Talk:Kaspar Anton Karl van Beethoven

First name
To call Karl van Beethoven "Kaspar" is just ludicrous. His name was Karl and that's how he called himself and his whole life he signed his name "Carl van Beethoven"!--62.47.128.102 (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


 * This article should be moved to "Carl van Beethoven". To call him "Kaspar" is just nonsensical, when Ludwig referred to him "my beloved brother Carl".--91.113.58.73 (talk) 14:12, 16 November 2013 (UTC)