote this article has gained my respect 203.211.74.121 (talk) 06:55, 17 November 2022 (UTC)